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hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Feb 7 @ 11:27 AM ET
What has Bunnaman contributed in the 50 NHL games he's played? He makes me long for the days of Chris VandeVelde.
- PLindbergh31

Bunny has got his shot and he just isn't an nhl player. Another low ceiling pick.

Bill if your reading do the Flyers still have any interest in bringing back Mikhail Vorobyov? Or has that ship sailed?
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 7 @ 11:29 AM ET
Either Newhook or Girard works for me. The Avs first this year wouldn't help for years if ever. Fletcher gets paid to work these deals. When i losted how important an off season this is, it really starts here. Gotta get foundational pieces and build. Bill, there are some young guys already here with Farabee and York. We've seen some of what Frost brings, what is his upside...in your opinion?
- DANCER


It's got to bring you comfort that a guy who built a team with two double digit losing streaks in the first half of the season is going to wheel and deal at the deadline and this summer.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Feb 7 @ 11:34 AM ET
Newhook will not be an option, Jost will be an option
- ClaudeFather


Jost is not a player we will be interested in. If Newhook is not an option, Colorado simply doesnt get Giroux. There will be someone else offering a much better package.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Feb 7 @ 11:36 AM ET
It's got to bring you comfort that a guy who built a team with two double digit losing streaks in the first half of the season is going to wheel and deal at the deadline and this summer.
- PLindbergh31


Yes because Im sure he foresaw the team having to dress an AHL team because of injuries..... Fact is when Laughton is your #2 C, you are not going to win many games.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Feb 7 @ 11:36 AM ET
I love Jason's podcast and I really enjoy when you join him Bill. However I think Jason is off his rocker if he things Colorado would trade one of their top 4 defenseman in Girard who players over 20 minutes a game for a rental. I think your idea of getting Newhook makes much more sense, however I can't see Colorado trading him straight up for G. I think the Flyers would have to give up more.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 7 @ 11:37 AM ET
Yes because Im sure he foresaw the team having to dress an AHL team because of injuries..... Fact is when Laughton is your #2 C, you are not going to win many games.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx


He brought Ellis in. How's that working out? Who didn't foresee him being injured other than Fletcher?
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Feb 7 @ 11:37 AM ET
I don't think Frost is competing with Brown. I could see it going down this way.

Brassard activated/ Willman back to the Phantoms.

Brown activated/ Bunnaman back to the Phantoms.

- bmeltzer

Yes, exactly!
arichardson22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Feb 7 @ 11:37 AM ET
Jost is not a player we will be interested in. If Newhook is not an option, Colorado simply doesnt get Giroux. There will be someone else offering a much better package.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx


This. People keep forgetting there will be competition to acquire Giroux. He arguably will be the most sought trade piece. Anyone who suggests otherwise is just a salty Giroux hater
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Feb 7 @ 11:39 AM ET
Jost is not a player we will be interested in. If Newhook is not an option, Colorado simply doesnt get Giroux. There will be someone else offering a much better package.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx


Newhook or bust? You guys are gonna be really disappointed by the return for G. There's other quality players available and a NMC involved...
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Feb 7 @ 11:41 AM ET
This. People keep forgetting there will be competition to acquire Giroux. He arguably will be the most sought trade piece. Anyone who suggests otherwise is just a salty Giroux hater
- arichardson22


Smells like a buyer's market since Kessel, Pavelski and Hertl should be available, too.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Feb 7 @ 11:42 AM ET
This. People keep forgetting there will be competition to acquire Giroux. He arguably will be the most sought trade piece. Anyone who suggests otherwise is just a salty Giroux hater
- arichardson22

It doesn't look like Dallas will catch either St. Louis or Minnesota, so they may be looking to trade Pavelski. If so he would be more sought after than G, but there should be plenty of teams vying for G at the deadline.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Feb 7 @ 11:43 AM ET
He brought Ellis in. How's that working out? Who didn't foresee him being injured other than Fletcher?
- PLindbergh31

I don't think anyone could foresee Ellis out the entire season, except you in hindsight of course.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Feb 7 @ 11:43 AM ET
This. People keep forgetting there will be competition to acquire Giroux. He arguably will be the most sought trade piece. Anyone who suggests otherwise is just a salty Giroux hater
- arichardson22

Is it possible CC limits the teams he want to go to?
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Feb 7 @ 11:44 AM ET
Smells like a buyer's market since Kessel, Pavelski and Hertl should be available, too.
- Tomahawk

Another factor to consider. Also possibly TT miller.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 7 @ 11:45 AM ET
I don't think anyone could foresee Ellis out the entire season, except you in hindsight of course.
- jd250


I'm sure beginning next year Ellis will start his own Yandle iron man streak.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Feb 7 @ 11:46 AM ET
2-3 pieces away from being a contender
- ClaudeFather



I completely agree.

Connor McDavid
Cale Makar
Alex Barkov.

Easy peasey!
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Feb 7 @ 11:46 AM ET
Newhook or bust? You guys are gonna be really disappointed by the return for G. There's other quality players available and a NMC involved...
- Tomahawk

The NMC will be waived, that is not an issue. Yes, there will be other forwards available at the deadline, however there will also be more than 1 contending team looking for a forward and thus G will be highly sought after. As I stated, no way Colorado is trading Newhook for G straight up, but what if the Flyers sweetened the deal by covering G's $1.6M owed and adding a pick or prospect?
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Feb 7 @ 11:47 AM ET
I'm sure beginning next year Ellis will start his own Yandle iron man streak.
- PLindbergh31

He might .. that would be great if true.
hfc355
Joined: 06.17.2013

Feb 7 @ 11:47 AM ET
Is it possible CC limits the teams he want to go to?
- hello it's me 2050

Of course and I would expect that he will...that is if he agrees to be traded at all...
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Feb 7 @ 11:48 AM ET
I'm sure beginning next year Ellis will start his own Yandle iron man streak.
- PLindbergh31




I think we all forget that iron rusts pretty badly when exposed to moisture.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Feb 7 @ 11:48 AM ET
Is it possible CC limits the teams he want to go to?
- hello it's me 2050

Its G's right, however it doesn't make sense to the Flyers unless there are at least 5 teams he is willing to go to, given there will be other good forwards on the market at the deadline.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Feb 7 @ 11:48 AM ET
He brought Ellis in. How's that working out? Who didn't foresee him being injured other than Fletcher?
- PLindbergh31


Thats funny because when Couturier, Hayes, Brassard and any other guy got hurt for the hundredth time you put that on the medical staff yet the same exact thing is why Ellis is out but thats Fletchers fault. The only joke bigger than the Flyers this season is your opinions.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Feb 7 @ 11:48 AM ET
This. People keep forgetting there will be competition to acquire Giroux. He arguably will be the most sought trade piece. Anyone who suggests otherwise is just a salty Giroux hater
- arichardson22

there' won't be as much competition as you think there's a few other big names available
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Feb 7 @ 11:50 AM ET
Is it possible CC limits the teams he want to go to?
- hello it's me 2050



I think it is pretty fair to say it is 100% that it be a playoff bound team. He will not waive to go to a team that is out of it.

I mean, I don't know the guy personally but I have a strong feeling that will be the case.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Feb 7 @ 11:51 AM ET
Newhook or bust? You guys are gonna be really disappointed by the return for G. There's other quality players available and a NMC involved...
- Tomahawk


NMC is not an issue he will waive it regardless. He may have a preference but he isnt going to stay here. He's going to a new team. He might not say it but there is frustration with this this team. He wants out while he has a chance to go to a contender. If Fletcher asks him to waive he will do it.
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