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2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jan 18 @ 11:47 AM ET
ON THE ROAD TO 10 LETS GO
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jan 18 @ 11:52 AM ET
Newhook, Avs window is now. They need to give to get.
-Bradster

I like Newhook a lot, I got to watch him some when he played at BC and the WJCs. What do the Ave's need that the Flyers have? Would they give up Newhook to get G and maybe even Provey?
Peter Richards
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Jan 18 @ 11:54 AM ET
I like Newhook a lot, I got to watch him some when he played at BC and the WJCs. What do the Ave's need that the Flyers have? Would they give up Newhook to get G and maybe even Provey?
- jd250


What else would they give. G and provie together should bring more than newhook. But that’s just me.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jan 18 @ 11:55 AM ET
This is a major part of the problem. IMO they need to draft and acquire the most talented players PERIOD. And then find a coach who can adapt a system to those players. Player skill set should dictate what system is played, not the other way around.
- MBFlyerfan

I agree, this team needs to get much higher skilled players. We watch game after game where the Flyers work their ass off to get scoring chances and they can't finish them. They need some pure goal scoring talent on this team, as well as to increase the foot speed of the team.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Jan 18 @ 11:57 AM ET
Where do you see this?
- PLindbergh31


Just shows as PPD on Yahoo Fantasy Hockey. Could probably have to do with the game others are suggesting
Cap437
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 01.30.2017

Jan 18 @ 12:01 PM ET
Can somebody provide insight on Foerster? I know he was injured, but isn't he supposed to be a pure shooter? Perhaps a poor man's Patrick Laine? If not... Could the Flyers trade and sign for a guy like Laine? Someone to build the PP around?
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jan 18 @ 12:10 PM ET
What else would they give. G and provie together should bring more than newhook. But that’s just me.
- Peter Richards

Imagine that you gave up G and Provy for Newhook haha, that would go down as one of the worst trades in history.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Jan 18 @ 12:12 PM ET
Looks like we have bottom 5 potential. NYI and OTT are below us but have 7 games in hand. Hopefully we suck next year. Bedard is the guy we need
Angus4444
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.03.2018

Jan 18 @ 12:12 PM ET
So who has better trade value right now, Ghost or RR ?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 18 @ 12:13 PM ET
Can somebody provide insight on Foerster? I know he was injured, but isn't he supposed to be a pure shooter? Perhaps a poor man's Patrick Laine? If not... Could the Flyers trade and sign for a guy like Laine? Someone to build the PP around?
- Cap437


Please no.
Bendecko
Location: Cave Putorium
Joined: 02.29.2020

Jan 18 @ 12:13 PM ET
Bill, any updates on Allison Ellis? (Asking for all the askers.)

And how many more games until FYandle gets that meaningless record?

EDIT: TY
Bendecko
Location: Cave Putorium
Joined: 02.29.2020

Jan 18 @ 12:13 PM ET
Just shows as PPD on Yahoo Fantasy Hockey. Could probably have to do with the game others are suggesting
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

You should stop Yahooing.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jan 18 @ 12:15 PM ET
Looks like we have bottom 5 potential. NYI and OTT are below us but have 7 games in hand. Hopefully we suck next year. Bedard is the guy we need
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Yes, bedard is the way. Need to be real bad next year too. Terrifying that Fletcher is still in charge tho.
BluehorseShoe64
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2018

Jan 18 @ 12:19 PM ET
One thing about Clarke. He says always put the team first. Well he is full of crap. Otherwise he would step aside and not get involved any longer!!

Curious, what areas of managing the team is Clarke still in charge of ?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 18 @ 12:21 PM ET
One thing about Clarke. He says always put the team first. Well he is full of crap. Otherwise he would step aside and not get involved any longer!!

Curious, what areas of managing the team is Clarke still in charge of ?

- BluehorseShoe64


None but he is still involved.
mikeyo27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2014

Jan 18 @ 12:32 PM ET
Bill,

Any insight as to what discussions are happening at the highest levels of the organization? Are they actually considering wholesale changes at the top? Are they considering throwing in the towel early and selling off. Clearly not even the most optimistic of people could actually believe a playoff run, a deep one at that, is even realistic. And finally, do you have any reason to believe the Flyers will keep Yeo behind the bench until the end of the season or try to get a change of direction early, if that’s even their plan?
bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Jan 18 @ 12:34 PM ET
Looks like we have bottom 5 potential. NYI and OTT are below us but have 7 games in hand. Hopefully we suck next year. Bedard is the guy we need
- xShoot4WarAmpsx


That would be awesome. Coyotes sure look like that are going for him
bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Jan 18 @ 12:37 PM ET
I like Newhook a lot, I got to watch him some when he played at BC and the WJCs. What do the Ave's need that the Flyers have? Would they give up Newhook to get G and maybe even Provey?
- jd250

Probably going to take Hart to get Newhook. G and Provy i wouldnt do. Those 2 should get you a lot more than newhook. Maybe Provy for Newhook, but would need to be more involved for the $$.

Depending on Eichel, if he doesnt come back in time, vegas would be all over G.
bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Jan 18 @ 12:37 PM ET
Please no.
- MJL


agreed, thats a move you make if you are a contender to put you over the top. We might be there in another 5-6 years.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jan 18 @ 12:38 PM ET
Probably going to take Hart to get Newhook. G and Provy i wouldnt do. Those 2 should get you a lot more than newhook. Maybe Provy for Newhook, but would need to be more involved for the $$.

Depending on Eichel, if he doesnt come back in time, vegas would be all over G.

- bradster

You folks have to be smoking something, Hart for Newhook? Is this bizarro world ?
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Jan 18 @ 12:42 PM ET
Can somebody provide insight on Foerster? I know he was injured, but isn't he supposed to be a pure shooter? Perhaps a poor man's Patrick Laine? If not... Could the Flyers trade and sign for a guy like Laine? Someone to build the PP around?
- Cap437


I'd stay far away from Laine.

Re: Foerster, yes, he is an excellent pure shooter. Underrated passer, too. Skating showed improvement; will never be pretty or a speedster but it's something he can work with. Two-way game needed further improvement. Has already had three significant injuries (two to his shoulder) in two pro seasons, so that's a bit of a concern.

When healthy, Foerster fared pretty well in last year's version of the AHL. Struggled out of the gates this year with the league back up to its normal standards -- the entire Phantoms team stumbled out of the gates -- and then was lost for the season before he really had time to show adjustments.




bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Jan 18 @ 12:43 PM ET
You folks have to be smoking something, Hart for Newhook? Is this bizarro world ?
- ClaudeFather


The question was what would it take, not what would we offer. relax
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jan 18 @ 12:44 PM ET
The question was what would it take, not what would we offer. relax
- bradster

Either way it makes no sense, the Flyers would never trade Hart for Newhook. They probably take mcdavid for him too, probably.
FlyerFan3260
Location: MAGA
Joined: 09.28.2020

Jan 18 @ 12:45 PM ET
Bill,

Any insight as to what discussions are happening at the highest levels of the organization? Are they actually considering wholesale changes at the top? Are they considering throwing in the towel early and selling off. Clearly not even the most optimistic of people could actually believe a playoff run, a deep one at that, is even realistic. And finally, do you have any reason to believe the Flyers will keep Yeo behind the bench until the end of the season or try to get a change of direction early, if that’s even their plan?

- mikeyo27


He won’t answer. Gave up his fan card long ago.
bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Jan 18 @ 12:46 PM ET
Either way it makes no sense, the Flyers would never trade Hart for Newhook. They probably take mcdavid for him too, probably.
- ClaudeFather


Maybe G + Frost for Newhook. Avs should know Frost will be good and we are just not using him properly.
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