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Not_Yan
St Louis Blues
Location: it's an excellent product, easier, quicker, and even better than real mashed potatoes.
Joined: 04.19.2013

Feb 10 @ 2:52 PM ET
There has to be something cognitively broken if you accept a head coaching job in the NHL without any real coaching experience.
- Mashadar


How about getting over it?
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Feb 10 @ 2:52 PM ET
...because...
- Takemedrunkimhome


I'm sure there are all kinds of answers that could change your mind...



Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Feb 10 @ 2:53 PM ET
We've let the negative nancies run wild for too long Pat. We had nothing to fight them off.

This ends today. The Gorton/Hughes/St-Louis era will be GREAT.

- Scabeh


I (frank)ing hope so..!!


Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Feb 10 @ 2:56 PM ET
...because...
- Takemedrunkimhome


Because I decided to believe in them until they give me a reason not to instead of doing the opposite.
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin! - EK
Joined: 08.31.2014

Feb 10 @ 2:57 PM ET
this is never going to end, is it... lol
- Pat1993


I actually have nothing against MSL.

I just don't think it was in their plan to have MSL as head coach. They expected DD to last until the end of the season and make the change in the season. But things just got to a point where that was not possible.

Here is what I believe:

1) MSL was in discussions to join the organization, probably in the role somewhere in Player Development. And maybe even as an assistant coach for the rest of the season to help provide input to on-ice organization changes.

2) poop hit the fan and they had no one to put in as coach, so they rolled the dice with MSL - to essentially do the same job they wanted from him (see point 1), but also made him head coach.

Is MSL the long-term answer? Of course they are all going to say "yes" to that today, otherwise they look ridiculous. Maybe it works out, maybe it does not. Maybe the team is so bad, no one really notices the difference.

Bottom line, if they send guys down to Laval for proper coaching/development and then let MSL see what he has on the roster to work with for the rest of the season - who needs to go, change, etc... - I am good with that.

But I do not have high expectations from a guy with virtually zero coaching experience.


Takemedrunkimhome
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 03.08.2018

Feb 10 @ 2:59 PM ET
I'm sure there are all kinds of answers that could change your mind...




- Pat1993

There is no reason MSL can't be the greatest coach ever and if it's only interim coaching for the rest of the year, who really cares anyway? But it is hard to argue the whole process doesn't seem a little unusual. That doesn't mean it can't or won't work out. Simply it just seems like the process is pretty questionable and that makes for concern that it will be less likely to produce a positive outcome.
Takemedrunkimhome
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 03.08.2018

Feb 10 @ 3:00 PM ET
I actually have nothing against MSL.

I just don't think it was in their plan to have MSL as head coach. They expected DD to last until the end of the season and make the change in the season. But things just got to a point where that was not possible.

Here is what I believe:

1) MSL was in discussions to join the organization, probably in the role somewhere in Player Development. And maybe even as an assistant coach for the rest of the season to help provide input to on-ice organization changes.

2) poop hit the fan and they had no one to put in as coach, so they rolled the dice with MSL - to essentially do the same job they wanted from him (see point 1), but also made him head coach.

Is MSL the long-term answer? Of course they are all going to say "yes" to that today, otherwise they look ridiculous. Maybe it works out, maybe it does not. Maybe the team is so bad, no one really notices the difference.

Bottom line, if they send guys down to Laval for proper coaching/development and then let MSL see what he has on the roster to work with for the rest of the season - who needs to go, change, etc... - I am good with that.

But I do not have high expectations from a guy with virtually zero coaching experience.

- Mashadar

More or less my thoughts as well
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Feb 10 @ 3:04 PM ET
I actually have nothing against MSL.

I just don't think it was in their plan to have MSL as head coach. They expected DD to last until the end of the season and make the change in the season. But things just got to a point where that was not possible.

Here is what I believe:

1) MSL was in discussions to join the organization, probably in the role somewhere in Player Development. And maybe even as an assistant coach for the rest of the season to help provide input to on-ice organization changes.

2) poop hit the fan and they had no one to put in as coach, so they rolled the dice with MSL - to essentially do the same job they wanted from him (see point 1), but also made him head coach.

Is MSL the long-term answer? Of course they are all going to say "yes" to that today, otherwise they look ridiculous. Maybe it works out, maybe it does not. Maybe the team is so bad, no one really notices the difference.

Bottom line, if they send guys down to Laval for proper coaching/development and then let MSL see what he has on the roster to work with for the rest of the season - who needs to go, change, etc... - I am good with that.

But I do not have high expectations from a guy with virtually zero coaching experience.

- Mashadar


not a bad assessment of the situation. but you have to admit it would've been silly for STL to say "nah guys, I don't want this opportunity, I'm just not ready...". of course he'll say yes. I don't really know what to expect, but it isn't like the habs had a whole lot to lose with this, and who knows, it might just work... I think the most pressing thing for them was to get rid of DD, who was clearly going nowhere with the team.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Feb 10 @ 3:06 PM ET
There is no reason MSL can't be the greatest coach ever and if it's only interim coaching for the rest of the year, who really cares anyway? But it is hard to argue the whole process doesn't seem a little unusual. That doesn't mean it can't or won't work out. Simply it just seems like the process is pretty questionable and that makes for concern that it will be less likely to produce a positive outcome.
- Takemedrunkimhome


it's in-your-face outside-the-box thinking.
Takemedrunkimhome
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 03.08.2018

Feb 10 @ 3:10 PM ET
it's in-your-face outside-the-box thinking.
- Pat1993



There's no way to italic a gif but obviously kidding
Habsolute009
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 12.09.2010

Feb 10 @ 3:12 PM ET
I feel like doubting the guy who's proven doubters wrong his whole life is not being on the right side of history.

- Scabeh


The man has never coached at any legit level. This hiring is beyond stupid, but it is what it is. This organization has been a mess for most of my lifetime. I’m just glad I have 93 to remember.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Feb 10 @ 3:12 PM ET


There's no way to italic a gif but obviously kidding

- Takemedrunkimhome



ganou60
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Hampton, NB
Joined: 07.25.2008

Feb 10 @ 3:14 PM ET
He can't make the team look any worse. They are as bad as they can get. They are so bad right now the Leafs might even be able to beat them. Nah even this bad we would beat them They have nothing to lose Martin is loved by everyone wish him luck and if he has to lace them up worked for the Chiefs
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Feb 10 @ 3:17 PM ET
do we have it all figured out yet?
Takemedrunkimhome
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 03.08.2018

Feb 10 @ 3:22 PM ET
do we have it all figured out yet?
- kicksave856

At least it was about hockey
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Feb 10 @ 3:24 PM ET
At least it was about hockey
- Takemedrunkimhome

that's true.
Gramps28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Double poop your best players everyone!, IL
Joined: 07.09.2014

Feb 10 @ 3:29 PM ET
I prefer 3rd string QB or 17th man on a major footy team.
- AdamFrench

last guy on a nba team makes far more.
Gramps28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Double poop your best players everyone!, IL
Joined: 07.09.2014

Feb 10 @ 3:30 PM ET
do we have it all figured out yet?
- kicksave856

define "it*
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Feb 10 @ 3:34 PM ET
define "it*
- Gramps28

the meaning of life
Gramps28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Double poop your best players everyone!, IL
Joined: 07.09.2014

Feb 10 @ 3:37 PM ET
the meaning of life
- kicksave856

gotta ask curly
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Feb 10 @ 3:40 PM ET
gotta ask curly
- Gramps28

i don't watch a lot of movies but i know what you're talking about this time!
Gramps28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Double poop your best players everyone!, IL
Joined: 07.09.2014

Feb 10 @ 3:41 PM ET
i don't watch a lot of movies but i know what you're talking about this time!
- kicksave856

*faints*
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Feb 10 @ 3:41 PM ET
*faints*
- Gramps28

they're on horses, right?
Habshistory
Montreal Canadiens
Location: NS
Joined: 10.19.2016

Feb 10 @ 3:44 PM ET
We would have been mad if they hired an old veteran coach, mad if it was Roy, mad if he wasn't French and mad if he was a new up and comer outside of who we thought it should be. End of the day we're going to question everything about it, and ironically only time will tell if this works. Let's see what happens. I think he can do it.... with some time and early forgiveness for what will likely be some rookie mistakes. But, it can't be worse. Like honestly, it can't. Ducharme had the worst individual season winning percentage in the history of the habs. So, it's at least looking likely that MSL won't be the worst coach we've had, even though he is only peewee experienced lol.
Xizord
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I am Eklund, QC
Joined: 01.03.2007

Feb 10 @ 3:44 PM ET


Good, ça veut dire que St-Louis va sûrement être bon.

- stinger67


C'est qui Laraque Gonzalez ?
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