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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jan 17 @ 2:57 PM ET
There would have to be grounds for such a thing ie breach of contract for that to be the case.

My best friends wife is a contract lawyer for Universal Studios, where she deals with agents of actors on a daily basis. Their contracts are actually very similar in language to athlete contracts (she used to work for an agency, and also worked for EA Sports at one point)

I have asked her things like this before, while signing a contract an athlete does give up certain rights, however no agent, lawyer, or Union, would ever allow a player or actor to sign off on something where they are not allowed to release their own medical history, salary, or length of said contract.

As far as the sullied the teams public image, good luck trying to prove that the Sabres public image was any good to begin with.

- Stripes77


He’s really reaching imo
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jan 17 @ 2:57 PM ET

Plain and simple, there was no possible benefit to disclosing an injury, and there is no possible benefit to disclosing an injury, unless the sole reason is to force your way out of your current employment situation, which is actually grounds for a potential lawsuit, in my honest opinion.

He disclosed medical information as a tactic to alienate the organization and facilitate a trade. Absolutely, if I were the Pegulas, I would have pursued legal action against the player. Everyone on the planet knows he disclosed his medical information to drive a wedge between him and the organization. He 100% sullied the team's public image, and a defamation lawsuit alone could have been filed.

- BeadyEyedDouche


If a team wants to sue a player, the CBA is a massive obstacle.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 17 @ 2:58 PM ET
no zip on that shot
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jan 17 @ 2:59 PM ET
I'm not talking about Jack's actions I'm talking about the Buffalo sabers actions which seem to be in question. they pay a medical staff. Either you take their advice or you don't.

Jack was never close to good enough to avoid the advice of your own doctors. How many games do we think he will actually play for Vegas before he suffers his 1st injury? I put the over under at 10.

- lacaprup


based on what?

I for one think Eichel will be fine and will be dominant for LV.
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jan 17 @ 2:59 PM ET
So is the Red Wings' defence.
- Atomic Wedgie

*rim shot*
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 17 @ 3:00 PM ET
is murray in the press box or was he sent down to rochester?
lacaprup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.23.2006

Jan 17 @ 3:01 PM ET
based on what?

I for one think Eichel will be fine and will be dominant for LV.

- ImThatGuy


Based on his injury riddled career and the fact he's playing after a controversial procedure against the advice of a number of doctors. But nothing I guess.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jan 17 @ 3:01 PM ET
There would have to be grounds for such a thing ie breach of contract for that to be the case.

My best friends wife is a contract lawyer for Universal Studios, where she deals with agents of actors on a daily basis. Their contracts are actually very similar in language to athlete contracts (she used to work for an agency, and also worked for EA Sports at one point)

I have asked her things like this before, while signing a contract an athlete does give up certain rights, however no agent, lawyer, or Union, would ever allow a player or actor to sign off on something where they are not allowed to release their own medical history, salary, or length of said contract.

As far as the sullied the teams public image, good luck trying to prove that the Sabres public image was any good to begin with.

- Stripes77

Except all players are governed by the Collective Bargaining Agreement, which lays out exactly what they can and cannot do.

I'm not a lawyer, I don't read the CBA every night, but I find it extremely unlikely that players are prevented from disclosing their own medical information. That's kind of a basic human right.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 17 @ 3:02 PM ET
second question is max sharing food and water with cozens in the dog house?
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jan 17 @ 3:02 PM ET
is murray in the press box or was he sent down to rochester?
- homiedclown


taxi
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jan 17 @ 3:03 PM ET
Based on his injury riddled career and the fact he's playing after a controversial procedure against the advice of a number of doctors. But nothing I guess.
- lacaprup


and a number of doctors including the current team he plays for said yea that surgery is fine. so...
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 17 @ 3:04 PM ET
taxi
- Lunaion

does hayden have pictures of a sabres coach with a sheep?
lacaprup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.23.2006

Jan 17 @ 3:04 PM ET
and a number of doctors including the current team he plays for said yea that surgery is fine. so...
- ImThatGuy


So, then there's his injury riddled career and his now broke neck. Yeah, he a regular Manning for durability.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 17 @ 3:05 PM ET
and a number of doctors including the current team he plays for said yea that surgery is fine. so...
- ImThatGuy

both sides wanted out of the marriage


the surgery just made it public
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jan 17 @ 3:05 PM ET
Except all players are governed by the Collective Bargaining Agreement, which lays out exactly what they can and cannot do.

I'm not a lawyer, I don't read the CBA every night, but I find it extremely unlikely that players are prevented from disclosing their own medical information. That's kind of a basic human right.

- Atomic Wedgie


Exactly what I was trying to explain to him, there is no way the CBA would be approved if players weren't allowed to release their medical history, and as a matter of fact players are allowed to get second opinions from doctors of their choosing, it is in the CBA. How would they be able to do that if they weren't allowed to release their own medical history??


homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 17 @ 3:05 PM ET
So, then there's his injury riddled career and his now broke neck. Yeah, he a regular Manning for durability.
- lacaprup

jack had no problems golfing or skating with bruin players in the off season though
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

Jan 17 @ 3:06 PM ET
First bold: 99% of the people don't understand what that means, medical privacy is only when it comes to a doctor releasing medical information about a patient. HIPPA only pertains to doctors and insurance companies.

Who Is Not Required to Follow These Laws
Many organizations that have health information about you do not have to follow these laws.

Examples of organizations that do not have to follow the Privacy and Security Rules include:

Life insurers
Employers

Workers compensation carriers
Most schools and school districts
Many state agencies like child protective service agencies
Most law enforcement agencies
Many municipal offices

There would have to be grounds for such a thing ie breach of contract for that to be the case.

My best friends wife is a contract lawyer for Universal Studios, where she deals with agents of actors on a daily basis. Their contracts are actually very similar in language to athlete contracts (she used to work for an agency, and also worked for EA Sports at one point)

I have asked her things like this before, while signing a contract an athlete does give up certain rights, however no agent, lawyer, or Union, would ever allow a player or actor to sign off on something where they are not allowed to release their own medical history, salary, or length of said contract.

As far as the sullied the teams public image, good luck trying to prove that the Sabres public image was any good to begin with.

- Stripes77

https://www.jacksonwhitel...al-information-employees/

I mean, not according to this:

There are a number of federal laws that protect against the disclosure of employee medical information in the workplace. While the language of each law is slightly different, the consensus is universal—employers are held to strict confidentiality rules when it comes to acquiring and disclosing an employee’s medical information.

Unless a manager, supervisor, or human resources employee has a legitimate need to know, it’s safe to say that an employer that discloses private medical information to other employees is breaking the law. Depending on the situation, the employee in question could file a federal complaint and seek compensation for damages through a civil lawsuit.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jan 17 @ 3:07 PM ET
and a number of doctors including the current team he plays for said yea that surgery is fine. so...
- ImThatGuy


There were a lot more teams siding with the Sabres doctors here.

Eichel will be fine for a while, the entire reason for the debate of which type of surgery is the lack of data about how an artificial disc would hold up for a hockey player.

One big hit and it could be game over, there just isn't enough data in that regard.
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

Jan 17 @ 3:08 PM ET
the fact that we as fans even know what sports players injuries are, is a huge breach of information, if you ask me.
- ImThatGuy

Seriously, are we the only ones who see an ethical issue here?
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jan 17 @ 3:08 PM ET
https://www.jacksonwhitelaw.com/az-labor-employment-law/can-employer-disclose-medical-information-employees/

I mean, not according to this:

- BeadyEyedDouche



You're reaching, I got that information directly from the HIPPA website

https://www.hhs.gov/hipaa...-for-consumers/index.html
lulags
Buffalo Sabres
Location: St Louis
Joined: 02.24.2007

Jan 17 @ 3:08 PM ET
Tucktallskinners
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jan 17 @ 3:09 PM ET
while y'all were arguing hippa, tuch threw a man aside and skinner lasered one home
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jan 17 @ 3:10 PM ET
Seriously, are we the only ones who see an ethical issue here?
- BeadyEyedDouche

The players have agreed to it, as per the CBA, so no ethical issue here for me.
SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Jan 17 @ 3:10 PM ET
while y'all were arguing hippa, tuch threw a man aside and skinner lasered one home
- Michael Pachla


They can't overturn this, can they?
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

Jan 17 @ 3:10 PM ET
Oh come on
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