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manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Feb 2 @ 2:05 PM ET

Szymon Szemberg
@Sz1909_Szemberg
World Juniors in August, as per IIHF President Luc Tardif, via Russian outlet RIA Novosti.
Carol Schram
Joined: 09.27.2013

Feb 2 @ 2:06 PM ET
Speaking of stats, that's what most of the new blog is about.

I've compared some of the numbers from the Green and Boudreau eras — and it's gonna take me a little time to process the fact that Vancouver is now the best defensive team in the league!

https://www.hockeybuzz.co...under-Boudreau/194/115922
Load Management
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Billings Spit, BC
Joined: 09.22.2019

Feb 2 @ 2:07 PM ET
I don't think 7x7 or 8x6 is impossible for his next contract, and he will be worth that cap hits. Probably has 5 good years out of the 6 or 7 he signs for.
- Retinalz


Sure, but those are numbers he takes to play where he wants. I'm guessing he'll want a crack at a Cup while he's in his prime. We're still a ways off from that.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 2 @ 2:08 PM ET
I've never really commented on +/- on here before. I do think when you have a larger sample size it becomes more useful. 600-800 games and you start to see a trend.
- NorthNuck


Dig a little deeper then . He picked up most of those minus points playing on the Leafs years ago and the Arizona Coyotes. The rest of his career he did okay and he did it without a partner like Edler.

Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Feb 2 @ 2:08 PM ET
https://twitter.com/Fan2Abby/status/1488934255165988866?cxt=HHwWhICj0Z_04KkpAAAA

Gezz, it's a good thing defence is learned later.

- manvanfan

Jurmo looked pretty passive there.
Aka brutal lol
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Feb 2 @ 2:08 PM ET
If the make up of this team is not good enough why are you getting rid of your best players ?

This team is so soft and we want to get rid of our two most involved forwards. Well if Miller is moved at least we still have Motte to add some muscle. Oh wait we are moving him too.

- VANTEL


For me it's like this. If the canucks are out of the playoff picture by TDL, you entertain offers for Miller. Only make a trade if you get a home run though. If the offers are not what this team needs...try again at the draft.

If the team is in the playoff picture at the TDL... keep him. If the team collapses and misses the playoffs or pulls a Leaf's and doesn't compete in the first round, pick up the phone at the draft and try and get best deal possible.

If Miller helps carry this team through a couple of rounds... then you have a tough decision to make before his contract is up.

manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Feb 2 @ 2:09 PM ET
https://twitter.com/Hocke...?cxt=HHwWhoCqhd-Gl6UpAAAA

Van could use this type of defender.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 2 @ 2:10 PM ET
Speaking of stats, that's what most of the new blog is about.

I've compared some of the numbers from the Green and Boudreau eras — and it's gonna take me a little time to process the fact that Vancouver is now the best defensive team in the league!

https://www.hockeybuzz.co...under-Boudreau/194/115922

- Carol Schram





but +/-
Load Management
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Billings Spit, BC
Joined: 09.22.2019

Feb 2 @ 2:10 PM ET
You know you just described yourself ? Pot meet Kettle

- VANTEL


Can you guys just stop fighting already? You're gonna ruin the thread again like you did yesterday morning.







Oh wait, that was Lordy.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Feb 2 @ 2:10 PM ET
If the make up of this team is not good enough why are you getting rid of your best players ?

This team is so soft and we want to get rid of our two most involved forwards. Well if Miller is moved at least we still have Motte to add some muscle. Oh wait we are moving him too.

- VANTEL

Good reply 👍

Moving on to next move then. Who for what & why?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 2 @ 2:11 PM ET
For me it's like this. If the canucks are out of the playoff picture by TDL, you entertain offers for Miller. Only make a trade if you get a home run though. If the offers are not what this team needs...try again at the draft.

If the team is in the playoff picture at the TDL... keep him. If the team collapses and misses the playoffs or pulls a Leaf's and doesn't compete in the first round, pick up the phone at the draft and try and get best deal possible.

If Miller helps carry this team through a couple of rounds... then you have a tough decision to make before his contract is up.

- boonerbuck



Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Feb 2 @ 2:11 PM ET
Good reply 👍

Moving on to next move then. Who for what & why?

- Nighthawk

How old will Miller be when this team is regularly in the playoffs again is the question

I get the emotional attachment to JTM but logically you trade him this year or next
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Feb 2 @ 2:13 PM ET
For me it's like this. If the canucks are out of the playoff picture by TDL, you entertain offers for Miller. Only make a trade if you get a home run though. If the offers are not what this team needs...try again at the draft.

If the team is in the playoff picture at the TDL... keep him. If the team collapses and misses the playoffs or pulls a Leaf's and doesn't compete in the first round, pick up the phone at the draft and try and get best deal possible.

If Miller helps carry this team through a couple of rounds... then you have a tough decision to make before his contract is up.

- boonerbuck


Picks/prospects are easier to acquire at TDL vs draft. Teams are all trying to shed cap at the draft to re-sign their guys or sign UFA’s

If anything, I’d like to see JR looking at potentially being a buyer at the draft for 27 and younger players signed to reasonable deals
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Feb 2 @ 2:14 PM ET
I gotta say, not a fan of the funk.

- dbot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6Fpllm1Iy8

Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Feb 2 @ 2:14 PM ET
You know you just described yourself ? Pot meet Kettle

- VANTEL

Of course I did lol

My state of mind on the team has changed. Optimism has eroded. The make up of the roster is not good enough. Other teams are passing us. LAK & Anaheim. Even if we get better other teams are also & at a rate we are not keeping up to. That is why we are where we are.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 2 @ 2:14 PM ET
Picks/prospects are easier to acquire at TDL vs draft. Teams are all trying to shed cap at the draft to re-sign their guys or sign UFA’s
- Nucker101


Your current active GM is not a fan of picks
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Feb 2 @ 2:15 PM ET
Your current active GM is not a fan of picks
- VANTEL


I think we’ve discussed this like 5 times already lol

You know my reply by now

- Pens
- Crosby/Malkin
- wins > future

If he’s trading picks for Toews/Garland/Miller types then sign me up
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Feb 2 @ 2:16 PM ET
Picks/prospects are easier to acquire at TDL vs draft. Teams are all trying to shed cap at the draft to re-sign their guys or sign UFA’s

If anything, I’d like to see JR looking at potentially being a buyer at the draft for 27 and younger players signed to reasonable deals

- Nucker101


I think making the playoffs is pretty important to FA right now. He needs revenue. Playoffs will be the deciding factor.


Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Feb 2 @ 2:18 PM ET
I think making the playoffs is pretty important to FA right now. He needs revenue. Playoffs will be the deciding factor.
- boonerbuck


The simpleton view is “wow they’re only X amount of points out!”

Logically, look at how many teams they have to jump in point percentage. It’s not easy passing that many teams in a league with so many OT games

If they get really hot before the TDL then sure, but I’m not counting on that
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Feb 2 @ 2:24 PM ET
Really? He's being outplayed by Schenn at the moment.
- Load Management

Really? I disagree, Schenn is having a good season offensively, but the rest of his game looks to be lacking in comparison.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Feb 2 @ 2:31 PM ET
The simpleton view is “wow they’re only X amount of points out!”

Logically, look at how many teams they have to jump in point percentage. It’s not easy passing that many teams in a league with so many OT games

If they get really hot before the TDL then sure, but I’m not counting on that

- Nucker101


Soooo... is Rutherford and co a bunch of simpletons? Because they are making the assessment not the fans.
Nuckerwhatever
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 11.12.2016

Feb 2 @ 2:36 PM ET
Explain.
- Marwood

Sure,

It's a love affair, you post and he can't wait to jump in with a snide remark, he is seeking your attention, he wants to be noticed and appreciated by you.

This is a classic case of Histrionic personality disorder, characterized by constant attention-seeking, emotional overreaction, and seductive behavior. People with this condition tend to overdramatize situations, which may impair relationships and lead to depression.

Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Feb 2 @ 2:43 PM ET
Soooo... is Rutherford and co a bunch of simpletons? Because they are making the assessment not the fans.

- boonerbuck


JR has been around the block a few times. I know we’re used to Elmer running the show but JR knows how to use the media to appease people.

“Miller is our best forward”

“Canucks open to re-signing Miller”

This is exactly how you try to get teams to pay up. If they don’t then you look into showing them that you’re serious. Next time they won’t be so eager to call your bluff.

JR also said this team needs to be faster and deeper, I don’t think he’s too attached. His comments are lip service imo
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Feb 4 @ 5:02 PM ET
CoC rule #1 second paragraph

Occasionally a moderator will delete an offending post (and following posts that quote it) without banning. If that happens to you, consider yourself lucky to have avoided the ban and move on without comment.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Feb 6 @ 11:29 AM ET
CoC rule #1 second paragraph

Occasionally a moderator will delete an offending post (and following posts that quote it) without banning. If that happens to you, consider yourself lucky to have avoided the ban and move on without comment.

- Makita

Thx very much ref. As long as the CoC applies to the refs in each thread as well all should be good. Cheers.
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