I doubt anyone in the rest of the league cares who the Flyers have on LTIR. It's not like they are using it to get an advantage in the playoffs.
- Feanor

I only care about the league officials who care.

I only care about the league officials who care.
- MBFlyerfan

it is a non issue really.

Over under set at number 21
- konalover711

Ill take the under.

So all we need is a Cosby..Malkin and Letang...easy fix
- hfc355

time to get drafting 1st overall

the team needs to keep up the hard work
- 2Real

Yes! No losses since Tuesday 🥳😉

Here is that Athletic list so far...

The Ranking

32. Seattle Kraken

31. New York Islanders

30. Tampa Bay Lightning

29. Pittsburgh Penguins

28. Vancouver Canucks

27. Boston Bruins

26. Washington Capitals

25. Chicago Blackhawks

24. St. Louis Blues

23. Florida Panthers

22. Vegas Golden Knights

21. Colorado Avalanche

20. Arizona Coyotes

19. Edmonton Oilers

18. New York Rangers

17. Ottawa Senators

16. Calgary Flames

15. Toronto Maple Leafs

14. San Jose Sharks

THIS! Yandle was a Fletch gamble to replace Ghost at a lower price to take on other contracts....another lost bet
- RajaAmpat

I wouldn't equate the 2. Last year no one wanted Ghost for free basically, Yandle is a placeholder for the year and friend of hayes and few other guys. A veteran leader type, blah blah...Fletcher has made some questionable gambles, but I don't think he was looking at Yandle as a cheaper Ghost. But agree, the move for Yandle in general was a bust.

I wouldn't equate the 2. Last year no one wanted Ghost for free basically, Yandle is a placeholder for the year and friend of hayes and few other guys. A veteran leader type, blah blah...Fletcher has made some questionable gambles, but I don't think he was looking at Yandle as a cheaper Ghost. But agree, the move for Yandle in general was a bust.
- Flyerz74

There is no question that Fletcher was looking at Yandle as a replacement for Gostisbehere as an offensive puck moving PP defenseman. It was a colossal blunder. Now the team is playing a prized prospect on his off side deferring to a player who should be retired.

I wouldn't equate the 2. Last year no one wanted Ghost for free basically, Yandle is a placeholder for the year and friend of hayes and few other guys. A veteran leader type, blah blah...Fletcher has made some questionable gambles, but I don't think he was looking at Yandle as a cheaper Ghost. But agree, the move for Yandle in general was a bust.
- Flyerz74

Yandle was definitely a bad move but Fletch doesn’t make that move if Hexy didn’t leave him in a bad position. It takes awhile to clean up messes. Yes, maybe Hexy doesn’t stink if Holmer didn’t screw up etc etc. chuck trying to plug up holes he was left with

There is no question that Fletcher was looking at Yandle as a replacement for Gostisbehere as an offensive puck moving PP defenseman. It was a colossal blunder. Now the team is playing a prized prospect on his off side deferring to a player who should be retired.
- MJL

Im on record as saying AV had no idea how to use Ghost and I never wanted him traded to begin with.

Leave it at that. I don't want to rehash that whole debacle again.

There is no question that Fletcher was looking at Yandle as a replacement for Gostisbehere as an offensive puck moving PP defenseman. It was a colossal blunder. Now the team is playing a prized prospect on his off side deferring to a player who should be retired.
- MJL

HAHAHAHA. little hyperbole there. its the coach that put him on his offside. replace yandle with ghost and we are still a bottom dweller. Id hardly call it colossal

Im on record as saying AV had no idea how to use Ghost and I never wanted him traded to begin with.

Leave it at that. I don't want to rehash that whole debacle again.
- MBFlyerfan

my man

Im on record as saying AV had no idea how to use Ghost and I never wanted him traded to begin with.

Leave it at that. I don't want to rehash that whole debacle again.
- MBFlyerfan

Im one of the few that liked ghost too. He had a skill set that isnt easy to find. I was very surprised there were no takers. We have to start using the players more to there skill set instead of trying to turn them into something they are not

Im one of the few that liked ghost too. He had a skill set that isnt easy to find. I was very surprised there were no takers. We have to start using the players more to there skill set instead of trying to turn them into something they are not
- bradster

The problem was hexy handcuffed a lot of players & the ability to deploy them by drafting or signing the same type of player. Ghost Pukeheim & Provy all were supposed to be offensive puck moving d man provy w a bit more defensive upside. Frost B TK O’Brien all small forwards w relatively same skill set need to have pieces that fit together not the same players

There is no question that Fletcher was looking at Yandle as a replacement for Gostisbehere as an offensive puck moving PP defenseman. It was a colossal blunder. Now the team is playing a prized prospect on his off side deferring to a player who should be retired.
- MJL

No question to you maybe, but some may disagree. I look at Yandle as this year's Eric Gustaffson. Try and get some offensive output while also risking the defensive shortcomings of a cheap 1 year risk. He signed the same type of player last year when Ghost was here. Neither of them are replacing ghost, and that's even as bad as he was when here.

So all we need is a Cosby..Malkin and Letang...easy fix
- hfc355

Just comparing the actual current roster players to another bottom dweller of another era, without the hope...

No one has still answered the question if they all have the same/similar core type injuries which would lay it flat on the drills AV/Therriecrap had and the medical/training staff. Might as well ask if any of the drills were from Yeo.

Might as well ask if Brassard has the same issue or any other injured player

If I could get the ear of an upper level person ( is Roberts still the Comcast head?)

Profile the players based on their age and who has these issues, do a forensic report on the teams injuries...What the President of Comcast doesn't want to hear...that his hires to manage the hockey ops, the GM and the coach may have negligently caused injuries to their players, along with investing in damaged goods ( Ellis) and overpaying for assets..

At which point Scott blames the ice surfaces not the drills or game action,since there is less attendance, the temperature and humidity are different affecting the hardness of the ice surface and blames it on Covid protocols and Crypto currency or whatever.. the dog ate his homework
- RajaAmpat

What could the coach possibly be doing that would cause these players to have more core injuries? Drills? It's skating. If they get injured by skating it's not the coaches fault. I you're really set on blaming someone I could see maybe blaming the trainers or maybe it's something the players are doing or not doing in the offseason. Maybe it's just an unfortunate coincidence?

No one has still answered the question if they all have the same/similar core type injuries which would lay it flat on the drills AV/Therriecrap had and the medical/training staff. Might as well ask if any of the drills were from Yeo.

Might as well ask if Brassard has the same issue or any other injured player

If I could get the ear of an upper level person ( is Roberts still the Comcast head?)

Profile the players based on their age and who has these issues, do a forensic report on the teams injuries...What the President of Comcast doesn't want to hear...that his hires to manage the hockey ops, the GM and the coach may have negligently caused injuries to their players, along with investing in damaged goods ( Ellis) and overpaying for assets..

At which point Scott blames the ice surfaces not the drills or game action,since there is less attendance, the temperature and humidity are different affecting the hardness of the ice surface and blames it on Covid protocols and Crypto currency or whatever.. the dog ate his homework
- RajaAmpat

When Horses were dying in droves at Santa Anita racetrack, they did a complete analysis of the complete composition of the surface determining it needed to be changed.
Not so many horses suffering catastrophic injuries since.

The ice composition is the issue.
I'm not an ice scientist I stayed at a Holiday inn express.

Im one of the few that liked ghost too. He had a skill set that isnt easy to find. I was very surprised there were no takers. We have to start using the players more to there skill set instead of trying to turn them into something they are not
- bradster

OMG our smooth skating smallish offensive dman had trouble playing physical in his zone in the corners and in front of the net.

I could not agree more. I get it, players need to be able to play in all three zones. But its seems this organization for a long time had this obsession with trying to get players to play away from their skill set.

Maximize the positive part of their skills and try to minimize the damage that can be caused by their shortcomings by putting them in the right situations. Things have started to turn in this aspect with some of the picks they have made lately, but I am tired of these high floor, low ceiling, grinder types they seem to love.

Every pick should be a swing for the fences. Even if they do one thing great. Like skate, shoot, check. Take a chance. No more safe picks. Especially in the lower rounds.


I really hope they don't get Samu (for example) and start playing him on the 4th line because his defense sucks. Saying he needs to play the "right way" when he uses his speed to maybe break out of the zone early to try for a breakaway.....stifling his offense in the process.

Or not using Tyson Foerster as the trigger on the PP because he hasn't "earned his PP time" yet.

Or drop Bobby Brink down the lineup because he doesn't take the body enough.

That kind of poop needs to stop.

No question to you maybe, but some may disagree. I look at Yandle as this year's Eric Gustaffson. Try and get some offensive output while also risking the defensive shortcomings of a cheap 1 year risk. He signed the same type of player last year when Ghost was here. Neither of them are replacing ghost, and that's even as bad as he was when here.
- Flyerz74

He also signed Gustafsson as insurance for Gostisbehere last season. Both moves were an error in judgement by the GM as Gostisbehere was clearly the better player than both. However he had to have cap space to trade for his other disaster in Ristolainen. It all shows a lack of ability to properly assess players and personnel moves.

OMG our smooth skating smallish offensive dman had trouble playing physical in his zone in the corners and in front of the net.

I could not agree more. I get it, players need to be able to play in all three zones. But its seems this organization for a long time had this obsession with trying to get players to play away from their skill set.

Maximize the positive part of their skills and try to minimize the damage that can be caused by their shortcomings by putting them in the right situations. Things have started to turn in this aspect with some of the picks they have made lately, but I am tired of these high floor, low ceiling, grinder types they seem to love.

Every pick should be a swing for the fences. Even if they do one thing great. Like skate, shoot, check. Take a chance. No more safe picks. Especially in the lower rounds.


I really hope they don't get Samu (for example) and start playing him on the 4th line because his defense sucks. Saying he needs to play the "right way" when he uses his speed to maybe break out of the zone early to try for a breakaway.....stifling his offense in the process.

Or not using Tyson Foerster as the trigger on the PP because he hasn't "earned his PP time" yet.

Or drop Bobby Brink down the lineup because he doesn't take the body enough.

That kind of poop needs to stop.
- MBFlyerfan

Yep. Bill may not have intended to be as such but I took his blog today as a polite indictment on the Flyers methods of player development. Has to stop.

Just comparing the actual current roster players to another bottom dweller of another era, without the hope...
- RajaAmpat

Lol

What could the coach possibly be doing that would cause these players to have more core injuries? Drills? It's skating. If they get injured by skating it's not the coaches fault. I you're really set on blaming someone I could see maybe blaming the trainers or maybe it's something the players are doing or not doing in the offseason. Maybe it's just an unfortunate coincidence?
- Dkos

The trainers do not set the drills. The players are all 30 years old and if the injuries are the same type then there is something wrong. Not having their diagnosis leads to the speculation.

I knew someone who was in hockey staff where and when Therrien was a head coach elsewhere and he skated the players to death even on off days .

If Comcast management is not concerned about mishandling close to 20 million in assets causing poor performance they are pulling an ostrich move.

Hiring an expert witness type ortho doc to analyze these injuries is a minute price to pay considering the larger losses.

The trainers do not set the drills. The players are all 30 years old and if the injuries are the same type then there is something wrong. Not having their diagnosis leads to the speculation.

I knew someone who was in hockey staff where and when Therrien was a head coach elsewhere and he skated the players to death even on off days .

If Comcast management is not concerned about mishandling close to 20 million in assets causing poor performance they are pulling an ostrich move.

Hiring an expert witness type ortho doc to analyze these injuries is a minute price to pay considering the larger losses.
- RajaAmpat

lots of speculation there

Has there been any scuttlebutt over the nature of Couturiers injury other than "Upper Body"?

He had that dislocated rib last season and covid this season.

I wonder if either or both have contributed to his current "upper body" issues.

Between him and Ellis' mysterious injuries, so many questions need to be raised.