Why would any team who gives up quite a few goals be interested in a defenseman who bleeds scoring chances and goals against?
- MJL

Don’t worry No one wants Sanheim

Giroux is not a HOF at the moment. There is still time for him
- Just5

He’s quickly approaching the 1,000 point mark. While surpassing it is not lock for the HOF, it becomes hard to overlook his candidacy at that point. It seems he’s still got another 4-5 seasons of good production in him and I’d say he’s got better than 50/50 odds of eventually getting in.

He’s quickly approaching the 1,000 point mark. While surpassing it is not lock for the HOF, it becomes hard to overlook his candidacy at that point. It seems he’s still got another 4-5 seasons of good production in him and I’d say he’s got better than 50/50 odds of eventually getting in.
- Sublime55

He’s 34. Another 4-5 years of good production is pretty wishful imo.

Giroux haters in shambles tonight
- Bob Habib

This is hilarious. You think putting up goals and points in a glorified exhibition game means something?

Would have been nice to see some of this offense when it matters, instead of disappearing to the tune of 4 goals in his last 35 playoff games.

Flyers Hall Of Fame, absolutely.

I don't think he will get in to the HHOF. Certainly not on the first try. If he wins The Cup before hanging them up, it would help him a lot.

Love G, hope he wins it all. Today was a good start!
- FloHaake

Agreed, G is not an NHL HOFer, at least he shouldn't be if we want the honor to actually mean something, but G is definitely a Flyers HOFer.

Hey, we're in agreement! Although I tend to separate wrestling eras. Flair and the 4 horseman were the kings of the kayfabe era and style of wrestling. However in terms of pure entertainment, nothing beats the Rock and Stone Cold.
- MJL

Will wonders never cease? The Rock and Stone Cold were great also! I have been watching more WWE again and what jumps out at me is the level of athleticism and risk these wrestlers take now compared to when we were younger, where they just sat in the middle of the ring in a headlock for 20 minutes. Its really good entertainment these days.

Agreed, G is not an NHL HOFer, at least he shouldn't be if the want the honor to actually mean something, but G is definitely a Flyers HOFer.
- jd250

Giroux is a very good player, but he's not going to sniff the Hall of Fame.

This is hilarious. You think putting up goals and points in a glorified exhibition game means something?

Would have been nice to see some of this offense when it matters, instead of disappearing to the tune of 4 goals in his last 35 playoff games.
- PLindbergh31

No such thing as a clutch assist, eh Pavel? Only goals constitute offense, apparently. Especially for playmaking types. Look only at the goal total.

Giroux was very good in the 2010, 2011, 2012 (spectacular, in fact) and 2014 playoffs. He was playing through a hip/groin tear in 2016 and was ineffective in the Caps series. The team wouldn't have gotten anywhere near the playoffs in 2018 but for his 102-point season but apparently that didn't count because he had a so-so series against Pittsburgh. The 2020 playoff run was odd but he played better than his numbers.

In my opinion, Frost is starting to overcome Yeo's coaching. In my opinion Yeo delayed his development and hurt him more than he's helped him. What Yeo has done is archaic in terms of player development and I want that philosophy and Yeo as far away form player development as possible.
- MJL

I really don't understand this take on Yeo. This is how you develop young players in the NHL. This is how Couts developed, and it took him a few seasons, and this is how Joe Thornton developed his rookie season in Boston, playing bottom 6 minutes and learning how to play a 200 foot game. We are talking about 2 months of Frost's NHL development, and he is already centering probably the most consistent line on the Flyers. What he is getting now is the teaching and development he should have been getting last year. I was not high on Frost but I have more hope now seeing him play than I did a month ago, and I think Yeo has had a lot to do with it. When Frost does finally switch with Laughton which may happen this season, he will be ready to succeed.

No such thing as a clutch assist, eh Pavel? Only goals constitute offense, apparently. Especially for playmaking types. Look only at the goal total.

Giroux was very good in the 2010, 2011, 2012 (spectacular, in fact) and 2014 playoffs. He was playing through a hip/groin tear in 2016 and was ineffective in the Caps series. The team wouldn't have gotten anywhere near the playoffs in 2018 but for his 102-point season but apparently that didn't count because he had a so-so series against Pittsburgh. The 2020 playoff run was odd but he played better than his numbers.
- bmeltzer

Looking back the only series he really seemed not him self was the cap’s series. Sometimes guys see what they want to see.

No such thing as a clutch assist, eh Pavel? Only goals constitute offense, apparently. Especially for playmaking types. Look only at the goal total.

Giroux was very good in the 2010, 2011, 2012 (spectacular, in fact) and 2014 playoffs. He was playing through a hip/groin tear in 2016 and was ineffective in the Caps series. The team wouldn't have gotten anywhere near the playoffs in 2018 but for his 102-point season but apparently that didn't count because he had a so-so series against Pittsburgh. The 2020 playoff run was odd but he played better than his numbers.
- bmeltzer

Don't give a rats ass about anything but results. Everything else is an excuse.

Looking back the only series he really seemed not him self was the cap’s series. Sometimes guys see what they want to see.
- landros 2

What I've seen is a decade of garbage with no ending in sight.

He’s quickly approaching the 1,000 point mark. While surpassing it is not lock for the HOF, it becomes hard to overlook his candidacy at that point. It seems he’s still got another 4-5 seasons of good production in him and I’d say he’s got better than 50/50 odds of eventually getting in.
- Sublime55

I think he’s on the edge. If he does go elsewhere hopefully it’s to a contender and he gets to play in some meaning games that definitely could help the odd’s especially if he were to add a cup to his resume.

Does G's performance this weekend help his deadline trade value, or does it make no difference at all? My only hope is G got to talk to the other guys and narrowed down the teams he is willing to go to.

Don’t worry No one wants Sanheim
- Fopa21

Ya Baby!! Dammed Risto haters .... take that!

I think he’s on the edge. If he does go elsewhere hopefully it’s to a contender and he gets to play in some meaning games that definitely could help the odd’s especially if he were to add a cup to his resume.
- landros 2

The old go elsewhere and win a Cup route. Aren't you sick of seeing that? What does that do for you as a Flyers fan?

This is hilarious. You think putting up goals and points in a glorified exhibition game means something?

Would have been nice to see some of this offense when it matters, instead of disappearing to the tune of 4 goals in his last 35 playoff games.
- PLindbergh31

Goes to show how out of touch his loyals are

I really don't understand this take on Yeo. This is how you develop young players in the NHL. This is how Couts developed, and it took him a few seasons, and this is how Joe Thornton developed his rookie season in Boston, playing bottom 6 minutes and learning how to play a 200 foot game. We are talking about 2 months of Frost's NHL development, and he is already centering probably the most consistent line on the Flyers. What he is getting now is the teaching and development he should have been getting last year. I was not high on Frost but I have more hope now seeing him play than I did a month ago, and I think Yeo has had a lot to do with it. When Frost does finally switch with Laughton which may happen this season, he will be ready to succeed.
- jd250

This how Couts developed. Actually, though it was due to need, Couturier's offensive development was stunted by his usage early in his career. It was only when Dave Hakstol was smart enough to put him in better offensive situations, that his point totals ballooned. Making a player earn a opportunity to play in a situation that is best for his development, is archaic. Especially when you're a team that is going nowhere. Make an investment in your young player and put him in the best position to succeed. Rather than making him earn it right out of the bat. Frost got that part of his teaching and development in the AHL. He's a scoring line player. Play him on a scoring line with scoring line player.

What I've seen is a decade of garbage with no ending in sight.
- PLindbergh31

Can’t totally disagree that the last decade hasn’t been very fun to watch. But I don’t blame their best player. If the Flyers has surrounded him with the proper pieces it could have been a different outcome. To me Giroux’s been a great captain. He’s an ultra competitive guy who guys will follow. The problem in my view has been the guys they brought into follow him….not all of them, but in my opinion not enough talent to take advantage of G’s best years, where buy he played at a HOF level.

The old go elsewhere and win a Cup route. Aren't you sick of seeing that? What does that do for you as a Flyers fan?
- PLindbergh31

Depends on the player with me. Some guys I could care less if they won elsewhere. But I do hope G has some success if he leaves Philly, and I do hope they know it’s time to move on from him. Building your team around a 34 year old won’t work.

Lots of Randy Savage stories out there. The real life Randy Savage wasn't much different from the wrestling character.
- MJL

Were you friends with him.

No such thing as a clutch assist, eh Pavel? Only goals constitute offense, apparently. Especially for playmaking types. Look only at the goal total.

Giroux was very good in the 2010, 2011, 2012 (spectacular, in fact) and 2014 playoffs. He was playing through a hip/groin tear in 2016 and was ineffective in the Caps series. The team wouldn't have gotten anywhere near the playoffs in 2018 but for his 102-point season but apparently that didn't count because he had a so-so series against Pittsburgh. The 2020 playoff run was odd but he played better than his numbers.
- bmeltzer

Additionally, regardless of numbers and playoff success, just watching the skills competition and the game, it was evident that these players, young and old, have a lot of respect for the man. I would suggest what we as fans think is not the same as what his colleagues think. NHL players, officials, and commentators like oh just some fringe guys named Messier and Chelios, probably have a better take than we do. We pay a great price in money and time and emotion so we will express our opinion but events like this should temper this. Maybe if G waives his NMC, his value is much higher than some think. If he does get traded, no matter where, I will root for hi to hoist the cup. That’s not to say I won’t hope for him to drop it on Marchands foot, Panarins knee, or Crosby’s head.

Does G's performance this weekend help his deadline trade value, or does it make no difference at all? My only hope is G got to talk to the other guys and narrowed down the teams he is willing to go to.
- jd250

Best case is CC got to talking to some players on legit contending teams and they planted a few seeds to get him to waive.

Goes to show how out of touch his loyals are
- Fopa21

I'm not a Giroux hater. I think he's been a really good player for the Flyers, nor do I hold it against him for not winning under his leadership. He just never had the talent around him to seriously compete for a Cup. He's come up small in the playoffs over the last few times they made it, those are the facts.

Depends on the player with me. Some guys I could care less if they won elsewhere. But I do hope G has some success if he leaves Philly, and I do hope they know it’s time to move on from him. Building your team around a 34 year old won’t work.
- landros 2

Agree with that. I have zero confidence Fletcher will get a "haul" for Giroux as some suggest. I think if he is traded majority will be disappointed/underwhelmed with the return.