jdfitz77
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Location: buffalo, NY Joined: 05.21.2007
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There would have to be grounds for such a thing ie breach of contract for that to be the case.
My best friends wife is a contract lawyer for Universal Studios, where she deals with agents of actors on a daily basis. Their contracts are actually very similar in language to athlete contracts (she used to work for an agency, and also worked for EA Sports at one point)
I have asked her things like this before, while signing a contract an athlete does give up certain rights, however no agent, lawyer, or Union, would ever allow a player or actor to sign off on something where they are not allowed to release their own medical history, salary, or length of said contract.
As far as the sullied the teams public image, good luck trying to prove that the Sabres public image was any good to begin with. - Stripes77
He’s really reaching imo |
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Plain and simple, there was no possible benefit to disclosing an injury, and there is no possible benefit to disclosing an injury, unless the sole reason is to force your way out of your current employment situation, which is actually grounds for a potential lawsuit, in my honest opinion.
He disclosed medical information as a tactic to alienate the organization and facilitate a trade. Absolutely, if I were the Pegulas, I would have pursued legal action against the player. Everyone on the planet knows he disclosed his medical information to drive a wedge between him and the organization. He 100% sullied the team's public image, and a defamation lawsuit alone could have been filed. - BeadyEyedDouche
If a team wants to sue a player, the CBA is a massive obstacle.
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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We want 1, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY Joined: 11.04.2010
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I'm not talking about Jack's actions I'm talking about the Buffalo sabers actions which seem to be in question. they pay a medical staff. Either you take their advice or you don't.
Jack was never close to good enough to avoid the advice of your own doctors. How many games do we think he will actually play for Vegas before he suffers his 1st injury? I put the over under at 10. - lacaprup
based on what?
I for one think Eichel will be fine and will be dominant for LV. |
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So is the Red Wings' defence. - Atomic Wedgie
*rim shot* |
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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We want 1, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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is murray in the press box or was he sent down to rochester? |
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lacaprup
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: NY Joined: 07.23.2006
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based on what?
I for one think Eichel will be fine and will be dominant for LV. - ImThatGuy
Based on his injury riddled career and the fact he's playing after a controversial procedure against the advice of a number of doctors. But nothing I guess. |
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Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: The centre of the hockey universe Joined: 07.31.2006
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There would have to be grounds for such a thing ie breach of contract for that to be the case.
My best friends wife is a contract lawyer for Universal Studios, where she deals with agents of actors on a daily basis. Their contracts are actually very similar in language to athlete contracts (she used to work for an agency, and also worked for EA Sports at one point)
I have asked her things like this before, while signing a contract an athlete does give up certain rights, however no agent, lawyer, or Union, would ever allow a player or actor to sign off on something where they are not allowed to release their own medical history, salary, or length of said contract.
As far as the sullied the teams public image, good luck trying to prove that the Sabres public image was any good to begin with. - Stripes77
Except all players are governed by the Collective Bargaining Agreement, which lays out exactly what they can and cannot do.
I'm not a lawyer, I don't read the CBA every night, but I find it extremely unlikely that players are prevented from disclosing their own medical information. That's kind of a basic human right. |
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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We want 1, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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second question is max sharing food and water with cozens in the dog house? |
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is murray in the press box or was he sent down to rochester? - homiedclown
taxi
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ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY Joined: 11.04.2010
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Based on his injury riddled career and the fact he's playing after a controversial procedure against the advice of a number of doctors. But nothing I guess. - lacaprup
and a number of doctors including the current team he plays for said yea that surgery is fine. so... |
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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We want 1, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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taxi - Lunaion
does hayden have pictures of a sabres coach with a sheep? |
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lacaprup
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: NY Joined: 07.23.2006
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and a number of doctors including the current team he plays for said yea that surgery is fine. so... - ImThatGuy
So, then there's his injury riddled career and his now broke neck. Yeah, he a regular Manning for durability. |
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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We want 1, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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and a number of doctors including the current team he plays for said yea that surgery is fine. so... - ImThatGuy
both sides wanted out of the marriage
the surgery just made it public |
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Stripes77
Referee Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY Joined: 07.30.2012
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Except all players are governed by the Collective Bargaining Agreement, which lays out exactly what they can and cannot do.
I'm not a lawyer, I don't read the CBA every night, but I find it extremely unlikely that players are prevented from disclosing their own medical information. That's kind of a basic human right. - Atomic Wedgie
Exactly what I was trying to explain to him, there is no way the CBA would be approved if players weren't allowed to release their medical history, and as a matter of fact players are allowed to get second opinions from doctors of their choosing, it is in the CBA. How would they be able to do that if they weren't allowed to release their own medical history??
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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We want 1, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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So, then there's his injury riddled career and his now broke neck. Yeah, he a regular Manning for durability. - lacaprup
jack had no problems golfing or skating with bruin players in the off season though |
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BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto Joined: 07.01.2016
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First bold: 99% of the people don't understand what that means, medical privacy is only when it comes to a doctor releasing medical information about a patient. HIPPA only pertains to doctors and insurance companies.
Who Is Not Required to Follow These Laws
Many organizations that have health information about you do not have to follow these laws.
Examples of organizations that do not have to follow the Privacy and Security Rules include:
Life insurers
Employers
Workers compensation carriers
Most schools and school districts
Many state agencies like child protective service agencies
Most law enforcement agencies
Many municipal offices
There would have to be grounds for such a thing ie breach of contract for that to be the case.
My best friends wife is a contract lawyer for Universal Studios, where she deals with agents of actors on a daily basis. Their contracts are actually very similar in language to athlete contracts (she used to work for an agency, and also worked for EA Sports at one point)
I have asked her things like this before, while signing a contract an athlete does give up certain rights, however no agent, lawyer, or Union, would ever allow a player or actor to sign off on something where they are not allowed to release their own medical history, salary, or length of said contract.
As far as the sullied the teams public image, good luck trying to prove that the Sabres public image was any good to begin with. - Stripes77
https://www.jacksonwhitel...al-information-employees/
I mean, not according to this:
There are a number of federal laws that protect against the disclosure of employee medical information in the workplace. While the language of each law is slightly different, the consensus is universal—employers are held to strict confidentiality rules when it comes to acquiring and disclosing an employee’s medical information.
Unless a manager, supervisor, or human resources employee has a legitimate need to know, it’s safe to say that an employer that discloses private medical information to other employees is breaking the law. Depending on the situation, the employee in question could file a federal complaint and seek compensation for damages through a civil lawsuit. |
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Stripes77
Referee Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY Joined: 07.30.2012
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and a number of doctors including the current team he plays for said yea that surgery is fine. so... - ImThatGuy
There were a lot more teams siding with the Sabres doctors here.
Eichel will be fine for a while, the entire reason for the debate of which type of surgery is the lack of data about how an artificial disc would hold up for a hockey player.
One big hit and it could be game over, there just isn't enough data in that regard.
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BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto Joined: 07.01.2016
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the fact that we as fans even know what sports players injuries are, is a huge breach of information, if you ask me. - ImThatGuy
Seriously, are we the only ones who see an ethical issue here? |
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Stripes77
Referee Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY Joined: 07.30.2012
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https://www.jacksonwhitelaw.com/az-labor-employment-law/can-employer-disclose-medical-information-employees/
I mean, not according to this: - BeadyEyedDouche
You're reaching, I got that information directly from the HIPPA website
https://www.hhs.gov/hipaa...-for-consumers/index.html
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lulags
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: St Louis Joined: 02.24.2007
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while y'all were arguing hippa, tuch threw a man aside and skinner lasered one home |
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Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: The centre of the hockey universe Joined: 07.31.2006
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Seriously, are we the only ones who see an ethical issue here? - BeadyEyedDouche
The players have agreed to it, as per the CBA, so no ethical issue here for me. |
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SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres |
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Joined: 02.05.2014
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while y'all were arguing hippa, tuch threw a man aside and skinner lasered one home - Michael Pachla
They can't overturn this, can they? |
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