We have 4 more points in the standings than Seattle and that roster wasn’t even built to win.

Our goal differential is also among the worst in the league.

I’m sure a quick retool will sort this all out though.
- hereticpride

The only teams with a worse goal differential are Arizona & Montreal.

Go through all of Fletcher's moves since he has been here and give each a up or a down, then talk to me about whether he is a good GM or not. There is much more positive then negative here IMO.
- jd250

He is not a good GM and his teams record shows that.

Off top of my head:

Niskanen - good move
Braun - good move
Atkinson - good move

Cant think of any other good moves he has made. None of those 3 have moved the needle have they?

Look, I think some people on this forum just like to bash the Flyers and they want to believe this is a clown show of a franchise. Some just hate the current leadership because they were in love with the previous leadership. Others like me are genuine fans and want he team to succeed and long for a cup!

Chuck Fletcher is a Harvard graduate and has been in Hockey operations for over 3 decades. The guy may look like a dork that everyone picked on before and after school, but to suggest he is incompetent and does not know how to run a hockey team is plain silly. To suggest he does not know how to build out a hockey operations staff or how to develop players is equally silly. I still have a lot of confidence in Fletcher. Yes I know some of his moves have not worked out but some of his moves have. I also am very encouraged in his drafting with Brent Flahr and liked what I heard regarding his investment in the hockey operations. Now if you want to dismiss Fletcher as an incompetent dunce that is your prerogative, but just know no one in hockey feels this way about Fletcher.
- jd250

The two double digit losing streaks in the first half of the season didn't give you an indication of a clown show huh?

They are comparable in terms of being young players who are all NHL ready. You are completely wrong in stating that they're not. If Detroit, who is actually a better team than the Flyers are can play young players, so can the Flyers. The Flyers are again, mismanaging young players. They are terrible at player development.



That's why you have coaches. Now I would agree that the coaches on the Flyers have not been good but there is no reason whatsoever that both players can't be coached out of bad habits the same way that they can in the AHL..



My mistake, I went back and looked at that comment concerning Seeler. I misinterpreted it. Flyers would gain a lot from sitting Yandle and playing the player who should be in that spot in York. They are clueless and it seems as though you buy into their cluelessness.
- MJL

You wanted Yandle over York before the season started

He is not a good GM and his teams record shows that.

Off top of my head:

Niskanen - good move
Braun - good move
Atkinson - good move

Cant think of any other good moves he has made. None of those 3 have moved the needle have they?
- hello it's me 2050

Niskanen retiring after one season causing a crater sized hole on the blueline isn't exactly great.

I want to be surprised by this game but I am not. Red Wings have a few good young pieces to build around. Ratcliffe got a goal.

Are the coaches telling the players to not cover the slot or are they just all bad?
- mickel25

They gave the goal to Ratcliffe?

You wanted Yandle over York before the season started
- Fopa21

So did I. What is your point?

They gave the goal to Ratcliffe?
- SuperSchennBros

No, they gave the goal to Radcliff. Why should they be better at spelling than anything else.

Niskanen retiring after one season causing a crater sized hole on the blueline isn't exactly great.
- PLindbergh31

That isnt what was being discussed. Kudos to him for seeing this poop show and walking away.

I don't know the reasons why Frost and York were sent down. Neither do you or anyone else here. However I can assure you that its not because the organization is incompetent or does not know how to develop players. There have been some peculiar things going on with Frost this year, and I can only speculate as to why. Yes I have been encouraged with Frost's recent play in the past few weeks, but its not like he was lighting it up in the NHL even when playing better. We were not talking about nice goals or great assists, we were talking about smaller things like winning a puck battle or making a nice move. In the end Frost has apparently a lot more developing to do before he can be a consistent NHL player and the decision has been made for now to put in on the Phantoms. Maybe his attitude is bad because of this and thus Lappy is giving him tough love. I don't know what is going on, that is why I thought Bill should dig in.
- jd250

So you don't know why it was done but you assure me why it wasn't done? I stopped reading at that point. No reason to continue.

Seider was the 6th overall pick in 2019. Raymond was the 4th overall pick in 2020. See a trend here? You need to draft high and when you do you CAN'T miss on these high picks. The Flyers have had 1 top 5 pick in the last 14 years, and we all know how that went don't we?
- jd250

What's the trend?


You missed the point that was made.

So did I. What is your point?
- MBFlyerfan

"mjl rules" state you aren't allowed to change your pov or opinion, and you can harp on the original opinion for eternity.

that's the point.

"mjl rules" state you aren't allowed to change your pov or opinion, and you can harp on the original opinion for eternity.

that's the point.
- Robert's Plant

unless its him changing his opinion. lol

He is not a good GM and his teams record shows that.

Off top of my head:

Niskanen - good move
Braun - good move
Atkinson - good move

Cant think of any other good moves he has made. None of those 3 have moved the needle have they?
- hello it's me 2050

Niskanen absolutely moved the needle, the team was 1 win away from the final 4 in the league! Braun is a depth piece and Atkinson has absolutely moved the needle, he leads the team in goals and short handed goals and dramatically improves the team's PK. Fletcher also locked up Provorov, TK, Couturier and Farabee, all most likely will be the future core of this team. Fletcher was the reason Hart got a chance at the NHL and Hart is showing he is every bit a top goalie in this league. Fletcher also traded for Ryan Ellis, who though has been injured this year will be a major part of this team's core moving forward.

Fletcher's biggest mistake IMO was overestimating the readiness of his younger players to step in like Lindblom, Myers and Patrick and he learned from this and made a strong attempt this past offseason to build a team with veteran depth that could compete while giving his young players time to develop.

So you don't know why it was done but you assure me why it wasn't done? I stopped reading at that point. No reason to continue.
- MJL

Yes, I can assure there is no internal conspiracy trying to ruin Morgan Frost!

Look, I think some people on this forum just like to bash the Flyers and they want to believe this is a clown show of a franchise. Some just hate the current leadership because they were in love with the previous leadership. Others like me are genuine fans and want he team to succeed and long for a cup!

Chuck Fletcher is a Harvard graduate and has been in Hockey operations for over 3 decades. The guy may look like a dork that everyone picked on before and after school, but to suggest he is incompetent and does not know how to run a hockey team is plain silly. To suggest he does not know how to build out a hockey operations staff or how to develop players is equally silly. I still have a lot of confidence in Fletcher. Yes I know some of his moves have not worked out but some of his moves have. I also am very encouraged in his drafting with Brent Flahr and liked what I heard regarding his investment in the hockey operations. Now if you want to dismiss Fletcher as an incompetent dunce that is your prerogative, but just know no one in hockey feels this way about Fletcher.
- jd250

After reflecting, you're right. The fans have completely overreacted to this situation with how the team has been since the Harvard grad took over. Completely overreacting to the state the team has been in for the last 2 seasons.

Honestly, what has Fletcher done in his 12 plus years as a GM that gives you this confidence?


You've made a lot of quite frankly ridiculous and beyond absurd posts in your time but this one takes the cake. It is the grand daddy! Especially the part about being a genuine fan.

What's the trend?


You missed the point that was made.
- MJL

If you are asking this question, you are the one missing the point!

Yes, I can assure there is no internal conspiracy trying to ruin Morgan Frost!
- jd250

Who has suggested that there is an internal conspiracy? What are you talking about?

If you are asking this question, you are the one missing the point!
- jd250

Nope, I know what the point is. You don't. If you understand the point that was made you would know that where the players were drafted, doesn't matter in the context.

So did I. What is your point?
- MBFlyerfan

The poster is 100% incorrect. I was debating with a number of posters including Pete Richards in the past off season that I was unhappy with the Flyers signing vets such as Brassard and Yandle because they were taking away an opportunity for players such as Frost and York to make the team in camp.

They gave the goal to Ratcliffe?
- SuperSchennBros

The Flyers spelled it Radcliff on the three stars but yes they did.

Niskanen retiring after one season causing a crater sized hole on the blueline isn't exactly great.
- PLindbergh31

jesus(frank)ingchrist that's one of the dumbest takes I've ever seen from you.

I'm no fan of Fletcher, but you can't fault him for a player unexpectedly wanting to retire early.

The two double digit losing streaks in the first half of the season didn't give you an indication of a clown show huh?
- PLindbergh31

That post is one of the dumbest I’ve read in a long time.

The kool aide must flow.

So did I. What is your point?
- MBFlyerfan

Have some foresight

The poster is 100% incorrect. I was debating with a number of posters including Pete Richards in the past off season that I was unhappy with the Flyers signing vets such as Brassard and Yandle because they were taking away an opportunity for players such as Frost and York to make the team in camp.
- MJL

Absolutely hilarious. You were all for letting york develop in the ahl