You are right, Im am idiot and you are a (frank)ing wonder.
- Brukie

Because I called you an idiot right? You fcktard keyboard warrior.

Yep, 2 forwards and a defense man or 2, these moves you are proposing will empty the cupboards for sure and isnt a sure fire way to win the Cup.
- Brukie

Forgetting about the cup for a minute. When you say empty the cupboards, what assets are you referring to?

Forgetting about the cup for a minute. When you say empty the cupboards, what assets are you referring to?
- OLDSCHOOL#6

It doesnt matter, loosing 1 player is emptying the cupboards.

Yep, 2 forwards and a defense man or 2, these moves you are proposing will empty the cupboards for sure and isnt a sure fire way to win the Cup.
- Brukie

It’s definitely risky considering in the end a cup is still very unlikely. But that’s the case for almost every team. Luckily the Rangers are entering the phase where we can talk about being buyers again. That’s really exciting to me.

Also, if they do trade away 4,5,6 pieces (hopefully not all for rentals) they still won’t fully empty the cupboards. Schneider and Othmann almost certainly aren’t going anywhere and still plenty left beyond them.

It doesnt matter, loosing 1 player is emptying the cupboards.
- aecliptic

Nothing further your honor.

It’s definitely risky considering in the end a cup is still very unlikely. But that’s the case for almost every team. Luckily the Rangers are entering the phase where we can talk about being buyers again. That’s really exciting to me.

Also, if they do trade away 4,5,6 pieces (hopefully not all for rentals) they still won’t fully empty the cupboards. Schneider and Othmann almost certainly aren’t going anywhere and still plenty left beyond them.
- TC88

It doesnt matter, we cant trade a single prospect even if we dont have space in the lineup to play them. We should never try to become a better team to win a Stanley Cup because its really difficult.

It doesnt matter, we cant trade a single prospect even if we dont have space in the lineup to play them. We should never try to become a better team to win a Stanley Cup because its really difficult.
- aecliptic

Exactly

I mean, I get it in a sense. If they trade a few pieces and still only have a 5-10% chance entering the playoffs, is it worth it for rentals? But with Kreider having a career year, Zib on fire, Panarin, Fox and Shesty I think Drury will be pulling the trigger on multiple moves.

Exactly

I mean, I get it in a sense. If they trade a few pieces and still only have a 5-10% chance entering the playoffs, is it worth it for rentals? But with Kreider having a career year, Zib on fire, Panarin, Fox and Shesty I think Drury will be pulling the trigger on multiple moves.
- TC88

Exactly, so Id rather talk about players who are potentially available, possible trade ideas, areas we need to address and who to address them.

I dont think theres any question about whether or not we will make the playoffs, however how far we go, thats never a given for any team.

It doesnt matter, loosing 1 player is emptying the cupboards.
- aecliptic

Really kill me. You want to Is trade for Smith, Kessel and/or JT Miller And 1 or 2 left handed D and think it's going to cost lost 4 or 5 pieces? How many first round picks do we have?? Chytil and Krava wont cut it. Who else do you think the other teams will want??

Really kill me. You want to Is trade for Smith, Kessel and/or JT Miller And 1 or 2 left handed D and think it's going to cost lost 4 or 5 pieces? How many first round picks do we have?? Chytil and Krava wont cut it. Who else do you think the other teams will want??
- Brukie

I dont want Kessel (and Im certain his value isnt a 1st), and as Ive said Im not sure Smith is really even available. However, Smith's connection with Gallant is important as far as being able to jump right in and knowing what the expectations are. However I wouldnt overpay for his services.

As far as Miller goes, Ive never said anything more on the Miller stuff other than looking at the long-term outlook and reinforcing the fact that there is a (small, yet possible) chance that would could retain him after the 2 years. Making trading for him have a bit more value to the team.

Ive also been adamant about staying away from Giordano and Chiarot because theyre not worth what people are saying it will take to attain their services. I have however been saying I would prefer De Haan, who would be a much cheaper option for the 3rd pair LD.

I have also, numerous times, said that we should under no circumstances get into any bidding wars for anyone.

Really kill me. You want to Is trade for Smith, Kessel and/or JT Miller And 1 or 2 left handed D and think it's going to cost lost 4 or 5 pieces? How many first round picks do we have?? Chytil and Krava wont cut it. Who else do you think the other teams will want??
- Brukie

I think you’re referring to my post. I don’t think Kessel would cost a ton, I certainly wouldn’t trade a 1st or equivalent for him but some team may drive the price up that high. If that’s the case, move on, no big deal.

Smith works because he knows Gallants system and would immediately make the top 6 better. That’s speculative on if Vegas still needs the cap space. He would likely cost 2 solid pieces which I would do. Who knows, maybe they could find a way to resign him.

I never mentioned JT, but if they could pull it off I would like to see it happen where Strome stays.

As far as LD, I said “the may need a change or 2” not necessary 2 trades. Miller has been pretty inconsistent which is why I said 2, but in reality he should probably just move down to 3rd pair with Schneider if another defenseman is brought in. Also wouldn’t mind seeing Jones brought back up but Gallant seems to like Nemeth for the PK.

I think you’re referring to my post. I don’t think Kessel would cost a ton, I certainly wouldn’t trade a 1st or equivalent for him but some team may drive the price up that high. If that’s the case, move on, no big deal.

Smith works because he knows Gallants system and would immediately make the top 6 better. That’s speculative on if Vegas still needs the cap space. He would likely cost 2 solid pieces which I would do. Who knows, maybe they could find a way to resign him.

I never mentioned JT, but if they could pull it off I would like to see it happen where Strome stays.

As far as LD, I said “the may need a change or 2” not necessary 2 trades. Miller has been pretty inconsistent which is why I said 2, but in reality he should probably just move down to 3rd pair with Schneider if another defenseman is brought in. Also wouldn’t mind seeing Jones brought back up but Gallant seems to like Nemeth for the PK.
- TC88

Do you think its wise to move an inconsistent Miller to play with a rookie Schneider?

I think Miller is probably the way to go as we know we will have him for 2 years, but we need that retention.

The other option Id like, as Ive beaten to death before, is a trade for Dylan Strome and Calvin De Haan. It gives us a good, young 3C (with the potential to be a 2C) we can resign and doesnt cause a totally blow things up. De Haan is our LD rental. Then if the team decides they want to pursue the big name rental, they have that option.
- aecliptic

Strome is an RFA with Arb rights. His qualifying offer is a minimum of $3.3 mill. Thats WAY too much and will only hurt us in trying to re-sign his brother. PASS

Do you think its wise to move an inconsistent Miller to play with a rookie Schneider?
- aecliptic

More sheltered minutes. Also two very mobile players who could have fun feeding off each other.

Strome is an RFA with Arb rights. His qualifying offer is a minimum of $3.3 mill. Thats WAY too much and will only hurt us in trying to re-sign his brother. PASS
- TommyGTrain

https://www.capfriendly.c.../armchair-gm/team/2980302

Already ran the math, its not impossible to make work.

More sheltered minutes. Also two very mobile players who could have fun feeding off each other.
- TC88

Jones played with Schneider the whole time in AHL, Id like to see if their chemistry could translate to the NHL.

Jones played with Schneider the whole time in AHL, Id like to see if their chemistry could translate to the NHL.
- aecliptic

That would be cool too. Jones got screwed over being sent down IMO.

Flyers getting blown out by Buffalo for their 11th straight loss lol

https://www.capfriendly.c.../armchair-gm/team/2980302

Already ran the math, its not impossible to make work.
- aecliptic

Your team doesn't include Sammy Blais, who will cost minimum $1.65 mill...

Your team doesn't include Sammy Blais, who will cost minimum $1.65 mill...
- TommyGTrain

Because after an ACL injury, I dont think it would be wise for the team to bring him back for that amount of money.

Because after an ACL injury, I dont think it would be wise for the team to bring him back for that amount of money.
- aecliptic

He is an RFA w/ arbitration rights ( like D Strome ). Do you really think Drury will walk away from his first major trade acquisitiion? Don't think so...

He is an RFA w/ arbitration rights ( like D Strome ). Do you really think Drury will walk away from his first major trade acquisitiion? Don't think so...
- TommyGTrain

Sometimes tough decisions need to be made.

However, going back to the Strome thing, the brief stint that Barron had here was very positive and I have zero reservations about him being the 3C next year. Ive always been a Barron fanboy.

So if next year our 3rd line is LAF or Kreider with Barron & Blais Ive got no problems with that.

Strome is an RFA with Arb rights. His qualifying offer is a minimum of $3.3 mill. Thats WAY too much and will only hurt us in trying to re-sign his brother. PASS
- TommyGTrain

You think $3.3M is "WAY" too much for Strome?
What more does the guy have to do? $3.3M for a 2nd line center is peanuts.

You are right, Im am idiot and you are a (frank)ing wonder.
- Brukie

Settle down, Francis.

You think $3.3M is "WAY" too much for Strome?
What more does the guy have to do? $3.3M for a 2nd line center is peanuts.
- Tonybere

Wrong strome