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xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Feb 7 @ 5:58 PM ET
Giroux will bring back nothing!

No Giroux will bring back a boat load!

Zach MacEwan has 3 points on the fourth line!

I’m just glad we’re not talking about Hextall anymore. Oh and by the way Feanor, nobody can kill penalties on this team.

- SuperSchennBros


Hextall can kill penalties
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Feb 7 @ 6:03 PM ET
Avs need a goalie. If they're trading Newhook for anybody, it'll be for a turnkey, cost-controlled young goalie. (Aka Carter Hart)

Another scoring forward is a luxury add for them. And for Newhook they could probably get somebody even better than Claude (Hertl).

- Tomahawk

Colorado's goalie is not the issue. The Avalanche are scoring over 4 goals a game and giving up less than 3 and as long as that continues they will win a lot of games. However what I do notice is two stats that will come back and bite Colorado in the playoffs, a PK that is 76% and they give up about 31 shots a game. To me you address this in either one of two ways, you sure up your defense and PK units, or you just add more firepower to your lineup so you have more depth in your scoring. Getting G, Hertl or Pavelski would most likely put them over the top, and trading Newhook for it will not impact their team this year or next.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Feb 7 @ 6:06 PM ET
Boston is an interesting case. Claude could center Pasta on the second. He also could lead the 2nd PP unit. Boston is brutally thin at center so it could make sense for both sides. Maybe a prospect like Beecher and a draft pick would work
- juiced

The problem is Boston has nothing to offer the Flyers, no picks, no prospects, no good young players.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 7 @ 6:08 PM ET
Colorado's goalie is not the issue. The Avalanche are scoring over 4 goals a game and giving up less than 3 and as long as that continues they will win a lot of games. However what I do notice is two stats that will come back and bite Colorado in the playoffs, a PK that is 76% and they give up about 31 shots a game. To me you address this in either one of two ways, you sure up your defense and PK units, or you just add more firepower to your lineup so you have more depth in your scoring. Getting G, Hertl or Pavelski would most likely put them over the top, and trading Newhook for it will not impact their team this year or next.
- jd250


Lack of forward depth? The Avs have 5 forwards who have scored 35 or more points. The score over 4 goals a game on average.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Feb 7 @ 6:21 PM ET
The problem is Boston has nothing to offer the Flyers, no picks, no prospects, no good young players.
- jd250

They own their 1st and 2nd round picks this year and have Calgary’s 3rd rounder…

As a 34 year old rental G isn’t bringing back any top prospects. I’d try to get a 1st and 3rd out of someone and call it a day.
hfc355
Joined: 06.17.2013

Feb 7 @ 7:21 PM ET
Colorado's goalie is not the issue. The Avalanche are scoring over 4 goals a game and giving up less than 3 and as long as that continues they will win a lot of games. However what I do notice is two stats that will come back and bite Colorado in the playoffs, a PK that is 76% and they give up about 31 shots a game. To me you address this in either one of two ways, you sure up your defense and PK units, or you just add more firepower to your lineup so you have more depth in your scoring. Getting G, Hertl or Pavelski would most likely put them over the top, and trading Newhook for it will not impact their team this year or next.
- jd250

Not getting Newhook for G....teams font give away top prospects under ELCs for rentals. G is a luxury not a need for Avs
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Feb 7 @ 7:36 PM ET
Filthy




PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Feb 7 @ 8:14 PM ET
Hextall can kill penalties

- xShoot4WarAmpsx


You are certainly thinking out of the box....


ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Feb 7 @ 8:40 PM ET
One of the nicest face off plays I’ve seen on that Matthews goal
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Feb 7 @ 9:23 PM ET
One of the nicest face off plays I’ve seen on that Matthews goal
- ClaudeFather


He sure can fire the puck.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Feb 8 @ 12:16 AM ET
Lack of forward depth? The Avs have 5 forwards who have scored 35 or more points. The score over 4 goals a game on average.
- MJL


If you watch the colorado games you know that there is an issue with goaltending. If you feel as though you have a team that can win, then you go and upgrade the goaltending. They can still
Win reg season, but playoffs is a different animal.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Feb 8 @ 2:18 AM ET
One of the nicest face off plays I’ve seen on that Matthews goal
- ClaudeFather


My boy Mitch w/ 19 pts in his last 8-games.
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Feb 8 @ 7:00 AM ET
Gonna repost this in Bills next blog but until then, an update.

TONY DEANGELO, SIGNED FOR $1MIL (RHD)
8 goals, 35 points, +13

KEITH YANDLE, SIGNED FOR 900K
0 goals, 13 assists, -24

Yes, the Canes are better than the Flyers. No, I'm not saying DeAngelo would have DEFINITELY had this same success on a bad Flyers team. However, he could have been in a nice piece. Instead, we signed a guy who's 9 years older and is absolutely cooked.

"Muhhh attitude problem!"...(the Canes seemed to figure that out)

The people that run this team don't understand the modern game of hockey. That is all.

xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Feb 8 @ 7:14 AM ET
Gonna repost this in Bills next blog but until then, an update.

TONY DEANGELO, SIGNED FOR $1MIL (RHD)
8 goals, 35 points, +13

KEITH YANDLE, SIGNED FOR 900K
0 goals, 13 assists, -24

Yes, the Canes are better than the Flyers. No, I'm not saying DeAngelo would have DEFINITELY had this same success on a bad Flyers team. However, he could have been in a nice piece. Instead, we signed a guy who's 9 years older and is absolutely cooked.

"Muhhh attitude problem!"...(the Canes seemed to figure that out)

The people that run this team don't understand the modern game of hockey. That is all.

- mochoson


DeAngelo comes with a lot of baggage. Not to mention DeAngelo's deployment at evstr is much better than Yandle. Yandle is also only had a 40 point season in 2019-20

Both were far from guarantees. It is easy to sit here and say DeAngelo is great on Carolina but its easy to say that when the team is doing well. If CAR struggles does DeAngelo keep his cool or does he go off the rails and attack his teammates again.

Both moves were low risk high reward. One situation works the other didnt. DeAngelo on Philly likely ends up like it did on the rags. Carolina didnt figure out anything. They are just winning so hos attitude isnt a problem.
Shrike
Joined: 05.20.2016

Feb 8 @ 7:19 AM ET
DeAngelo comes with a lot of baggage. Not to mention DeAngelo's deployment at evstr is much better than Yandle. Yandle is also only had a 40 point season in 2019-20

Both were far from guarantees. It is easy to sit here and say DeAngelo is great on Carolina but its easy to say that when the team is doing well. If CAR struggles does DeAngelo keep his cool or does he go off the rails and attack his teammates again.

Both moves were low risk high reward. One situation works the other didnt. DeAngelo on Philly likely ends up like it did on the rags. Carolina didnt figure out anything. They are just winning so hos attitude isnt a problem.

- xShoot4WarAmpsx

So your saying Giroux isn’t a good leader?
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Feb 8 @ 7:22 AM ET
DeAngelo comes with a lot of baggage. Not to mention DeAngelo's deployment at evstr is much better than Yandle. Yandle is also only had a 40 point season in 2019-20

Both were far from guarantees. It is easy to sit here and say DeAngelo is great on Carolina but its easy to say that when the team is doing well. If CAR struggles does DeAngelo keep his cool or does he go off the rails and attack his teammates again.

Both moves were low risk high reward. One situation works the other didnt. DeAngelo on Philly likely ends up like it did on the rags. Carolina didnt figure out anything. They are just winning so hos attitude isnt a problem.

- xShoot4WarAmpsx


He doesn't really come with "a lot of baggage though".

I know his family. His dad is a giant brick poop house. Like, whatever you imagine a large south jersey italian gangster looking like, that's Tony's dad.

Did he have some maturing to do? Sure. Was he maybe rushed to the NHL a year or 2 to early? Possibly. But it's hard when you're ready skill wise, but not quite ready mentally to be a professional athlete. Let just say his dad really, realllllly pushed him to be good at hockey.

His "baggage" culminates to some articles that were written about him around his draft day and then him almost beating up Georgiev. That's literally it.

Ultimately, the Flyers couldn't even afford DeAngelo. I can point out all day he only cost an extra 100k, but we literally don't have it
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 8 @ 7:47 AM ET
DeAngelo comes with a lot of baggage. Not to mention DeAngelo's deployment at evstr is much better than Yandle. Yandle is also only had a 40 point season in 2019-20

Both were far from guarantees. It is easy to sit here and say DeAngelo is great on Carolina but its easy to say that when the team is doing well. If CAR struggles does DeAngelo keep his cool or does he go off the rails and attack his teammates again.

Both moves were low risk high reward. One situation works the other didnt. DeAngelo on Philly likely ends up like it did on the rags. Carolina didnt figure out anything. They are just winning so hos attitude isnt a problem.

- xShoot4WarAmpsx


This is a very nice spin attempt. Here is the reality. The Canes took a chance in not re-signing Hamilton and instead moving on from him and signing DeAngelo. The big difference between the two players is that DeAngelo is still an NHL player. The Flyers signed a player who should've retired and is no longer a capable NHL player.
Stating that Carolina didn't figure anything out is having blinders on.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 8 @ 7:52 AM ET


Ultimately, the Flyers couldn't even afford DeAngelo. I can point out all day he only cost an extra 100k, but we literally don't have it

- mochoson


Yes, the Flyers could've afforded DeAngelo.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Feb 8 @ 8:45 AM ET
He doesn't really come with "a lot of baggage though".

I know his family. His dad is a giant brick poop house. Like, whatever you imagine a large south jersey italian gangster looking like, that's Tony's dad.

Did he have some maturing to do? Sure. Was he maybe rushed to the NHL a year or 2 to early? Possibly. But it's hard when you're ready skill wise, but not quite ready mentally to be a professional athlete. Let just say his dad really, realllllly pushed him to be good at hockey.

His "baggage" culminates to some articles that were written about him around his draft day and then him almost beating up Georgiev. That's literally it.

Ultimately, the Flyers couldn't even afford DeAngelo. I can point out all day he only cost an extra 100k, but we literally don't have it

- mochoson


Flyers could have afforded him. He needed more than maturing. He punched his own teammate and he was also suspended twice for sexist\homophobic/racist comments. Then there was his whole social media thing. It is more than maturing. Like I said these issues arent an issue if you are winning which the canes are.

In Philly he would not be winning and there would be frustration. Does it automatically mean he would do those things? Of course not but you cant say these arent issues anymore if hes not in a position where those issues would be present. These issues presented themselves due to frustration. He is not facing frustration like he did in New York when the team started the season 1-5-1

A team doesnt kick you off the team after 6 games for something minor
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Feb 8 @ 9:34 AM ET
these issues arent an issue if you are winning which the canes are.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx


1) What you said,

2) He's on his best behavior because he realized he was a female genitalia hair away from sabotaging his own career for good.

3) It's a lot easier to fly under the radar in Raleigh than NYC or Philly. Fans and media in Philly are (frank)ing jackals waiting for any excuse,

4) Recent Philly coaches have almost zero tolerance for guys like Tony D, Gus and Ghost.


So yeah.... cards would have been stacked against him here. Raleigh is more or less the perfect situation for him.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Feb 8 @ 4:07 PM ET


His "baggage" culminates to some articles that were written about him around his draft day and then him almost beating up Georgiev. That's literally it.

Ultimately, the Flyers couldn't even afford DeAngelo. I can point out all day he only cost an extra 100k, but we literally don't have it

- mochoson


There were a lot of minor incidents, scattered throughout those endpoints. Being physical with a ref, multiple benchings/cautions from his coaches, the unnecessary brandishing of his political views on Twitter, etc. etc.

A priori, money apart, I can understand why teams would be cautious. The Canes team is so cohesive, his defensive liabilities are probably being submerged within overall Team D. Apart from the mellow NC digs Tmhwk mentioned, that imo is a factor as well.


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