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It’s all about your pessimism when they are yet to make any on ice moves. JR only been here a couple months. He said he’ll assess the team. He’s filled up the front office bigger than ever before. That is all that has happened. Let the hires settle in & wait for what is to come. Fair?
On another note the Oil have been dysfunctional in their front office for many many years. On ice it’s cap allocation & a poorly built team. No goaltending cannot be fixed keeping it status quo.
We’ve a brand spanking new front office led by an old seasoned Pres. He at least has embarked on a new & pioneering approach. He has sliced up the pie & delegated roles & has gotten fresh perspectives from these hires instead of consensus ass kissers.
It’s always better to be diverse to avoid the trappings of single mindedness. The only single minded goal is winning & not the who & how they get there. Nobody cares about off ice if the on ice gets the results. It has only just begun… - Nighthawk
Sorry If I don't take you serious about your comment . Your endless pessimism about Petey is fine but my pessimism is annoying
Questioning one's factual history and background does not mean I am hoping it fails. Sorry if I don't have blind trust just because they are new faces. |
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I'm also skeptical about Clancey and Allvin, they basically got hired because they're JR's boys. Like what are the odds that Allvin just happened to be the best person for the job and also happened to be JR's boy? Pretty wild coincidence.
Not saying that this management group will fail, but let's not pretend like they really went out with the mindset of hiring the most impressive candidates with zero bias involved. - Nucker101
What world do you live in that zero bias is even conceptually possible?! Jim hand picked Allvin, just like Yzerman continually grabs the same guys and guys he knows. It's hardly rare, Presidents and Gm's hire people they are familiar with more often than not in all sports.
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What world do you live in that zero bias is even conceptually possible?! Jim hand picked Allvin, just like Yzerman continually grabs the same guys and guys he knows. It's hardly rare, Presidents and Gm's hire people they are familiar with more often than not in all sports. - neem55
Detroit are 21 st in the league
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Nighthawk
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Location: Canuckville, BC Joined: 01.09.2015
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That has been questioned before . Are these really the best hiring's available or are the Canucks filling a quota.
I do feel they had an agenda so I don't think these are the best hiring's. Again it is only my opinion nothing else. - VANTEL
The front office is redesigned.
Who were better to hire?
Quota? This is a novel dart to toss lol |
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The front office is redesigned.
Who were better to hire?
Quota? This is a novel dart to toss lol - Nighthawk
Petey
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Nighthawk
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Location: Canuckville, BC Joined: 01.09.2015
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Sorry If I don't take you serious about your comment . Your endless pessimism about Petey is fine but my pessimism is annoying
Questioning one's factual history and background does not mean I am hoping it fails. Sorry if I don't have blind trust just because they are new faces. - VANTEL
FYI it wasn’t Petey pessimism. He was sucking & I said so. Fact
Have you seen further posts from me since he has started to show he’s worth is 7m+?
Your pessimism on new hires has no basis. You chose to be critical without any of them given the chance. You have no trust & I simply am not going to predict anything nor rail on about them. I choose to wait & see. Did the same with JB & Green. When they were the problem I brought out the axe. |
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Location: Not Quesnel, BC Joined: 10.11.2005
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What world do you live in that zero bias is even conceptually possible?! Jim hand picked Allvin, just like Yzerman continually grabs the same guys and guys he knows. It's hardly rare, Presidents and Gm's hire people they are familiar with more often than not in all sports. - neem55
Can't see where Nucker even suggested this... wtf
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FYI it wasn’t Petey pessimism. He was sucking & I said so. Fact
Have you seen further posts from me since he has started to show he’s worth is 7m+?
Your pessimism on new hires has no basis. You chose to be critical without any of them given the chance. You have no trust & I simply am not going to predict anything nor rail on about them. I choose to wait & see. Did the same with JB & Green. When they were the problem I brought out the axe. - Nighthawk
Maybe they should have hired you seeing you are so insightful and sunshine blows up your ass every day
I listed his 10 year draft history but yeah no basis. |
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Location: Billings Spit, BC Joined: 09.22.2019
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Maybe they should have hired you seeing you are so insightful and sunshine blows up your ass every day - VANTEL
And this is the guy you want to beat me in the pool? |
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And this is the guy you want to beat me in the pool? - Load Management
I was upset that you didn't recognize Podz is on the second line.
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Location: Auckland -Burn it all down Joined: 10.22.2008
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How crazy is it that the Oilers munched through Tom Renney, Todd McLellan, Dave Tippett and Ken Hitchcock over the past few years and haven't been able to address their goaltending.
Either Holland is a moron or the other GMs are all playing hardball with their trade offers.
I expect Holland pays through the nose for a backup G at the TDL.
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Load Management
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I was upset that you didn't recognize Podz is on the second line. - VANTEL
I figure his recent trip to the press box balances things out. Technically, he didn't even make bottom 6 that night. |
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I figure his recent trip to the press box balances things out. Technically, he didn't even make bottom 6 that night. - Load Management
According to NH Petey was bottom six last week top 6 this week .
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Location: Billings Spit, BC Joined: 09.22.2019
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According to NH Petey was bottom six last week top 6 this week . - VANTEL
So middle six then? |
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Load Management
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Location: Billings Spit, BC Joined: 09.22.2019
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How crazy is it that the Oilers munched through Tom Renney, Todd McLellan, Dave Tippett and Ken Hitchcock over the past few years and haven't been able to address their goaltending.
Either Holland is a moron or the other GMs are all playing hardball with their trade offers.
I expect Holland pays through the nose for a backup G at the TDL.
- dbot
So much for joint custody of "our boi". We're past halfway through the season and you don't want anything to do with him? What do you suppose I should tell our angry little elf when he asks why his other Dad doesn't want to spend quality time with him? |
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Nighthawk
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Location: Canuckville, BC Joined: 01.09.2015
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Maybe they should have hired you seeing you are so insightful and sunshine blows up your ass every day
I listed his 10 year draft history but yeah no basis. - VANTEL
Sunshine blows up my ass everyday if I allow the day to come. There is no point in crying about spilt milk that is not pertinent to the now. I won’t blame JR & Allvin for their 2 & 3 cups. Also no blame for another PO run from their old team. |
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So middle six then? - Load Management
We will split the difference second line
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Sunshine blows up my ass everyday if I allow the day to come. There is no point in crying about spilt milk that is not pertinent to the now. I won’t blame JR & Allvin for their 2 & 3 cups. Also no blame for another PO run from their old team. - Nighthawk
Holland has how many cups? Holland bad JR good
I liked you more when you were whining about Petey every hour. |
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Nighthawk
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Location: Canuckville, BC Joined: 01.09.2015
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And this is the guy you want to beat me in the pool? - Load Management
Should I stop stocking your roster? 😂 |
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Imagine the uproar if they hire a female zamboni driver. It doesn't matter who they hire this team isn't winning a cup. |
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Nighthawk
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Location: Canuckville, BC Joined: 01.09.2015
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According to NH Petey was bottom six last week top 6 this week . - VANTEL
BS you’re daft in that misquote. |
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Nighthawk
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Location: Canuckville, BC Joined: 01.09.2015
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Holland has how many cups? Holland bad JR good
I liked you more when you were whining about Petey every hour. - VANTEL
You can have Holland 👍
As for Petey he gotten a pass from me yet. Paid as a core player & open game good or bad. |
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Nighthawk
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Location: Canuckville, BC Joined: 01.09.2015
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Imagine the uproar if they hire a female zamboni driver. It doesn't matter who they hire this team isn't winning a cup. - A_SteamingLombardi
You know it especially if from a losing team their experience will be in question. |
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Location: Billings Spit, BC Joined: 09.22.2019
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Should I stop stocking your roster? 😂 - Nighthawk
I think everyone in the pool has a Rosterhawk special. I'm up to 3 I think. |
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Nighthawk
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Location: Canuckville, BC Joined: 01.09.2015
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I think everyone in the pool has a Rosterhawk special. I'm up to 3 I think. - Load Management
My pick ups from drops McAvoy Dahlin Byram suit me fine. |
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