https://twitter.com/Jesse...&t=cWAo8wncs3Bdg4vYRarx9Q

I'm going to Vegas for his first game and putting everything on red.
- washedup20

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"sabres and their medical staff look like absolute idiots ngl"

I still cant believe that they wouldn't let him get the surgery.

Posed the sale question to NRD.

As @shmerriman and I speculated on @ColdStovePod, still believe this has to do with the league allowing private equity firms to hold minority shares in teams.

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"sabres and their medical staff look like absolute idiots ngl"

I still cant believe that they wouldn't let him get the surgery.
- ImThatGuy

Surgery was used to keep him off the ice for as long as possible to feed the ego of Terry Two Times.

Eichel didn't want to be here, Terry pouted...Cody Eakin

Surgery was used to keep him off the ice for as long as possible to feed the ego of Terry Two Times.

Eichel didn't want to be here, Terry pouted...Cody Eakin
- washedup20

Dude wanted out. Period. Asked for a trade BEFORE he got hurt.

Dude wanted out. Period. Asked for a trade BEFORE he got hurt.
- Powerslave

No argument here, the surgery debate/delay was beyonf a joke, thats where i believe things go into the grey area

Rivers and Petey touch on this on one of their episodes. It was a while ago so unfortunately I can't reference it. Essentially PK came into that room and the vets weren't very keen on how boisterous he was. Most of these guys are shut up and play and answer the questions you're asked.

That's a mentality that has long ago left the NFL and NBA. Unfortunately the NHL is still stuck in that until you get more guys like PK trying to change the game.
- TheSabresTaco

You mean black guys.

Being dead serious. The NHL is not ready for their personalities. Absolutely are not going to make an African-American anything close to the "face" of their game.

Because the "face" of their game is "white". They are the one major sport (and really the onyl sport I can think of) that has managed to stay a significantly white, upper-middle class sport (we're talking 90% Caucasian employees). And believe me, they are well aware and intend to keep it that way. They make more money off of talking about Willy O Ree and diversity than they do off of actually being diverse.

There's so much gatekeeping in hockey I'm surprised anyone enjoys it at any level anymore. And this is coming from a guy who thinks the NFL is a modern-day plantation system. And manages to still enjoy it.

I am just so sick to death about talking about diversity in America, and America being a melting pot. Yeah no, it's segregated and 75% white. It's all in the same pan but it ain't melting.

The NHL is probably the most old-fashioned, old-school, ruled by the old-guard major sport in the world at this point; The fact that the game is an absolute joy to play and watch when you can follow and understand it is the only reason it's still so popular. Because the league is run by gate-keepers who have allowed systematic abuse, rape and hazing to it's pee-wee and junior players, and it's managed to become a problem from the bottom to the top. They breed their players worse than the NFL does theirs.

The MLB and NBA just sit and wait for good players to come to them. MLB is terrible at marketing it's stars but it's a sport that probably literally could still be successful without any advertising. NBA, well, just let the kids play on the playground, more or less. They are more merit based and individualistic sports - Good players are rewarded. The NFL and NHL for some reason like to psychologically (frank) with their players and keep them in a constant state of PTSD, unless they're Tom Brady because he's clearly been blowing Goodell for two decades.

The NHL also has not accepted black players like the other major sports have. You have a mostly European and Canadian player-base, and those countries are a hell of a lot less diverse than America, so they plain and simple are not used to African-Americans, and let me tell you, having worked with a lot of African-Americans as well as a lot of Africans over the years, they are not even close to being the same people, or having the same culture. African immigrants in European countries and American countries alike have not been able to form their own unique culture within their new societies like African-Americans have.

A bunch of farmer boys and tundra men from Scandinavia and Saskatchewan (wow I actually did type and spell that right in one try) are not used to such a large minority group with such a loud voice, and I am actually suggesting they gate-keep the sport to such a degree as to prevent it from becoming more diverse, on top of it being one of the most expensive sports already.

I know plenty of youth football programs that provide equipment to underprivileged players, likewise for basketball and baseball, albeit those sports are cheaper in that regard. I cannot think of a single youth hockey program that provides equipment to underprivileged players. In fact, I experienced quite a bit of bullying and "go buy your own pads" playing youth hockey. I mean. Teams would literally rather play with an empty net and 6 players than let me suit up in their extra goalie pads because I volunteered to play goalie after BOTH of the goalies decided they wanted to be goal-scorers this season... I mean seriously try getting someone to use their ball in roller hockey or floor hockey, you would think those things are made of diamonds.

It's just not a very welcoming sport. It's the only sport I ever got bullied in for being good at. It's the only sport I ever got bullied in for simply wanting to play it. It's a frat-house culture and after the past decade of Sabres hockey, the sport itself has done nothing to keep me interested.

If it weren't for Ovechkin and a (very) few other stars, I wouldn't even casually follow. It's a horribly marketed, gate-kept sport of men shaking hands and patting each other on the back as the youth children bob for apples in a bathtub full of feces and urine and semen as a coach sodomizes them with a goalie stick. I mean, FFS, the Chicago Blackhawks had a coach literally rape a guy and they REFUSE to talk about it.

Yes that stuff happens.

https://thehockeynews.com...use-and-a-deviant-culture

https://www.tsn.ca/affida...n-junior-hockey-1.1561527

You mean black guys.

Being dead serious. The NHL is not ready for their personalities. Absolutely are not going to make an African-American anything close to the "face" of their game.

Because the "face" of their game is "white". They are the one major sport (and really the onyl sport I can think of) that has managed to stay a significantly white, upper-middle class sport (we're talking 90% Caucasian employees). And believe me, they are well aware and intend to keep it that way. They make more money off of talking about Willy O Ree and diversity than they do off of actually being diverse.

There's so much gatekeeping in hockey I'm surprised anyone enjoys it at any level anymore. And this is coming from a guy who thinks the NFL is a modern-day plantation system. And manages to still enjoy it.

I am just so sick to death about talking about diversity in America, and America being a melting pot. Yeah no, it's segregated and 75% white. It's all in the same pan but it ain't melting.

The NHL is probably the most old-fashioned, old-school, ruled by the old-guard major sport in the world at this point; The fact that the game is an absolute joy to play and watch when you can follow and understand it is the only reason it's still so popular. Because the league is run by gate-keepers who have allowed systematic abuse, rape and hazing to it's pee-wee and junior players, and it's managed to become a problem from the bottom to the top. They breed their players worse than the NFL does theirs.

The MLB and NBA just sit and wait for good players to come to them. MLB is terrible at marketing it's stars but it's a sport that probably literally could still be successful without any advertising. NBA, well, just let the kids play on the playground, more or less. They are more merit based and individualistic sports - Good players are rewarded. The NFL and NHL for some reason like to psychologically (frank) with their players and keep them in a constant state of PTSD, unless they're Tom Brady because he's clearly been blowing Goodell for two decades.

The NHL also has not accepted black players like the other major sports have. You have a mostly European and Canadian player-base, and those countries are a hell of a lot less diverse than America, so they plain and simple are not used to African-Americans, and let me tell you, having worked with a lot of African-Americans as well as a lot of Africans over the years, they are not even close to being the same people, or having the same culture. African immigrants in European countries and American countries alike have not been able to form their own unique culture within their new societies like African-Americans have.

A bunch of farmer boys and tundra men from Scandinavia and Saskatchewan (wow I actually did type and spell that right in one try) are not used to such a large minority group with such a loud voice, and I am actually suggesting they gate-keep the sport to such a degree as to prevent it from becoming more diverse, on top of it being one of the most expensive sports already.

I know plenty of youth football programs that provide equipment to underprivileged players, likewise for basketball and baseball, albeit those sports are cheaper in that regard. I cannot think of a single youth hockey program that provides equipment to underprivileged players. In fact, I experienced quite a bit of bullying and "go buy your own pads" playing youth hockey. I mean. Teams would literally rather play with an empty net and 6 players than let me suit up in their extra goalie pads because I volunteered to play goalie after BOTH of the goalies decided they wanted to be goal-scorers this season... I mean seriously try getting someone to use their ball in roller hockey or floor hockey, you would think those things are made of diamonds.

It's just not a very welcoming sport. It's the only sport I ever got bullied in for being good at. It's the only sport I ever got bullied in for simply wanting to play it. It's a frat-house culture and after the past decade of Sabres hockey, the sport itself has done nothing to keep me interested.

If it weren't for Ovechkin and a (very) few other stars, I wouldn't even casually follow. It's a horribly marketed, gate-kept sport of men shaking hands and patting each other on the back as the youth children bob for apples in a bathtub full of feces and urine and semen as a coach sodomizes them with a goalie stick. I mean, FFS, the Chicago Blackhawks had a coach literally rape a guy and they REFUSE to talk about it.

Yes that stuff happens.

https://thehockeynews.com...use-and-a-deviant-culture

https://www.tsn.ca/affida...n-junior-hockey-1.1561527
- BeadyEyedDouche

I've got to be honest I stopped at Plantation system. Anyone who has ever read Frederick Douglas' autobiography or any actual slave narratives would never compare an NFL player with a slave in any way whatsoever.

I am hungover, lets keep it civil (not saying it is not) I just know it can explode without warning (that's what she said)...

Thanks guys

It's one of the reasons I like hockey

Can't stand loud mouth look at me people
Shut up and do ur job
- Anderdog

There job is to entertain. They aren't fvcking horses. They're real people.

Loud mouths' put people in seats.

Hockey needs to adapt or it will die.

I've got to be honest I stopped at Plantation system. Anyone who has ever read Frederick Douglas' autobiography or any actual slave narratives would never compare an NFL player with a slave in any way whatsoever.
- lacaprup

Interesting

https://www.google.com/se...&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Interesting

https://www.google.com/se...&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
- BeadyEyedDouche

Says the guy who made over 60 million dollars in his career, and frankly wasnt that good.....

Imagine not being good at your job and still making 60 million +

You mean black guys.

Being dead serious. The NHL is not ready for their personalities. Absolutely are not going to make an African-American anything close to the "face" of their game.

Because the "face" of their game is "white". They are the one major sport (and really the onyl sport I can think of) that has managed to stay a significantly white, upper-middle class sport (we're talking 90% Caucasian employees). And believe me, they are well aware and intend to keep it that way. They make more money off of talking about Willy O Ree and diversity than they do off of actually being diverse.

There's so much gatekeeping in hockey I'm surprised anyone enjoys it at any level anymore. And this is coming from a guy who thinks the NFL is a modern-day plantation system. And manages to still enjoy it.

I am just so sick to death about talking about diversity in America, and America being a melting pot. Yeah no, it's segregated and 75% white. It's all in the same pan but it ain't melting.

The NHL is probably the most old-fashioned, old-school, ruled by the old-guard major sport in the world at this point; The fact that the game is an absolute joy to play and watch when you can follow and understand it is the only reason it's still so popular. Because the league is run by gate-keepers who have allowed systematic abuse, rape and hazing to it's pee-wee and junior players, and it's managed to become a problem from the bottom to the top. They breed their players worse than the NFL does theirs.

The MLB and NBA just sit and wait for good players to come to them. MLB is terrible at marketing it's stars but it's a sport that probably literally could still be successful without any advertising. NBA, well, just let the kids play on the playground, more or less. They are more merit based and individualistic sports - Good players are rewarded. The NFL and NHL for some reason like to psychologically (frank) with their players and keep them in a constant state of PTSD, unless they're Tom Brady because he's clearly been blowing Goodell for two decades.

The NHL also has not accepted black players like the other major sports have. You have a mostly European and Canadian player-base, and those countries are a hell of a lot less diverse than America, so they plain and simple are not used to African-Americans, and let me tell you, having worked with a lot of African-Americans as well as a lot of Africans over the years, they are not even close to being the same people, or having the same culture. African immigrants in European countries and American countries alike have not been able to form their own unique culture within their new societies like African-Americans have.

A bunch of farmer boys and tundra men from Scandinavia and Saskatchewan (wow I actually did type and spell that right in one try) are not used to such a large minority group with such a loud voice, and I am actually suggesting they gate-keep the sport to such a degree as to prevent it from becoming more diverse, on top of it being one of the most expensive sports already.

I know plenty of youth football programs that provide equipment to underprivileged players, likewise for basketball and baseball, albeit those sports are cheaper in that regard. I cannot think of a single youth hockey program that provides equipment to underprivileged players. In fact, I experienced quite a bit of bullying and "go buy your own pads" playing youth hockey. I mean. Teams would literally rather play with an empty net and 6 players than let me suit up in their extra goalie pads because I volunteered to play goalie after BOTH of the goalies decided they wanted to be goal-scorers this season... I mean seriously try getting someone to use their ball in roller hockey or floor hockey, you would think those things are made of diamonds.

It's just not a very welcoming sport. It's the only sport I ever got bullied in for being good at. It's the only sport I ever got bullied in for simply wanting to play it. It's a frat-house culture and after the past decade of Sabres hockey, the sport itself has done nothing to keep me interested.

If it weren't for Ovechkin and a (very) few other stars, I wouldn't even casually follow. It's a horribly marketed, gate-kept sport of men shaking hands and patting each other on the back as the youth children bob for apples in a bathtub full of feces and urine and semen as a coach sodomizes them with a goalie stick. I mean, FFS, the Chicago Blackhawks had a coach literally rape a guy and they REFUSE to talk about it.

Yes that stuff happens.

https://thehockeynews.com...use-and-a-deviant-culture

https://www.tsn.ca/affida...n-junior-hockey-1.1561527
- BeadyEyedDouche

I think that's more applicable to the NCAA system but that's a whole different can of worms, and is finally changing (somewhat)

Interesting

https://www.google.com/se...&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
- BeadyEyedDouche

Slaves make good money... Wish I could make millions of dollars slaving around a football

There job is to entertain. They aren't fvcking horses. They're real people.

Loud mouths' put people in seats.

Hockey needs to adapt or it will die.
- DirtyDan

Amen. Even though they always kick our ass, I love going to Bruin games just for the day we beat the crap out of them, and the entire arena laughs at Marchand.

Edit: how much would Buffalo Sabres fan love Brad Marchand if we drafted him?

You mean black guys.

Being dead serious. The NHL is not ready for their personalities. Absolutely are not going to make an African-American anything close to the "face" of their game.

Because the "face" of their game is "white". They are the one major sport (and really the onyl sport I can think of) that has managed to stay a significantly white, upper-middle class sport (we're talking 90% Caucasian employees). And believe me, they are well aware and intend to keep it that way. They make more money off of talking about Willy O Ree and diversity than they do off of actually being diverse.

There's so much gatekeeping in hockey I'm surprised anyone enjoys it at any level anymore. And this is coming from a guy who thinks the NFL is a modern-day plantation system. And manages to still enjoy it.

I am just so sick to death about talking about diversity in America, and America being a melting pot. Yeah no, it's segregated and 75% white. It's all in the same pan but it ain't melting.

The NHL is probably the most old-fashioned, old-school, ruled by the old-guard major sport in the world at this point; The fact that the game is an absolute joy to play and watch when you can follow and understand it is the only reason it's still so popular. Because the league is run by gate-keepers who have allowed systematic abuse, rape and hazing to it's pee-wee and junior players, and it's managed to become a problem from the bottom to the top. They breed their players worse than the NFL does theirs.

The MLB and NBA just sit and wait for good players to come to them. MLB is terrible at marketing it's stars but it's a sport that probably literally could still be successful without any advertising. NBA, well, just let the kids play on the playground, more or less. They are more merit based and individualistic sports - Good players are rewarded. The NFL and NHL for some reason like to psychologically (frank) with their players and keep them in a constant state of PTSD, unless they're Tom Brady because he's clearly been blowing Goodell for two decades.

The NHL also has not accepted black players like the other major sports have. You have a mostly European and Canadian player-base, and those countries are a hell of a lot less diverse than America, so they plain and simple are not used to African-Americans, and let me tell you, having worked with a lot of African-Americans as well as a lot of Africans over the years, they are not even close to being the same people, or having the same culture. African immigrants in European countries and American countries alike have not been able to form their own unique culture within their new societies like African-Americans have.

A bunch of farmer boys and tundra men from Scandinavia and Saskatchewan (wow I actually did type and spell that right in one try) are not used to such a large minority group with such a loud voice, and I am actually suggesting they gate-keep the sport to such a degree as to prevent it from becoming more diverse, on top of it being one of the most expensive sports already.

I know plenty of youth football programs that provide equipment to underprivileged players, likewise for basketball and baseball, albeit those sports are cheaper in that regard. I cannot think of a single youth hockey program that provides equipment to underprivileged players. In fact, I experienced quite a bit of bullying and "go buy your own pads" playing youth hockey. I mean. Teams would literally rather play with an empty net and 6 players than let me suit up in their extra goalie pads because I volunteered to play goalie after BOTH of the goalies decided they wanted to be goal-scorers this season... I mean seriously try getting someone to use their ball in roller hockey or floor hockey, you would think those things are made of diamonds.

It's just not a very welcoming sport. It's the only sport I ever got bullied in for being good at. It's the only sport I ever got bullied in for simply wanting to play it. It's a frat-house culture and after the past decade of Sabres hockey, the sport itself has done nothing to keep me interested.

If it weren't for Ovechkin and a (very) few other stars, I wouldn't even casually follow. It's a horribly marketed, gate-kept sport of men shaking hands and patting each other on the back as the youth children bob for apples in a bathtub full of feces and urine and semen as a coach sodomizes them with a goalie stick. I mean, FFS, the Chicago Blackhawks had a coach literally rape a guy and they REFUSE to talk about it.

Yes that stuff happens.

https://thehockeynews.com...use-and-a-deviant-culture

https://www.tsn.ca/affida...n-junior-hockey-1.1561527
- BeadyEyedDouche

You live in a shoe box if you think America is more diverse than Canada


Along with plenty other garbage you spew in these rants.

Interesting

https://www.google.com/se...&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
- BeadyEyedDouche

Anyone who has ever read Frederick Douglas' autobiography or any actual slave narratives would never compare an NFL player with a slave in any way whatsoever.

do you think Reggie Bush read the piece literature he is referring to?

Amen. Even though they always kick our ass, I love going to Bruin games just for the day we beat the crap out of them, and the entire arena laughs at Marchand.

Edit: how much would Buffalo Sabres fan love Brad Marchand if we drafted him?
- lacaprup

I like Marchand. But he sucks to play against.

My favourite kind of players/athletes/entertainers are the sh!t talkers.

They are far more entertaining than a Mcdavid who only says what he needs to.

do you think Reggie Bush read the piece literature he is referring to?
- SabresFaninIndiana

The link is to a group of Google search results and the only one I clicked on really had nothing to do with Reggie Bush and it was quite laughable to be honest. I stand by my statement.

Says the guy who made over 60 million dollars in his career, and frankly wasnt that good.....

Imagine not being good at your job and still making 60 million +
- ImThatGuy

Does his actual ability negate his opinion?

No.

I didn't compare NFL players to slaves, I compared the NFL to a plantation system. Plantation systems were incredibly complex, socially rigid economic systems that utilized slavery and indentured servitude as it's workforce.

indentured servant:

a person who signs and is bound by indentures to work for another for a specified time especially in return for payment of travel expenses and maintenance

Hmm...

Regardless, Europe was always ahead of us. They abolished slavery but created wage slavery in it's wake. America just took forever to catch on.

The term paycheck-to-paycheck still applies when you make millions of dollars. Society has created a rigid class structure where you have to play the game or they will take everything from you. Anyone who attempts to remove themselves from the industry, be it Hollywood, Music, Sports, is swiftly dealt with. The term "keeping up with the Jones'" comes to mind. Capitalism has created a system much like the food pyramid. The top, the fun stuff, the fatty foods and sugar, the rich elite. Below them, meat and poultry and dairy, white collar and upper-middle class or celebrity and upper-middle class (sports, movies, TV). Then, fruits and veggies. The middle class is fruits, the lower-middle class is veggies and finally at the bottom, your bread and grains, the working-class, the pariah, the lumpenproletariat.

But somehow no matter which part of the pyramid you're on, you are living paycheck to paycheck. We are all euqally poor in our richness. Just don't tell Pegs.

You live in a shoe box if you think America is more diverse than Canada


Along with plenty other garbage you spew in these rants.
- DirtyDan

Um. It is.

Um. It is.
- BeadyEyedDouche

Stastically speaking it is not...

https://www.pewresearch.o...diverse%20than%20the%20US.

do you think Reggie Bush read the piece literature he is referring to?
- SabresFaninIndiana

Does it matter? Multiple players have said it. And those players, having been descended from those plantation systems, probably have a bigger voice in it than we do. Just saying.

Hank pointed out, more NCAA than NFL but it's all a part of the same system. Pee-wee, youth, grade school, NCAA and up, these players are bred for it, and with a 75% African-American player base in a country that's 75% white, well, you tell me what's going on?

Um. It is.
- BeadyEyedDouche

You need to read a book my guy.

America is like middle of the pack in diversity of countries.

Canada is the only western country in the top 20 of diverse countries in the world.