I do not believe in any way he will give you 5 good years. They aint gonna win squat in the next 5 years.

Define relevant?
- hello it's me 2050

Where the team is a playoff team with an identity. A team that is structured in a way that the can win any game. A team that shows up ever night. I watched a team in recent years start from scratch become relevant right away…so please save the “we need a ten year plan or a complete rebuild” to get there. If they sign the right guys and draft the right guys they can get this turned around a hell of lot quicker then some think. They can’t be scared to trade a way guys that are viewed as “untouchables” if that’s what it takes.

Not really. It's archaic. They possibly delayed improved play and risked a player regressing and losing confidence. They need to change how they develop players and find a better balance.
- MJL

He needs to play with pace, it showed in his last game that this is paying off. He needs more north-south in his game, not saying he can’t use his skill set but he clearly wasn’t playing up to standard.

He needs to play with pace, it showed in his last game that this is paying off. He needs more north-south in his game, not saying he can’t use his skill set but he clearly wasn’t playing up to standard.
- ClaudeFather

He needs to do a lot of things better. That's not been in question. The question is if the Flyers methods are the right ones. If a player like Frost develops, it's in spite of the Flyers archaic methods. It's different for every player and they need stop having a rigid process that doesn't consider what is best for each individual player.

Think they got a better deal. What does Sanheim do for them?

I would have def went after him. Too bad the GM has tunnel vision for RR only.
As yo mentioned before look at Reinhart. Traded for less than
- hello it's me 2050

oh man, getting hung up on the player are ya, maybe that starts the convo then you see what the ask is. Thats usually how a negotiation works.

Chucky needs to be careful in jettisoning the wrong guys out of here with the mess this team has become.
- landros 2

totally agreed. Unless we can get a coach in that uses the players better, i think everyone has room to play better than they are right now. Just have to get it out of them

I. Will be rusty from not playing since Tue,
2) It's a matinee game (probably wearing the bad juju blacks ) and they tend to be even slower to start for these...
D> Team with trouble scoring will be facing Quick (who, like the rest of the Kings, is now well over any jet lag—although the (frank)er probably gets off on early workouts, even though this one won't technically qualify)
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Easy shutout for LA
- Bendecko

Oops! I'm sorry for those who are on the Pain-for-Shane/Tard-for-Bedard Train (for those who aren't, you're welcome then). I guess I should stop making Salami-quality game predictions (unless they entertain you). It didn't help that the game lulled me to sleep before they scored the first goal. I bet had I stayed awake that the outcome would have been different.

Now I'm perfectly willing to continue or stop watching games. It depends on what the highest bidder wants (PM me your Venmo to suss this out).

if i'm over 40 and this team still can't get it together i might lose my mind
- 2Real

Too late

Where the team is a playoff team with an identity. A team that is structured in a way that the can win any game. A team that shows up ever night. I watched a team in recent years start from scratch become relevant right away…so please save the “we need a ten year plan or a complete rebuild” to get there. If they sign the right guys and draft the right guys they can get this turned around a hell of lot quicker then some think. They can’t be scared to trade a way guys that are viewed as “untouchables” if that’s what it takes.
- landros 2

Spot on. As mentioned this team does have a core of good, not great, veteran players still, even with the trade of G, so a combination of good drafting and developing, some smart FA signings and a few hockey trades, this team can be right back in the thick of things. But we have to have realistic expectations. We are not going from what we are now to a cup contender in one off season. The first step is we need to be a team that can seriously contend to make the playoffs. Next step is to be a consistent playoff team and the final step is to be a cup contender. So next year is about making the playoffs first and foremost IMO.

He needs to do a lot of things better. That's not been in question. The question is if the Flyers methods are the right ones. If a player like Frost develops, it's in spite of the Flyers archaic methods. It's different for every player and they need stop having a rigid process that doesn't consider what is best for each individual player.
- MJL

He needs to play with pace, it showed in his last game that this is paying off. He needs more north-south in his game, not saying he can’t use his skill set but he clearly wasn’t playing up to standard.
- ClaudeFather

I think Frost has played better over the past 3 games, but to me it starts with Frost being the best Flyer on the ice when he is out there; right now Frost is not the best player on his AHL line with Mayhew and Willman. However, baby steps are fine steps, and I have noticed Frost skating harder, hitting more, showing off his skill and making some fine plays, e.g. that nice hold up at the LA blue line to hit Risto late down the middle for the first Flyers goal Frost needs to keep building on these types of plays shift by shift. I still however see periods in games where his line is out there and noticeable but he is not.

totally agreed. Unless we can get a coach in that uses the players better, i think everyone has room to play better than they are right now. Just have to get it out of them
- bradster

I like Yeo but some of his moves are questionable to say the least, like continually playing Yandle and York with the 4th line against LA or putting JVR out there in the final minute of the LA game protecting a 1 goal lead. I think Yeo is a good teacher and I have seen improvements with how the team is playing even though they are missing a lot of NHL players, but his in-game decision making is lacking IMO.

He’s not over paid in todays market at all. I think there’s been nights where he’s been their best d man….over all I think they could use him in a more offensive role…he couldn’t make the pp any worse. He’s had success doing it before. If the Flyers can’t get him signed, then I think they will have a weaker d next year because of it. I also think it’s highly probable that he has already indicated that he wants to test FA. It makes no sense for the Flyers to publicly acknowledge that as it would hurt his over all trade value. I would think Fletcher knows full well where he stand today with the player.
- landros 2

This was my read as well when Fletcher answered the question. I mean Fletcher would be a fool if he came out and said we paid a heavy price to obtain Risto but we had no intention of signing him long term. The key words in Fletcher's response was when he said Risto wants to win and its up to him. I think Risto should test the FA market, I mean why not, and if I'm the Flyers, I don't go much above what Risto is making now as my ceiling. I think the Flyers can find a physical defenseman or two in free agency or a hockey trade with say Sanheim going the other way.

Spot on. As mentioned this team does have a core of good, not great, veteran players still, even with the trade of G, so a combination of good drafting and developing, some smart FA signings and a few hockey trades, this team can be right back in the thick of things. But we have to have realistic expectations. We are not going from what we are now to a cup contender in one off season. The first step is we need to be a team that can seriously contend to make the playoffs. Next step is to be a consistent playoff team and the final step is to be a cup contender. So next year is about making the playoffs first and foremost IMO.
- jd250

Buying into the kool aid. The Flyers can improve quickly and be a playoff caliber team. That will satisfy many, which is a problem. Don't be fooled by it.

This was my read as well when Fletcher answered the question. I mean Fletcher would be a fool if he came out and said we paid a heavy price to obtain Risto but we had no intention of signing him long term. The key words in Fletcher's response was when he said Risto wants to win and its up to him. I think Risto should test the FA market, I mean why not, and if I'm the Flyers, I don't go much above what Risto is making now as my ceiling. I think the Flyers can find a physical defenseman or two in free agency or a hockey trade with say Sanheim going the other way.
- jd250

The Flyers shouldn't be looking for physical defenseman. They should be looking at players similar to Sanheim as a player, only better and more consistent.