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iamscore2day
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Alexandria, VA
Joined: 03.23.2021

Feb 10 @ 12:02 PM ET
Holmgren should just fire Yeo and coach the rest of the way. Bring in Keenen just so I can be entertained.

It is clear as day Yeo is a joke and an ext of AV.

- hello it's me 2050

I would prefer Torts. He would speak his mind and make things entertaining at least. I could see him telling the media to ask Chuck why he thinks an AHL team should win games in the NHL. The entertainment factor would be off the charts and would take this franchise from a legend in its own mind to entertaining reality TV.
Sinisalo4vr
Location: Dont f with the Jesus, PA
Joined: 06.24.2016

Feb 10 @ 12:02 PM ET
how would anything be different with a new coach
- 2Real

The power play debacle with four skaters on the ice proves that he is not mentally capable of game-day coaching any longer. Maybe its not better but how could it be worse than that.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Feb 10 @ 12:03 PM ET
What's crazy is I did not see it reported anywhere other than your blog/tweet. How long do you think they went with 4 skaters on the ice? Was it longer than 10 seconds? Was there any questions asked of Yeo about it post game?
- PLindbergh31

Yeo was asked about it, said it was communicated on the bench but then 5 seconds went by before a player was ready. Yeo was really frustrated when he talked about this, sighting the many times he has shown video and gone over this with the team and yet they still do not execute. I know many on here want to blame the coaches, but this is 100% on the players, starting with the veterans on this team that are supposed to be leading by example.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Feb 10 @ 12:04 PM ET
Tippett fired in Edmonton. What a mess they are. Two of the best, if not the best players in the NHL and they are a dumpster fire.
- PLindbergh31


Here's hoping Alain Vigneault gets hired so he can take Mike Yeo along with him.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Feb 10 @ 12:04 PM ET
They can't. See he is 29 years old and is a veteran. We have to keep the young players who are NHL ready down in the AHL so they can earn their way back to the NHL.
- MJL

And you 100% positively sure that is why York and Frost are on the phantoms right now, because they are being forced to fight their way back to the NHL??
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Feb 10 @ 12:06 PM ET
I disagree. The point of telling him that would be to remind him that it's a team game. He'll still try to do his best to let nothing behind him, of course, but sometimes the reminder of the big picture is helpful.

But yes, goalies gonna goalie, too. lol

- Scoob


Point is not to bother about goalie's tender psyche. Bother instead about his play. If it regresses/shows signs of stress, spell him. If not, play him.

Its not like young good goalie + bad team => bad future goalie. Jonathan Quick started on some awful LA teams. Seemed to have turned out ok. I am sure there are many others.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Feb 10 @ 12:07 PM ET
It was longer than 10 seconds. Giroux put the puck around the boards but there was no one there. Wings had a 2-on-1 shorthanded rush. Hart made the save. Even beyond that, it took an additional 5 or 6 seconds.

I asked Yeo about it post game. Asked him if there was some confusion or miscommunication about Mayhew replacing TK on the change or if no one on the bench subsequently yelled to get out there. He put it 100 percent on the player:

"That was just somebody not being ready for

- bmeltzer[replacing] their guy. As a coach, you’re sitting there watching and you’ve got a two on one in that situation, so I’m watching that play. But the communication was there on the bench that we had four guys, but still took another five seconds for the player to be ready. We have to be sharper. To me it was a prime example of where our heads were at. Assignments that we’ve drilled over and over again, shown on video over and over again, that we were missing right from the start of the game."

Hmmm ... but to some on this forum we should fire Yeo because his bad coaching is the reason this happens. It's never the PROFESSIONAL player's fault, its always the coach and the GM ... and Risto ... that are to blame.
iamscore2day
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Alexandria, VA
Joined: 03.23.2021

Feb 10 @ 12:08 PM ET
And you 100% positively sure that is why York and Frost are on the phantoms right now, because they are being forced to fight their way back to the NHL??
- jd250

I guess everyone needs someone to love. In the Chucky/Bobby crew, you have picked a pretty weird bunch to back TBH.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Feb 10 @ 12:08 PM ET
Point is not to bother about goalie's tender psyche. Bother instead about his play. If it regresses/shows signs of stress, spell him. If not, play him.

Its not like young good goalie + bad team => bad future goalie. Jonathan Quick started on some awful LA teams. Seemed to have turned out ok. I am sure there are many others.

- PT21


I don't disagree. I'd think all players need the occasional reminder that it's a team game and they need to focus on doing their own job, though.


jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Feb 10 @ 12:09 PM ET
They are on their way to ruining a good quality young player. His game will start to erode if this keeps up. Guaranteed. It's too much weight for anyone player. The have to make a coaching change and bring in a temp coach who is actually going to improve something and get this team playing better and more sound in the fundamentals of the NHL game.
- MJL

Not for nothing but Hart didn't look too ready to play last night either. But Oh .. wait ... that is the coaches fault also!
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 10 @ 12:10 PM ET
Yeo was asked about it, said it was communicated on the bench but then 5 seconds went by before a player was ready. Yeo was really frustrated when he talked about this, sighting the many times he has shown video and gone over this with the team and yet they still do not execute. I know many on here want to blame the coaches, but this is 100% on the players, starting with the veterans on this team that are supposed to be leading by example.
- jd250


So what is the coach going to do about it? Know what that is? It's a sign that the coach does not have control of the bench and does not have the respect of the players. Yes it is on the players but you can't fire the team.
iamscore2day
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Alexandria, VA
Joined: 03.23.2021

Feb 10 @ 12:11 PM ET
Hmmm ... but to some on this forum we should fire Yeo because his bad coaching is the reason this happens. It's never the PROFESSIONAL player's fault, its always the coach and the GM ... and Risto ... that are to blame.
- jd250


Methinks you like dumpster fires if you can't see any management/coaching blame in this situation. It would be nice if someone could say Mayhew never got another shift and there was a news report of his being sent down to Lehigh Valley. That would be something.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 10 @ 12:11 PM ET
Not for nothing but Hart didn't look too ready to play last night either. But Oh .. wait ... that is the coaches fault also!
- jd250


Not for nothing but if not for Hart's play early, the game would've been over in the first period. He wasn't great but he kept the game from getting out of hand and it winding up 1-3 instead of 6-3.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Feb 10 @ 12:12 PM ET
I would like to know after video review how many goals or high quality scoring chances this team has given up due in part to bad line changes. They've been doing that all season. It has not been corrected.
- MJL

And of course, this is the coaches fault also! Come to think of it, on my beer league team we rarely have any issues with line changes and we don't have coaches behind us on the bench. Hmmmm .. how could this be possible I wonder? Oh, that's right, we actually communicate with each other and are paying attention to the game!
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Feb 10 @ 12:12 PM ET
Another take from last night's game is how much farther ahead the Wings are from the Flyers. Yeah, the Flyers have injuries, but look at all the young guys contributing to the Wings. That my friends is called having a real GM that knows what he is doing. Turned the Bolts into perennial contenders and will most likely do the same with the Wings. The Flyers prefer ex player dolts to run their organization though. Thanks!! Giroux didn't have a very good game last night, but just wait until he is traded. This team very well may not win another game after he is traded cause they will simply be that bad. No need to even try to tank.
- Phillywhiteout


Yzermans being taking our scruff and rubbing our nose in it since 97
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Feb 10 @ 12:13 PM ET
They teach you when/when not to make line changes when you’re a mite. If these bumms are doing it in the NHL the coaching is the least of their issues. No professional hockey team has to teach or talk about line changes. The players are a joke & it starts w cc & not holding any of his peers accountable. Cc & the invisible power forward that is jvr probably laugh everyday about rhe money they make for the effort they put out there
- Fopa21

SPOT ON! Clearly you are someone who has actually laced them up and played a bit.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 10 @ 12:14 PM ET
And you 100% positively sure that is why York and Frost are on the phantoms right now, because they are being forced to fight their way back to the NHL??
- jd250


I'm just going off of your posts and how the players have to earn it! I'm amazed with how reactionary you are to the Flyers moves and how you let it mold your opinions. If they wake up tomorrow and say something different, your opinion will change right along with it.
Both York and Frost belong in the NHL.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Feb 10 @ 12:14 PM ET
Yes, but after a few seconds a coach has to realize there is only 4 players on the ice and get someone out there. Come on.
- PLindbergh31

He did and no player responded for over 5 seconds!
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 10 @ 12:15 PM ET
And of course, this is the coaches fault also! Come to think of it, on my beer league team we rarely have any issues with line changes and we don't have coaches behind us on the bench. Hmmmm .. how could this be possible I wonder? Oh, that's right, we actually communicate with each other and are paying attention to the game!
- jd250


Yes, when it happens game after game after game. It is on the coaches. What do you think is their responsibility? I'm sure your beer league team is flawless.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 10 @ 12:16 PM ET
Hmmm ... but to some on this forum we should fire Yeo because his bad coaching is the reason this happens. It's never the PROFESSIONAL player's fault, its always the coach and the GM ... and Risto ... that are to blame.
- jd250


Sounds like the same you were spewing before Vigneault was fired. It wasn't his fault either.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Feb 10 @ 12:17 PM ET
Anyone see those pics of TK and Sanheim on vacation? Those 2 are cut. They must work out a lot.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 10 @ 12:18 PM ET
He did and no player responded for over 5 seconds!
- jd250


What do you think Yeo did, yell for any player to get out there?


You talk about playing the game.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Feb 10 @ 12:19 PM ET
Where is the right place in his defensive coverage?
- MJL

I don't know, maybe somewhere at least below the face off dots would be a good start
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Feb 10 @ 12:19 PM ET
I would prefer Torts. He would speak his mind and make things entertaining at least. I could see him telling the media to ask Chuck why he thinks an AHL team should win games in the NHL. The entertainment factor would be off the charts and would take this franchise from a legend in its own mind to entertaining reality TV.
- iamscore2day

I cant see any quality coach wanting to come here unless it is a sweet money deal.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Feb 10 @ 12:19 PM ET
And of course, this is the coaches fault also! Come to think of it, on my beer league team we rarely have any issues with line changes and we don't have coaches behind us on the bench. Hmmmm .. how could this be possible I wonder? Oh, that's right, we actually communicate with each other and are paying attention to the game!
- jd250


It is on the player. But it’s pretty obvious one of the 3 coaches on the bench need to be on it as well. It’s literally what they are there for. To be fair it’s a new group on the bench, but I agree our beer league also does a better job.
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