schenn and tanev, thats hilarous. No.

They want to shed cap. Its the one thing they have said. Anyone north of 5 mil is potential. I sincerly doubt they sell low on Petey. Id imagine a combination of picks, prospects. Maybe an expiring contract they can flip? Or a young guy with upside on a cheaper contract.
- neem55

20 hits last two games, does Tanev have 20 all year yet? Grass is greener group.

I dont know if a player playing the best hockey o his career is on his downside, seems a bit off.
- neem55

Sometimes I wonder about you. He isn't a free agent right now... that's at the end of next season. If you resign him then, he's definitely on the back side of his career at 30+ yo even if he's still good in year 1 or 2 of his long contract. Put the fkn glue bag down.

So you bring in new people that don't want to stay and rinse and repeat. How about fixing the problem so they want to stay.
- VANTEL

Bring in a guy with 4+ years of RFA control. And hopefully we are not only competing, but covid restrictions are gone. You're idea of Miller for next season, and then gone for nothing is stupid. That will only hurt our teams future. Trade him for the best package, or re-sign him July 1st. Do we, as fans, want the team to risk keeping him at the TDL next year because we are in the playoff hunt. Then lose him for nothing and regress the year after he leaves?

Agreed.
I'm also not confident that Horvat re-signs either at this point.
- dbot

I could see him reupping if Rutherford's proxies show Horvat that this team is on the right track.

Bring in a guy with 4+ years of RFA control. And hopefully we are not only competing, but covid restrictions are gone. You're idea of Miller for next season, and then gone for nothing is stupid. That will only hurt our teams future. Trade him for the best package, or re-sign him July 1st. Do we, as fans, want the team to risk keeping him at the TDL next year because we are in the playoff hunt. Then lose him for nothing and regress the year after he leaves?
- Retinalz

Jeezus Christ


If he hasn't signed by TDL next year you move him then. I didn't think that needed to be explained

Also Garland was a 4 plus year RFA signing on a great contract but we want to get rid of him too.

Another complaining Canuck(according to you)
Complaining about someone complaining(that isnt actually complaining)
Meta-Marwood, a whole new way to whine
- neem55

I'll need a full list of Canuck players that I've said are complaining. Then we can move this conversation forward. Also, I am very flattered that you pay such close attention to every one of my posts. Some might consider it weird or obsessive but I think it's cute.

20 hits last two games, does Tanev have 20 all year yet? Grass is greener group.
- VANTEL

There it is.

Sometimes I wonder about you. He isn't a free agent right now... that's at the end of next season. If you resign him then, he's definitely on the back side of his career at 30+ yo even if he's still good in year 1 or 2 of his long contract. Put the fkn glue bag down.

- boonerbuck

I’m a big Miller fan, but yeah if you look at this situation with logic and no emotion, trading him now makes a lot of sense unless the offers are underwhelming and JR/Allvin feel like he could fetch a similar return next year as a pure rental.

There it is.
- K-man25

Vantel likes dmen who can score and lay the body. Which is totally fine. But that will lead to guys like Tanev being underrated and guys like Risto being overrated. But to be fair to Vantel, we all have our biases. When a player we don’t like has a bad game, we rant. When a player we like has a bad game, we look the other way. Just human nature.

Vantel likes dmen who can score and lay the body. Which is totally fine. But that will lead to guys like Tanev being underrated and guys like Risto being overrated. But to be fair to Vantel, we all have our biases. When a player we don’t like has a bad game, we rant. When a player we like has a bad game, we look the other way. Just human nature.
- Nucker101

We had Tanev Edler here . 0 cups.

Vantel likes dmen who can score and lay the body. Which is totally fine. But that will lead to guys like Tanev being underrated and guys like Risto being overrated. But to be fair to Vantel, we all have our biases. When a player we don’t like has a bad game, we rant. When a player we like has a bad game, we look the other way. Just human nature.
- Nucker101

Luke Schenn only has 161 points in 827 career games though. Tanev scores more points than him on average.

Luke Schenn only has 161 points in 827 career games though. Tanev scores more points than him on average.
- NorthNuck

Tanev has 140 in 611 games at 5 x the cost of Schenn. Sign Tanev to a mil a year and I will take him back

We had Tanev Edler here . 0 cups.
- VANTEL

correlation is not causation

Them too. I hope Benning enjoys watching how a proper rebuild is done.
- Marwood

lol we don't have a Crosby/Malkin here to build around so get set for the long haul under the 'guise' of Rutherford. Gonna get funky.

Tanev has 140 in 611 games at 5 x the cost of Schenn. Sign Tanev to a mil a year and I will take him back

- VANTEL

Tanev Career +71
Schenn Career -53

There are reasons he gets paid so much more.

correlation is not causation
- dbot

Seeing we are saying just any thing , yellow is not an apple.

lol we don't have a Crosby/Malkin here to build around so get set for the long haul under the 'guise' of Rutherford. Gonna get funky.
- LordHumungous

I gotta say, not a fan of the funk.

What are you trying to fetch? You want to give up your best players in hopes that you might get effective players?

How about the players that are currently being overpaid by 6.5 mil like Petey? If him Brock and most nights Bo did what they are paid to do we wouldn't be having this conversation.

You want to trade your two most effective players ? Do you know how soft and boring this team will be if those two get moved?

Also Schenn is a Goddamn bargain . Doing exactly what Tanev does with Hughes at a fraction of the cost. The problem is our forwards, they are fun to play against.
- VANTEL

It’s all about what they want to fetch.

How do they want to build the roster?

Giving up the best player now has to fill holes & needs to get to a perennial PO team. Getting younger pieces makes sense given the age of the core group. It comes with saving cap space in the short term. In essence on the surface that looks like a step back. Everything hinges on that working & more than 1 piece in a return makes it a win. More size & speed is one get. Depth is lacking on the roster & especially on the farm it is a huge hole. Prospects are developing abroad & in college. The need for them to impact in the next year or 2 is a big step going forward. Elite prospects are not there.

In the meantime BB is developing a culture & a system that is finding success. It can only achieve so much if all of the core isn’t firing on all cylinders.

A retool is obvious imo & pressure is on to max out returns on trades to restock the system & the depth that is lacking. Picks are ok if 1sts & 2nds but real NHL talent in the top 6 is needed or the kids to make huge gains. Consistency game in game out indicates we have lots if work to do

stop pretending to know. Theyll have a list, see what teams offer. Pretending like you know Garland is more likely to get dealt than JTM or BB is silly talk.
- neem55

just hearing stuff. kinda sure my info is a touch more accurate than yours...

We had Tanev Edler here . 0 cups.
- VANTEL

Also Luke Schenn there and still 0 cups. What’s your point?

Tanev Career +71
Schenn Career -53

There are reasons he gets paid so much more.
- NorthNuck

The plus minus stat


So today that is a good stat and tomorrow it becomes useless again

I gotta say, not a fan of the funk.

- dbot

Funk sounds real good if you play rock and roll instead.

Also Luke Schenn there and still 0 cups. What’s your point?
- K-man25

Exactly .


The difference is we save 3.7 mil to try to fix the real problem .

Jeezus Christ


If he hasn't signed by TDL next year you move him then. I didn't think that needed to be explained

Also Garland was a 4 plus year RFA signing on a great contract but we want to get rid of him too.
- VANTEL

This is where your logic is flawed. If we have a good year next year and are top 3 in the Pacific, or are in a Wild Card spot/a point or two out, do you think they still trade him? Not a chance. Then he walks for nothing. Trading him at this TDL makes more sense for the team. Gives the young asset a chance to amalgamate to the team this year, and be in a better chance to contribute next.

Re-signing is still the best option.

I reaaaaaaallllly hope they don't trade Garland, Boeser is expendable though.

correlation is not causation
- dbot

Some people don't get that here, some people don't even understand what that means.