So you can fire a coach and hire an interim coach but you can't fire a GM and hire an interim GM? To be clear, I'm not advocating for firing Fletcher right now but I just disagree with your reasoning why you can't. What justification on earth could you give that Fletcher should be the President of Hockey operations?
- MJL

It could get worse? It seems like Homer, Clarke and Barber are advising Scott. Who knows which one of their old buddies they’re going to dig up next?

I'm just kind of phissing into the wind here, but would anyone be open to trading Hart to Edmonton? They are badly in need of a goalie and they would probably give the Flyers a king's ransom. I mean, at this rate the kid is going to be ruined here anyway. This could really upset the apple cart and this apple cart needs upsetting in the worst way!!
- Phillywhiteout

Better be a kings ransom….but I think when your this bad all options need to be on the table.

So what happens when Ellis comes back from injury and he is the one of the best defenseman in the league again, are you going to back track this statement or double down that the trade was still bad? Are the Flyers missing Myers or Patrick right now?
- jd250

Ellis could very well come back from this injury and play out the contract without missing significant games but I'll believe it when it happens. Even if he does, what it is going to do for the Flyers? Make them a bubble playoff team? Either way it was not a smart move and it took the team in the wrong direction. They should've been rebuilding instead of trying to do a quick fix to win. With the Flyers in the situation they're in, I'd rather have Myers and Patrick.

It could get worse? It seems like Homer, Clarke and Barber are advising Scott. Who knows which one of their old buddies they’re going to dig up next?
- Dkos

If you need to rebuild, why would getting worse be a bad thing?

I'm just kind of phissing into the wind here, but would anyone be open to trading Hart to Edmonton? They are badly in need of a goalie and they would probably give the Flyers a king's ransom. I mean, at this rate the kid is going to be ruined here anyway. This could really upset the apple cart and this apple cart needs upsetting in the worst way!!
- Phillywhiteout

I wouldn't trade Hart. Hart has had a good bounce back season this year and I think you just don't trade a potential franchise goalie. We as Flyers fans know first hand how hard it is to find a good goalie and I really don't want to go back to the days of a goalie carousel.

Ellis could very well come back from this injury and play out the contract without missing significant games but I'll believe it when it happens. Even if he does, what it is going to do for the Flyers? Make them a bubble playoff team? Either way it was not a smart move and it took the team in the wrong direction. They should've been rebuilding instead of trying to do a quick fix to win. With the Flyers in the situation they're in, I'd rather have Myers and Patrick.
- MJL

Oh my Gosh!!! I can't even get my head around this statement ...

Have to agree here. Fletcher has a terrible track record and needs to be shown the door. If Clarke don't like it he can go back to Flin Flon!!
- Phillywhiteout

Clarke has fired people who are his friends, guys he likes and guys he’s played with. He may not necessarily agree with moving on from Fletcher but he would fire him in a heart beat (if it was his call) if he thought it needed to be done. That way Clarke has always been ruthless. If he thought it’s best for the Flyers he’d fire Fletch in a heart beat…and would sleep easy that night.

The justification is President of hockey operations is a nothing job. The real decisions are made by the GM and head coach, and as you can see in my plan I am bringing in 2 outside voices, one from Tampa and the other from Trotz's coaching tree. I think Fletcher is a god guy and is as good as anyone as President, but I want a new voice for GM and head coach. Again, just my opinion.

And I think its a cop out to say I don't like Fletcher so therefore I'm not going to read the rest. I think I have some good ideas in my plan that have some merit.
- jd250

You are incorrect in stating that the President of hockey operations is a nothing job. Make no mistake about it, Gorton is in charge in Montreal not the recent ex agent GM they hired.

It wasn't a cop out. Any plan that starts with promoting Fletcher is not a good one, hence no reason to read further in my opinion.

Clarke has fired people who are his friends, guys he likes and guys he’s played with. He may not necessarily agree with moving on from Fletcher but he would fire him in a heart beat (if it was his call) if he thought it needed to be done. That way Clarke has always been ruthless. If he thought it’s best for the Flyers he’d fire Fletch in a heart beat…and would sleep easy that night.
- landros 2

Yes I agree, Clarke's bleeds orange and black throughout, and his only loyalty is to the Flyers.

Hayes and Joel out for a month. This should help the lotto pick.

You are incorrect in stating that the President of hockey operations is a nothing job. Make no mistake about it, Gorton is in charge in Montreal not the recent ex agent GM they hired.

It wasn't a cop out. Any plan that starts with promoting Fletcher is not a good one, hence no reason to read further in my opinion.
- MJL

I'm not promoting Fletcher, he is already President of hockey operations. I am just taking away the GM role from him.

I honestly think Scott uses the likes of Holmgren and Clarke to make hockey decisions like that. That’s where the Senior advisors roles play a key role. I’m honestly hoping that they move out all the insiders and focus on some young talented exec’s from the outside. The Flyers need a fresh look, a fresh approach. I think they have a decent amount of assets already but need to load up on picks over the next couple of drafts.
- landros 2

I think we’re all on side with this approach. Need an outside look moving forward but don’t chase last years cup either. We have done that a lot.

As much as i joke, the cupboard isn’t completely bare. Hart bee York and perhaps some of the older core players like tk or provy may return to being effective under new coaching. Don’t throw out the baby with the bath water is what I’m saying. Teams will come knocking and we should be cautious on shipping younger players under 25 out.

I’d like us to got back to compiling draft picks. Make some smart hockey trades (I still like the Atkinson trade) and give the younger players chance to succeed. Like frost. Try to do a quick turnaround like the rangers if we get lucky with our lottery pick.

Oh my Gosh!!! I can't even get my head around this statement ...
- jd250

Yea, I know you can't. I know that a team in the Flyers position is always better off with failed prospects with cheap contracts than they are with injury prone high cap hit long term veteran players.

I'm not promoting Fletcher, he is already President of hockey operations. I am just taking away the GM role from him.
- jd250

I'll revise. Any plan that doesn't completely remove Fletcher is not a good plan in my eyes.

I think we’re all on side with this approach. Need an outside look moving forward but don’t chase last years cup either. We have done that a lot.

As much as i joke, the cupboard isn’t completely bare. Hart bee York and perhaps some of the older core players like tk or provy may return to being effective under new coaching. Don’t throw out the baby with the bath water is what I’m saying. Teams will come knocking and we should be cautious on shipping younger players under 25 out.

I’d like us to got back to compiling draft picks. Make some smart hockey trades (I still like the Atkinson trade) and give the younger players chance to succeed. Like frost. Try to do a quick turnaround like the rangers if we get lucky with our lottery pick.
- Hextall271

I agree with this statement, I am not ready to give up on Provey and TK and it would be a mistake to trade them. TK especially has shown me over the past few weeks that he wants to be a Flyer, and I think he will turn it around. I would rather him turning it around here versus on another team.

Yea, I know you can't. I know that a team in the Flyers position is always better off with failed prospects with cheap contracts than they are with injury prone high cap hit long term veteran players.
- MJL

Look what happened to Ellis this year was unfortunate, but no GM could have foreseen this. This franchise has had some awful luck lately, with injuries to their best players and best prospects. We as fans are frustrated, I get it, but its completely unfair to blame Fletcher for all of this bad luck!

Hayes and Joel out for a month. This should help the lotto pick.
- Peter Richards

Let’s hope if they do get lucky in the lottery…and make this pick count this time.

Look what happened to Ellis this year was unfortunate, but no GM could have foreseen this. This franchise has had some awful luck lately, with injuries to their best players and best prospects. We as fans are frustrated, I get it, but its completely unfair to blame Fletcher for all of this bad luck!
- jd250

I disagree. The minute Fletcher knew that Nashville was willing to make that deal and that no other team stepped up and made a better offer, that should've been a huge red flag to Fletcher. I knew it back in the Summer when they made the move and you and I had numerous conversations about it.

So, if you’re Risto, are you interested at all in staying with the Flyers? I sure wouldn’t be.

Let’s hope if they do get lucky in the lottery…and make this pick count this time.
- landros 2

Lol. Over under on how many games Allison lasts?

So, if you’re Risto, are you interested at all in staying with the Flyers? I sure wouldn’t be.
- Dkos

It would surprise me if he signs now. The only thing worse the watching this team would be to be playing for it.

Lol. Over under on how many games Allison lasts?
- Peter Richards

Ya really. It’s a shame because kids energy is off the charts. I enjoy watching him play.

So, if you’re Risto, are you interested at all in staying with the Flyers? I sure wouldn’t be.
- Dkos

No. At this point not at all. When he came here he spoke about not making the playoffs. Imo he will now walk unless we over pay.

Yes he has his flaws. But he also battles in the trenches. We haven’t had that at his level for years.

I wouldn't trade Hart. Hart has had a good bounce back season this year and I think you just don't trade a potential franchise goalie. We as Flyers fans know first hand how hard it is to find a good goalie and I really don't want to go back to the days of a goalie carousel.
- jd250

Hart has been fine this year, but I was listening to the NHL Network on Sirius/XM yesterday and they were talking about how badly they are in need of a stable goalie to move forward. Hart is from that area and I got to thinking. I really wanted Hart to play for team Canada at the Olympics to see how he does in a real pressure situation behind a good team(although I suppose he did that at the world juniors) just to validate that he is indeed a franchise goalie. I'm considering anything at this point, but I was thinking the Oil might throw one hell of a package the Flyers way if they thought they could pry Hart outta here.

No. At this point not at all. When he came here he spoke about not making the playoffs. Imo he will now walk unless we over pay.

Yes he has his flaws. But he also battles in the trenches. We haven’t had that at his level for years.
- Peter Richards

He definitely brings an element the Flyers lack…I was hoping they could get a deal done, but in this situation the assets coming back are more important unless you could get him signed and move another of the top 4…not sure that makes sense though either.