My take on some Flyers stuff:

Fletcher: has done much more damage than good. Would like to see him gone before he makes another bad move. Get someone who knows how to both evaluate and develop talent

Frost: he’s a young kid who, due to injury, has played all of 80 or so games as a pro over 2 seasons. This season is toast. Put him on a line with 2 skilled players and let’s see what he can do over 40+ games

Couts/Ellis/Hayes: Shut them all down for the rest of the season. If any need surgery, do it asap. Give them ample time to get healthy for 22-23.

Yeo: let him finish the season and move on. Look for a coach who understands how to develop talent and how the game is played in 2022. No more crap retreads!

Giroux: get a list of teams he will go to and let the new GM, not Fletcher, make the best deal possible

Ristolainen: get what you can for him at the deadline and cut your losses.

JVR: retain up to 50% if need be and move him at the draft. Someone will take him.

Farabee.
- Feanor

Lindblom too, if a 5th round pick even makes your roster they’ve exceeded expectations.

Florida
Barkov 26 6+ NHL seasons
Huberdeau 28 9+ NHL seasons
Ekblad 25 7+ NHL seasons
Bobrovsky 33 11+ NHL seasons.

It's the same for the other teams I mentioned.
- MJL

What about Morgan Frost's upside?
How do you think he is being developed?
Were you impressed by his shootout attempt?

My take on some Flyers stuff:

Fletcher: has done much more damage than good. Would like to see him gone before he makes another bad move. Get someone who knows how to both evaluate and develop talent

Frost: he’s a young kid who, due to injury, has played all of 80 or so games as a pro over 2 seasons. This season is toast. Put him on a line with 2 skilled players and let’s see what he can do over 40+ games

Couts/Ellis/Hayes: Shut them all down for the rest of the season. If any need surgery, do it asap. Give them ample time to get healthy for 22-23.

Yeo: let him finish the season and move on. Look for a coach who understands how to develop talent and how the game is played in 2022. No more crap retreads!

Giroux: get a list of teams he will go to and let the new GM, not Fletcher, make the best deal possible

Ristolainen: get what you can for him at the deadline and cut your losses.

JVR: retain up to 50% if need be and move him at the draft. Someone will take him.
- BiggE

I do not want a buyout of JVR, would rather live with the pain. But i am in favor of retaining to trade him....Even paying a portion of his salary next year.

The entire team as a whole hasn't played the right way for a number of seasons now. Mike Yeo has been a constant during that. Yeo should look in the mirror and realize that he and his fired coaching counterparts have failed in getting the team to correct the errors that it constantly makes on the ice. Jake Voracek was not the problem.
- MJL

He wasn't part of the solution.

Farabee.
- Feanor

what has he exceeded?

My take on some Flyers stuff:

Fletcher: has done much more damage than good. Would like to see him gone before he makes another bad move. Get someone who knows how to both evaluate and develop talent

Frost: he’s a young kid who, due to injury, has played all of 80 or so games as a pro over 2 seasons. This season is toast. Put him on a line with 2 skilled players and let’s see what he can do over 40+ games

- BiggE

My take on some Flyers stuff:

Fletcher: has done much more damage than good. Would like to see him gone before he makes another bad move. Get someone who knows how to both evaluate and develop talent

Frost: he’s a young kid who, due to injury, has played all of 80 or so games as a pro over 2 seasons. This season is toast. Put him on a line with 2 skilled players and let’s see what he can do over 40+ games

Couts/Ellis/Hayes: Shut them all down for the rest of the season. If any need surgery, do it asap. Give them ample time to get healthy for 22-23.

Yeo: let him finish the season and move on. Look for a coach who understands how to develop talent and how the game is played in 2022. No more crap retreads!

Giroux: get a list of teams he will go to and let the new GM, not Fletcher, make the best deal possible

Ristolainen: get what you can for him at the deadline and cut your losses.

JVR: retain up to 50% if need be and move him at the draft. Someone will take him.
- BiggE

This is what we should be focusing on in this board, along with some humor..actual plans on what should be done ...not waterboarding our eyes .

Playing any gigs in Fla? Several people I know set up small tours down there for their blues bands..

My take on some Flyers stuff:

Fletcher: has done much more damage than good. Would like to see him gone before he makes another bad move. Get someone who knows how to both evaluate and develop talent

Frost: he’s a young kid who, due to injury, has played all of 80 or so games as a pro over 2 seasons. This season is toast. Put him on a line with 2 skilled players and let’s see what he can do over 40+ games

Couts/Ellis/Hayes: Shut them all down for the rest of the season. If any need surgery, do it asap. Give them ample time to get healthy for 22-23.

Yeo: let him finish the season and move on. Look for a coach who understands how to develop talent and how the game is played in 2022. No more crap retreads!

Giroux: get a list of teams he will go to and let the new GM, not Fletcher, make the best deal possible

Ristolainen: get what you can for him at the deadline and cut your losses.

JVR: retain up to 50% if need be and move him at the draft. Someone will take him.
- BiggE

Agree with Frost. Also have to realize this kid may be a total bust. I know that is blasphemy on some sites despite it being a real possibility.

what has he exceeded?
- hello it's me 2050

Expectations for the 14th overall pick in 2018. He has the 6th most points of any player taken that year and he's only 3 points behind Kotkaniemi who has played 68 more games.

https://www.eliteprospect...raft/nhl-entry-draft/2018

Your putting quotes around statements that you are saying I said?? When exactly did I post these things? Seems to me you are nothing more than a Scumbag! Quote yourself if you want, but don't be a coward and try to put words in other people's mouths!
- jd250

Calm down Francis

what has he exceeded?
- hello it's me 2050

He has exceeded in the fact that he was not ruined by this culture (yet) and went straight to bustville.

He wasn't part of the solution.
- hello it's me 2050

I think almost all of them were part of the problem. Unless you don't think we are under achieving I'm not sure how someone can't see that.

Brierre coached the Phantoms last night.

Florida
Barkov 26 6+ NHL seasons
Huberdeau 28 9+ NHL seasons
Ekblad 25 7+ NHL seasons
Bobrovsky 33 11+ NHL seasons.

It's the same for the other teams I mentioned.
- MJL

So 3 of the 4 most important players in each team are 28 or less? That is pretty much what I meant.

Now look at Pittsburgh, Caps, Bruins and Blues, and you will see the distinction.

Brierre coached the Phantoms last night.
- hello it's me 2050

No he didn't.

Brierre coached the Phantoms last night.
- hello it's me 2050

Weird. Don't they have assistant coaches?

Weird. Don't they have assistant coaches?
- Dkos

They do, and they just got out of Covid protocol and they coached the team.

Expectations for the 14th overall pick in 2018. He has the 6th most points of any player taken that year and he's only 3 points behind Kotkaniemi who has played 68 more games.

https://www.eliteprospect...raft/nhl-entry-draft/2018
- Feanor

I do not view that as exceeding at all. Sounds like he is progressing.

While I also believe that Fletcher needs to be gone, there are many players on the current Wild roster drafted during his tenure there.

Kaprizov
Fiala
Erikson Ek
Brodin
Dumba
Spurgeon
Duhaime
Greenway
Kahkonen (G)

We all hoped better for Ellis but moving forward no more signing or drafting damaged goods, and playing people who need surgery.

No he didn't.
- Feanor

yes he did. he was n the bench coaching

This is what we should be focusing on in this board, along with some humor..actual plans on what should be done ...not waterboarding our eyes .

Playing any gigs in Fla? Several people I know set up small tours down there for their blues bands..
- RajaAmpat

Some peoples jobs are to criticize others posts, and opinions yet rarely offer up any substantial thoughts on how to fix it themselves. Hence the constant arguing. Its easy to criticize, but if you offer thoughts how to fix, then you open yourself up to being criticized.

While I also believe that Fletcher needs to be gone, there are many players on the current Wild roster drafter\d during his tenure there.

Kaprizov
Fiala
Erikson Ek
Brodin
Dumba
Surgeon
Duhaime
Greenway
Kahkonen (G)

We all hoped better for Ellis but moving forward no more signing or drafting damaged goods, and playing people who need surgery.
- RajaAmpat

I am a fan of fletchers drafting compared to the years of drafting before he got here. Also a fan of him wanting to bring in new players because he knew cant keep bringing the same players back and expecting different results. Not sure he knows how best to fix this team though. But id rather him try and fail, than keeping the same group together and failing. Not sure if that's an endorsement or not lol It would not surprise me if he hired a GM, and he just did the prez job. But would that go straight to Flahr?

Some peoples jobs are to criticize others posts, and opinions yet rarely offer up any substantial thoughts on how to fix it themselves. Hence the constant arguing. Its easy to criticize, but if you offer thoughts how to fix, then you open yourself up to being criticized.
- bradster

draft and develop.

I do not view that as exceeding at all. Sounds like he is progressing.
- hello it's me 2050

So you expected the 14th overall pick to be the 5th best player taken from the 2018 draft three and a half years on?