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JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Jan 18 @ 12:32 PM ET
Vince Z. Mercogliano
@vzmercogliano
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2m
Gallant says Strome will play tomorrow. #NYR

- jimbro83



Did something happen to Strome? I must have missed it.
picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Jan 18 @ 12:33 PM ET
Problem is though the team is at 24 players and need to send one to the taxi squad. Unless Strome is added to IR, unsure they can put anyone else there.
- airjan23


i just can't imagine Barron, 23 years old, is content to continue toiling away in the AHL. He's proved that he's at the very least paid his dues and is worth a look in the NHL somewhere, if not here. I just don't know what his future is here.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jan 18 @ 12:34 PM ET
i just can't imagine Barron, 23 years old, is content to continue toiling away in the AHL. He's proved that he's at the very least paid his dues and is worth a look in the NHL somewhere, if not here. I just don't know what his future is here.
- picklerick


bit realistically, he's actually only played 41 AHL games overall
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Jan 18 @ 12:35 PM ET
i just can't imagine Barron, 23 years old, is content to continue toiling away in the AHL. He's proved that he's at the very least paid his dues and is worth a look in the NHL somewhere, if not here. I just don't know what his future is here.
- picklerick

Well players like Hunt, Blais, Rooney, McKegg aren't signed to contracts past this season as of now. So there is room for him next year
picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Jan 18 @ 12:37 PM ET
bit realistically, he's actually only played 41 AHL games overall
- jimbro83


He's crushed it in the AHL and his 3 years in college. I don't think he has anything left to prove. The fact that he's already 23 is working against us in terms of him having more patience
picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Jan 18 @ 12:38 PM ET
Well players like Hunt, Blais, Rooney, McKegg aren't signed to contracts past this season as of now. So there is room for him next year
- TPC


if they let rooney walk and commit to him as 4th line center next year, great. but that's a big if
aecliptic
New York Rangers
Location: Stacheville
Joined: 06.17.2010

Jan 18 @ 12:49 PM ET
if they let rooney walk and commit to him as 4th line center next year, great. but that's a big if
- picklerick


Well, no, the ideal situation is we make the trade for Miller, Chytil is included in it. Thus allowing the Rangers to open up a 3C spot for Barron.

However, thats my pipedream, dont know what the organization is thinking.
picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Jan 18 @ 12:50 PM ET
Well, no, the ideal situation is we make the trade for Miller, Chytil is included in it. Thus allowing the Rangers to open up a 3C spot for Barron.

However, thats my pipedream, dont know what the organization is thinking.

- aecliptic


Yea, Chytil is the other obstacle for him. Guess we will see
TommyGTrain
New York Rangers
Location: Part of NJ where its Taylor Ham not pork roll
Joined: 05.19.2017

Jan 18 @ 1:07 PM ET
To answer Jan's question:

Yes to JT Miller ( with retention )
Luke Schenn

For:

2022 Unprotected 1st Round pick
2023 2nd Round Pick
Chytil
Kravstov
Lundkvist
Robertson

Rangers get Miller for 2 playoff runs and upgrades the teams biggest weakness. Rangers only lose one current player from their roster. Also removes the Kravstov distraction from the team. Obtaining Schenn allows Rangers freedom to trade Nemeth now or is at the very least an upgrade over Tinordi should someone get hurt.

Canucks get Chytil to replace Miller in current lineup. They get 2 picks to aid their rebuild and an opportunity to get Kravstov back into the NHL. They get a future 2nd defense pair with upside that will greatly help their rebuild. Most importantly, they don't add much salary cap here.

This is a costly price to pay for the Rangers, but you have to give to get and Canucks retaining allows us to have a signed 2nd line center for NEXT year. WIN/WIN
aecliptic
New York Rangers
Location: Stacheville
Joined: 06.17.2010

Jan 18 @ 1:17 PM ET
To answer Jan's question:

Yes to JT Miller ( with retention )
Luke Schenn

For:

2022 Unprotected 1st Round pick
2023 2nd Round Pick
Chytil
Kravstov
Lundkvist
Robertson

Rangers get Miller for 2 playoff runs and upgrades the teams biggest weakness. Rangers only lose one current player from their roster. Also removes the Kravstov distraction from the team. Obtaining Schenn allows Rangers freedom to trade Nemeth now or is at the very least an upgrade over Tinordi should someone get hurt.

Canucks get Chytil to replace Miller in current lineup. They get 2 picks to aid their rebuild and an opportunity to get Kravstov back into the NHL. They get a future 2nd defense pair with upside that will greatly help their rebuild. Most importantly, they don't add much salary cap here.

This is a costly price to pay for the Rangers, but you have to give to get and Canucks retaining allows us to have a signed 2nd line center for NEXT year. WIN/WIN

- TommyGTrain


Again... we dont have to lose Miller after those 2 years. Its totally possible to retain him.
TheMessiah94
New York Rangers
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.21.2007

Jan 18 @ 1:40 PM ET
To answer Jan's question:

Yes to JT Miller ( with retention )
Luke Schenn

For:

2022 Unprotected 1st Round pick
2023 2nd Round Pick
Chytil
Kravstov
Lundkvist
Robertson

Rangers get Miller for 2 playoff runs and upgrades the teams biggest weakness. Rangers only lose one current player from their roster. Also removes the Kravstov distraction from the team. Obtaining Schenn allows Rangers freedom to trade Nemeth now or is at the very least an upgrade over Tinordi should someone get hurt.

Canucks get Chytil to replace Miller in current lineup. They get 2 picks to aid their rebuild and an opportunity to get Kravstov back into the NHL. They get a future 2nd defense pair with upside that will greatly help their rebuild. Most importantly, they don't add much salary cap here.

This is a costly price to pay for the Rangers, but you have to give to get and Canucks retaining allows us to have a signed 2nd line center for NEXT year. WIN/WIN

- TommyGTrain

Wow, that's a lot!
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jan 18 @ 1:53 PM ET
To answer Jan's question:

Yes to JT Miller ( with retention )
Luke Schenn

For:

2022 Unprotected 1st Round pick
2023 2nd Round Pick
Chytil
Kravstov
Lundkvist
Robertson

Rangers get Miller for 2 playoff runs and upgrades the teams biggest weakness. Rangers only lose one current player from their roster. Also removes the Kravstov distraction from the team. Obtaining Schenn allows Rangers freedom to trade Nemeth now or is at the very least an upgrade over Tinordi should someone get hurt.

Canucks get Chytil to replace Miller in current lineup. They get 2 picks to aid their rebuild and an opportunity to get Kravstov back into the NHL. They get a future 2nd defense pair with upside that will greatly help their rebuild. Most importantly, they don't add much salary cap here.

This is a costly price to pay for the Rangers, but you have to give to get and Canucks retaining allows us to have a signed 2nd line center for NEXT year. WIN/WIN

- TommyGTrain

Seems a bit high, but if VAN is going to retain a good deal of money then it's going to have to cost more. I don't think it's that far off, but two high picks plus 4 players/prospects might be a bit heavy on the Rangers end.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jan 18 @ 2:03 PM ET
if you are into this sort of thing:


Vince Z. Mercogliano
@vzmercogliano
·
13s
NHL just announced that Mika Zibanejad will be one of the last men in for the all-star game. That gives #NYR three players will head to Vegas next month.
Jan Levine
New York Rangers
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jan 18 @ 2:04 PM ET
if you are into this sort of thing:


Vince Z. Mercogliano
@vzmercogliano
·
13s
NHL just announced that Mika Zibanejad will be one of the last men in for the all-star game. That gives #NYR three players will head to Vegas next month.

- jimbro83

Just beat me to it, jimbo..
Zib not attending due to personal reasons, replaced by Jake Guentzel
Jan Levine
New York Rangers
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jan 18 @ 2:05 PM ET
To answer Jan's question:

Yes to JT Miller ( with retention )
Luke Schenn

For:

2022 Unprotected 1st Round pick
2023 2nd Round Pick
Chytil
Kravstov
Lundkvist
Robertson

Rangers get Miller for 2 playoff runs and upgrades the teams biggest weakness. Rangers only lose one current player from their roster. Also removes the Kravstov distraction from the team. Obtaining Schenn allows Rangers freedom to trade Nemeth now or is at the very least an upgrade over Tinordi should someone get hurt.

Canucks get Chytil to replace Miller in current lineup. They get 2 picks to aid their rebuild and an opportunity to get Kravstov back into the NHL. They get a future 2nd defense pair with upside that will greatly help their rebuild. Most importantly, they don't add much salary cap here.

This is a costly price to pay for the Rangers, but you have to give to get and Canucks retaining allows us to have a signed 2nd line center for NEXT year. WIN/WIN

- TommyGTrain

I like miller, but way too much. Schein wont cost much at all. Four assets for miller is an overpayment in my opinion.
irishgerm
New York Rangers
Joined: 12.02.2021

Jan 18 @ 2:06 PM ET
Stats for JT and Ryan Strome almost identical
NYRangers1124
New York Rangers
Location: Hoboken, NJ
Joined: 07.24.2008

Jan 18 @ 2:07 PM ET
if you are into this sort of thing:


Vince Z. Mercogliano
@vzmercogliano
·
13s
NHL just announced that Mika Zibanejad will be one of the last men in for the all-star game. That gives #NYR three players will head to Vegas next month.

- jimbro83

but hes not going for personal reasons. seems a bit odd.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jan 18 @ 2:08 PM ET
Stats for JT and Ryan Strome almost identical
- irishgerm



jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jan 18 @ 2:08 PM ET
but hes not going for personal reasons. seems a bit odd.
- NYRangers1124


oh cool, good
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Jan 18 @ 2:10 PM ET
Stats for JT and Ryan Strome almost identical
- irishgerm



Except they're not. Miller is currently PPG and Strome is 7 points off that pace. He is also significantly better on draws. He's been at or over 53% for 6 of the last 7 years.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jan 18 @ 2:16 PM ET
Except they're not. Miller is currently PPG and Strome is 7 points off that pace. He is also significantly better on draws. He's been at or over 53% for 6 of the last 7 years.
- JRR1285


to me, who cares if they are similar, we need another impact forward here
Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

Jan 18 @ 2:18 PM ET
Wow, that's a lot!
- TheMessiah94



I feel the same.
I don't claim to know their exact worth, but that breaks down to 4 assets for Miller and 2 for Schenn.
I don't see who Schenn is an upgrade over for us. I certainly wouldn't expect he's worth more than a one for one swap of some kind. So, that's perhaps even 5 assets for JT Miller.

Doesn't this seem like overkill, even if they retain?
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Jan 18 @ 2:27 PM ET
3rd for Nam, Nam for Miller. Done
Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

Jan 18 @ 2:29 PM ET
3rd for Nam, Nam for Miller. Done
- nyrangers9479


No way. More like a 1st for Nam and Stinky.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jan 18 @ 2:31 PM ET
looking at Vancouver's cap for next year they don't strike me as a team that would be very interested in retaining
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