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Forums :: Blog World :: Carol Schram: Halak starts in Chicago and the Canucks' Conor Garland could be trade bait
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VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 31 @ 7:18 PM ET
All three have been disappointing in some regard. Let's just see what we have longer term with them. Do some rounding out and see where it goes. A full healthy squad under Boudreau for more than 12 games is needed for a full long term assessment IMO.
- LordHumungous


I didn't want to upset the Hughes fans
dilly
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 12.23.2006

Jan 31 @ 7:23 PM ET
The roster construction as it currently stands, as well as the state of the AHL team is absolute hot garbage. Trotting out a 3rd pair defence of some form of Burroughs, Hunt, Poolman and Schenn (who to be fair has been decent) is freaking laughable. Alex Chiasson has played most games. Justin Dowling has gotten minutes. They have 2 absolute boat anchor contracts in defencemen who on a really good team are a 3rd pair (able to play 2nd pair minutes in a pinch). I’m sorry but that’s not okay for an NHL team who has playoff aspirations (beyond squeaking in and becoming cannon fodder for Colorado or Vegas).I know Canuck fans in general tend to overrate their own players but I’m not sure how fans want this team to improve WITHOUT making some bold moves.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jan 31 @ 7:32 PM ET
The roster construction as it currently stands, as well as the state of the AHL team is absolute hot garbage. Trotting out a 3rd pair defence of some form of Burroughs, Hunt, Poolman and Schenn (who to be fair has been decent) is freaking laughable. Alex Chiasson has played most games. Justin Dowling has gotten minutes. They have 2 absolute boat anchor contracts in defencemen who on a really good team are a 3rd pair (able to play 2nd pair minutes in a pinch). I’m sorry but that’s not okay for an NHL team who has playoff aspirations (beyond squeaking in and becoming cannon fodder for Colorado or Vegas).I know Canuck fans in general tend to overrate their own players but I’m not sure how fans want this team to improve WITHOUT making some bold moves.
- dilly

VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jan 31 @ 7:33 PM ET
😆😆😆
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jan 31 @ 7:39 PM ET
The roster construction as it currently stands, as well as the state of the AHL team is absolute hot garbage. Trotting out a 3rd pair defence of some form of Burroughs, Hunt, Poolman and Schenn (who to be fair has been decent) is freaking laughable. Alex Chiasson has played most games. Justin Dowling has gotten minutes. They have 2 absolute boat anchor contracts in defencemen who on a really good team are a 3rd pair (able to play 2nd pair minutes in a pinch). I’m sorry but that’s not okay for an NHL team who has playoff aspirations (beyond squeaking in and becoming cannon fodder for Colorado or Vegas).I know Canuck fans in general tend to overrate their own players but I’m not sure how fans want this team to improve WITHOUT making some bold moves.
- dilly

This is true on some levels, the D is not good. We need some big shake up moves and no cap to do them. Thing about having elite goaltending is that weve got a better chance in playoff series than most teams. The forward group needs to produce. We need more production from D not named Hughes. I would like to see them go for youth and picks, hopefully theyve at least called about Tippett and Chychrun.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jan 31 @ 7:42 PM ET
I didn't want to upset the Hughes fans

- VANTEL

He and Demko have been the best players on the team and have been solid for how much they get paid so not much to get upset about.

If anything the doubters might be in shambles
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jan 31 @ 7:45 PM ET
Projected lines for the #Canucks vs.
@NHLBlackhawks


Richardinson-Miller-Boeser
Pettersson-Horvat-Garland
Motte-Lammikko-Highmore
Höglander-Dowling-Chiasson

OEL-Myers
Hughes-Schenn
Hunt-Juulsen

Halak
----------------------------------------------------

No Podkolzin

- VANTEL


Juulsen❤
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jan 31 @ 7:47 PM ET
I provided context yesterday, if anything context helps Garland’s case. Less cheesy secondary assists at 5v5 than the other forwards on the team, also less minutes per game than the other 5v5 point leaders.

Also not sure how 5v5 scoring is as useless as PDO or the same as +/-, it’s easier to be on the ice for a goal than it is to create a goal.

I’d like to see reasoning for dealing him over other forwards on the team

- Nucker101


Might have to ask Elliote that question. Not the 1st forward on my trade list.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 31 @ 7:47 PM ET
He and Demko have been the best players on the team and have been solid for how much they get paid so not much to get upset about.

If anything the doubters might be in shambles

- Nucker101


He has as many goals as Chris Tanev
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jan 31 @ 7:47 PM ET
Thanks Carol!

Not as inclined to trade Garland. He's a year younger than Bo, so still fits the range of the team. Good cap hit, lots of control on his contract. If some team is going to overpay, then sure – but if it's just to move on from him, I don't see as much value to that.

- NewYorkNuck

Cannot compare a 2C with a winger. RW is a strength or at least depth. Idk if moving on would happen but listen to offers.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jan 31 @ 7:49 PM ET
Agreed. To me trading arguably your best forward at 5v5 right now who’s turning 26 this year doesn’t make much sense, especially given that he’s locked into a solid contract as well.

If they do move him, I have two theories:

1) They’re getting offered poop for Boeser so in their mind Boeser + Garland trade return > Garland + Boeser trade return

2) Garland has quietly asked for a trade. Check out his Twitter “likes”. He’s not big on covid restrictions so I’d imagine he prefers to play down south.

Or they just straight up don’t value him as highly as other teams do

- Nucker101

Garlands age & contract & value would take an offer that makes PA say yes. I don’t believe he’s going.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jan 31 @ 7:50 PM ET
Same. I wonder if some team wants a look at him(Halak), before they commit a pick or a prospect for him?
- Reubenkincade

Was just thinking that lol

He has to waive though.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jan 31 @ 7:50 PM ET
Might have to ask Elliote that question. Not the 1st forward on my trade list.
- Reubenkincade


Friedman is annoying now. Says a lot without saying much, obviously still connected but too much airtime to fill with HNIC, his podcast, his SN blog, his radio appearances.

Seravelli is good

Also wonder if JR uses Dreger as a mouthpiece going back from his days out east

Feel like he knows how to play the media
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jan 31 @ 7:51 PM ET
He has as many goals as Chris Tanev

- VANTEL

That was a good pairing for us
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 31 @ 7:52 PM ET
That was a good pairing for us
- Nucker101


12 mil for 4 goals combined


Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jan 31 @ 7:54 PM ET
Nice hit by Juulsen
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jan 31 @ 7:55 PM ET
I didn't want to upset the Hughes fans

- VANTEL


You talking to me?
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jan 31 @ 7:55 PM ET
12 mil for 4 goals combined



- VANTEL



I think we've also disagreed on how to value dmen going back to the Sedin prime days so I'll just say agree to disagree and leave it at that
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jan 31 @ 7:55 PM ET
You talking to me?
- Reubenkincade

well played
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jan 31 @ 7:55 PM ET
Which team is he? The one named Nuck? Looks like we have a couple dead teams at the bottom.
- NorthNuck

Yup & Rich swept me on a bad week of luck. That really hurt lol
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jan 31 @ 7:56 PM ET
I've already seen Petey take a late hit and get his foot kicked out when he didn't even have the puck. Guy gets abused whether he's scoring or not
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jan 31 @ 7:56 PM ET
Nice hit by Juulsen
- Reubenkincade

textbook open ice hit
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jan 31 @ 7:57 PM ET
If you go to the underlined in the bold portion, nobody (of any importance or authority) has said that they want to trade Garland, you can certainly be open to hearing proposals on all players including Bo, Hughes and Demko, doesn't mean they want to trade them.
- Makita

Hysteria diffused 👍
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jan 31 @ 7:59 PM ET
Sarcasm is not a strength of yours is it?
- VANTEL

Busted

I try to be sincere & whiney instead lol
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jan 31 @ 7:59 PM ET
Chiasson the stud
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