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MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Feb 10 @ 11:01 AM ET
If Frost or Ghost did this they would be sent down.....
- hello it's me 2050



AV would bench Ghost for breathing incorrectly.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 10 @ 11:10 AM ET
Tippett fired in Edmonton. What a mess they are. Two of the best, if not the best players in the NHL and they are a dumpster fire.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Feb 10 @ 11:13 AM ET
Tippett fired in Edmonton. What a mess they are. Two of the best, if not the best players in the NHL and they are a dumpster fire.
- PLindbergh31

Hitch back!!!!
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Feb 10 @ 11:17 AM ET
He waits 10 seconds on a player? The Flyers are just weird in what they do and tolerate and what they can't abide. Both of these guys should be gone. This organization is so unprofessional in everything it does. Yeesh.
- iamscore2day


To paraphrase Ashley Wilkes, I am hoping what we are seeing is a gotterdamerung.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Feb 10 @ 11:19 AM ET
Imagine being a goalie on this team knowing there is no margin for error. You pretty much need to perfect every game. That is just something that doesn't happen.
- hello it's me 2050


Or, tell him: son, you don't need to be perfect. Ignore the score, and the context, and don't dwell on mistakes. We know your potential and we believe in you. We are not looking at you as the calvary riding in to the rescue. Just play your game, do your best and get the experience.



hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Feb 10 @ 11:22 AM ET
Or, tell him: son, you don't need to be perfect. Ignore the score, and the context, and don't dwell on mistakes. We know your potential and we believe in you. We are not looking at you as the calvary riding in to the rescue. Just play your game, do your best and get the experience.
- PT21

Doesn't matter what you tell him. Goalies are wired differently. He will still know he has to be mistake free.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Feb 10 @ 11:23 AM ET
Holmgren should just fire Yeo and coach the rest of the way. Bring in Keenen just so I can be entertained.

It is clear as day Yeo is a joke and an ext of AV.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Feb 10 @ 11:29 AM ET
Bill, was wondering something about Marchand's 6 game suspension. Does his forfeited salary count against the cap? If not, may it be enough to influence trades at the deadline, such as they may be able to afford someone they otherwise wouldn't?
- backfire
The trade deadline is a long way away. Not sure what this has to do with that?
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Feb 10 @ 11:32 AM ET
2 and a half months left of going through the motions, but hey, at least we get to see Keith Yandle pretending to be an NHL player every night.

The whole “Yandle is a great guy” crap is such utter b.s. If he gave a damn about anything but his f’n streak, he’d show some actual class and retire immediately. He’s a total fraud, has no business playing in the NHL and worse he’s hogging a roster spot that should be York’s right now.

This team’s developmental philosophy is just criminal. York and for that matter, Frost and Zamula have no reason to be playing in the AHL right now. This is the PERFECT time to get all 3 valuable NHL minutes and all 3 should be playing in all situations. They will make mistakes, great, this is the time to make them and learn from them. But somehow, the clowns running this garbage dump, think it’s more beneficial to have them playing in LHV and getting the opportunity to watch AHL lifers play on the pp.

There is no defending any aspect of this organization, none, nada, nothing. Scott, Fletcher and Clarke all need to be sent packing!

- BiggE
The fact that Yandle is still dressing for this team is all you need to know about how poorly run they really are. It's funny I see everyone ripping Seeler on that second Detroit goal last night, and yet, no one is ripping Yandle for smoking some crack out at the blueline on that play to leave Seeler to fend for himself! GET YANDLE DAFUQUE OUT NOW!!!!!!!
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Feb 10 @ 11:40 AM ET
Doesn't matter what you tell him. Goalies are wired differently. He will still know he has to be mistake free.
- hello it's me 2050


How does it matter how he feels? Lot of instances of goalies turning out to be very good after playing on bad teams early in career.

And if you feel the stress is getting to him, play Jones.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Feb 10 @ 11:44 AM ET
How does it matter how he feels? Lot of instances of goalies turning out to be very good after playing on bad teams early in career.

And if you feel the stress is getting to him, play Jones.

- PT21

You clearly are not understanding what I am saying. Move along.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Feb 10 @ 11:45 AM ET
Holmgren should just fire Yeo and coach the rest of the way. Bring in Keenen just so I can be entertained.

It is clear as day Yeo is a joke and an ext of AV.

- hello it's me 2050



2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Feb 10 @ 11:46 AM ET
i guess edmonton needs the great leadership from giroux there
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Feb 10 @ 11:46 AM ET
You clearly are not understanding what I am saying. Move along.
- hello it's me 2050


There is nothing to understand except that I am systematically taking away 50% of your morning diet of pork rolls and self-flagellation.

My sincerest apologies?
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Feb 10 @ 11:48 AM ET
Another take from last night's game is how much farther ahead the Wings are from the Flyers. Yeah, the Flyers have injuries, but look at all the young guys contributing to the Wings. That my friends is called having a real GM that knows what he is doing. Turned the Bolts into perennial contenders and will most likely do the same with the Wings. The Flyers prefer ex player dolts to run their organization though. Thanks!! Giroux didn't have a very good game last night, but just wait until he is traded. This team very well may not win another game after he is traded cause they will simply be that bad. No need to even try to tank.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 10 @ 11:49 AM ET
Or, tell him: son, you don't need to be perfect. Ignore the score, and the context, and don't dwell on mistakes. We know your potential and we believe in you. We are not looking at you as the calvary riding in to the rescue. Just play your game, do your best and get the experience.
- PT21



That would have zero chance of working. Goes against human nature.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Feb 10 @ 11:50 AM ET
The fact that Yandle is still dressing for this team is all you need to know about how poorly run they really are. It's funny I see everyone ripping Seeler on that second Detroit goal last night, and yet, no one is ripping Yandle for smoking some crack out at the blueline on that play to leave Seeler to fend for himself! GET YANDLE DAFUQUE OUT NOW!!!!!!!
- Phillywhiteout


Why? We all know what Yandle is. The team is better off losing. Seeler is no better than Yandle

There wasnt any Dman last night that had a good game. Even Provorov looked awful
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Feb 10 @ 11:54 AM ET
That would have zero chance of working. Goes against human nature.
- MJL


I disagree. The point of telling him that would be to remind him that it's a team game. He'll still try to do his best to let nothing behind him, of course, but sometimes the reminder of the big picture is helpful.

But yes, goalies gonna goalie, too. lol
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Feb 10 @ 11:56 AM ET
Only to the Flyers is an 8 day break a tough situation for them to overcome. The culture and accountability on this team is comical. I can see a little rust in the 1st period, but after that this team should have had plenty of energy. I love the candidness of Yeo in his post game. Powerplay 0-5, welcome to the Flyers Torchetti!
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Feb 10 @ 11:59 AM ET
2 and a half months left of going through the motions, but hey, at least we get to see Keith Yandle pretending to be an NHL player every night.

The whole “Yandle is a great guy” crap is such utter b.s. If he gave a damn about anything but his f’n streak, he’d show some actual class and retire immediately. He’s a total fraud, has no business playing in the NHL and worse he’s hogging a roster spot that should be York’s right now.

This team’s developmental philosophy is just criminal. York and for that matter, Frost and Zamula have no reason to be playing in the AHL right now. This is the PERFECT time to get all 3 valuable NHL minutes and all 3 should be playing in all situations. They will make mistakes, great, this is the time to make them and learn from them. But somehow, the clowns running this garbage dump, think it’s more beneficial to have them playing in LHV and getting the opportunity to watch AHL lifers play on the pp.

There is no defending any aspect of this organization, none, nada, nothing. Scott, Fletcher and Clarke all need to be sent packing!

- BiggE

Watching Yandle chase a Red Wings forward all the way up to his own blue line, leaving Seeler and Laughton to cover the crease was especially comical. I know Yandle sucks, but as a veteran at least be in the right place in your defensive zone coverage.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 10 @ 11:59 AM ET
The fact that Yandle is still dressing for this team is all you need to know about how poorly run they really are. It's funny I see everyone ripping Seeler on that second Detroit goal last night, and yet, no one is ripping Yandle for smoking some crack out at the blueline on that play to leave Seeler to fend for himself! GET YANDLE DAFUQUE OUT NOW!!!!!!!
- Phillywhiteout


Flyers play man to man coverage in the defensive zone when the opposition has possession of the puck. I think you can make an argument that Yandle should've broken off coverage and headed back to the net but the real issue is the lack of adjustments by the coaches. They have not changed from the system that it is clear, the Flyers cannot play effectively. Just continuing to go over video and drills with the same system is not working. They need to change to see if the team can be more effective playing differently.
Sinisalo4vr
Location: Dont f with the Jesus, PA
Joined: 06.24.2016

Feb 10 @ 11:59 AM ET
I thought it would be possible to ride out Yeo for the remainder of the season and look for a coach in the summer. I was wrong.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 10 @ 12:00 PM ET
Watching Yandle chase a Red Wings forward all the way up to his own blue line, leaving Seeler and Laughton to cover the crease was especially comical. I know Yandle sucks, but as a veteran at least be in the right place in your defensive zone coverage.
- jd250



Where is the right place in his defensive coverage?
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Feb 10 @ 12:00 PM ET
I thought it would be possible to ride out Yeo for the remainder of the season and look for a coach in the summer. I was wrong.
- Sinisalo4vr

how would anything be different with a new coach
Sinisalo4vr
Location: Dont f with the Jesus, PA
Joined: 06.24.2016

Feb 10 @ 12:01 PM ET
Flyers play man to man coverage in the defensive zone when the opposition has possession of the puck. I think you can make an argument that Yandle should've broken off coverage and headed back to the net but the real issue is the lack of adjustments by the coaches. They have not changed from the system that it is clear, the Flyers cannot play effectively. Just continuing to go over video and drills with the same system is not working. They need to change to see if the team can be more effective playing differently.
- MJL

I honestly don't know how Fletcher could watch that game and not fire Yeo.
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