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jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Feb 12 @ 9:59 PM ET
I don’t think TK got hurt but I may have missed something.

Nothing in Brassard other than he wasn’t ready to go.

- hereticpride

Yeo said he was sore after the previous game so he decided to give him a few more days rest just to be cautious.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Feb 12 @ 10:35 PM ET
Yeo said he was sore after the previous game so he decided to give him a few more days rest just to be cautious.
- jd250


Well, that’s better than the alternatives.
Don Nachbaur
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.01.2021

Feb 12 @ 10:42 PM ET
This team has been mismanaged for 10 plus years. No reason to expect that to change any time soon. It shouldn't be this hard. They cannot judge talent, their coaching has been awful. I guess tge hockey gods are taking revenge at long last for the bullies
- DANCER


Absolutely agree here! We are now the "lowly flyers." So depressing to see what this team has become. I've seen many bad teams over the years but this group is pathetic.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Feb 12 @ 11:07 PM ET
That’s what scares me. Fletcher has a long track record of being ineffective at managing a hockey organization
- Shrike

we'll find out in the next month if they're competent enough to turn this around
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Feb 12 @ 11:35 PM ET
Bill Meltzer: Flyers Gameday: 2/12/2022 @ DET
- bmeltzer


Bill,

Honestly would you do the Ellis trade again?
Hesh_
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.29.2013

Feb 13 @ 12:45 AM ET
i find it hard to get to upset with the team since they're playing to expectations now

i expect fletcher to make trades and for us to be in the top 5 at the end of the season

- 2Real

It’ll all come down to ping pong balls anyway
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Feb 13 @ 1:03 AM ET
It’s amazing with how crappy this team has been they’re still likely picking 6th or 7th right now.
- hereticpride


Ottawa and Buffalo are 2 points back with games in hand. We can ideally drop as far as 4th if they pass us. We have 1 game on Seattle but they are 2 points back of us as well. 3rd is potentially the best we can do before the lottery. Habs and Coyotes are just too bad. MTL about to hit 10 game losing streak. We only play MTL two more times so they can only gain 4 points beating us
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Feb 13 @ 4:47 AM ET
MJL you actually archive your posts? Must say I find that a bit, um, unusual.
- DANCER

Mjl is bill. He archives everything he writes. Not unusual at all actually
black_francis
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bumfuck, NJ
Joined: 01.10.2015

Feb 13 @ 5:19 AM ET
If there’s one thing the flyers have shown they are willing to do is move on from a mistake i.e. Bryz.

It may sting but we need to buy out Kevin Hayes. He will never return to the way he played in year 1. Book it.

I heard rumblings last year that the team was divided - giroux clique and Hayes clique. Buyout Hayes, ship out Yandle and find a taker for Konecny. Say goodbye to JVR, Brassard etc.

Don’t trade Giroux. Have him stay on a team friendly cap hit. I am not done watching him with Atkinson. I want to see these two on the flyers for the next 5 years. With the right supporting cast I think you can win with them.

If you can’t get a first rounder for Risto then go forward with Ellis, Provy, Sanheim, Risto, York, Zamula and if Braun is slotted correctly then keep him too.

I wanna see Allison and Mcewan as our new bash brothers
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 13 @ 6:59 AM ET
Next 3 games are Penguins, Caps, Canes. Time to go streaking again.
This season can't end soon enough.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Feb 13 @ 7:26 AM ET
Next 3 games are Penguins, Caps, Canes. Time to go streaking again.
This season can't end soon enough.

- PLindbergh31

Yes, I can see another 10 game losing streak on the horizon for sure. Actually for me though, the trade dead line can't come soon enough.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Feb 13 @ 7:35 AM ET
The Makar (or Heiskanen, actually) thing is not revisionist hstory. Chris Therien and I were upstairs at the Skate Zone shooting the breeze with a Flyers scout several years ago -- while Patrick was still very much part of the plan here -- and he told us the consensus was that the defensemen were going to be better NHL players at their positions than Patrick as a C. Hexy (and, I guess, Sarge) were homed in on Patrick. But the same scout pointed out that the internal ranking in 2011 had Brodin at the top and that Homer (right after trading Richards and Carter) insisted that it be reconsidered (Couturier then moved to the top). This discussion was after Couturier was coming off a 30 goal season. The scout noted that 2011 worked out great and that Patrick could ultimately justify Hexy's decision.

The only real difference was that Homer involved the scouts (a less favorable description would be "twisted arms") to get another discussion where Couturier being a C got him a little stronger consideration whereas Hexy allegedly just went with his own gut feeling that Patrick's flat-line development between under-age and draft season was solely injury related.

That's what get lost in the whole revisiting of the 2017 Draft. The GM/AGM get the final say, rightfully so.

- bmeltzer

Yes, Hextall and Sarge had the final say, that was their right. And as fans it is absolutely our right to completely crucify them for that pick, because it has significantly set this franchise back many years! Not you, but many laud Hextall as a great GM and drafting guru, but the facts don't come close to bearing that out, this being the most glaring example. Some crucify Clarke for making this public like he did last month, but I applaud him for doing so. Clarke was honest (at least to his recollection) and demonstrated courage which is why his teammates would follow him into a volcano. Clarke was and is a winner, something Hextall never was or is!
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 13 @ 7:47 AM ET
Yes, Hextall and Sarge had the final say, that was their right. And as fans it is absolutely our right to completely crucify them for that pick, because it has significantly set this franchise back many years! Not you, but many laud Hextall as a great GM and drafting guru, but the facts don't come close to bearing that out, this being the most glaring example. Some crucify Clarke for making this public like he did last month, but I applaud him for doing so. Clarke was honest (at least to his recollection) and demonstrated courage which is why his teammates would follow him into a volcano. Clarke was and is a winner, something Hextall never was or is!
- jd250


it seems as though you are lacking facts. First of all I don't know of anyone nor have I read any NHL pundit labeling Hextall as a great GM and drafting guru. That is complete hyperbole on your part. Clarke was just trying to protect his buddy and his actions are another example of why this franchise is in the position they're in. So applaud him all you want. Hextall was a Vezina trophy and Conn Smythe winner, a 5 time all star and a member of the Flyers hall of fame. He is an NHL exec and team GM. Yea, what a loser.
This is just another in a long line of poorly thought out posts from you.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 13 @ 8:19 AM ET
Yes, I can see another 10 game losing streak on the horizon for sure. Actually for me though, the trade dead line can't come soon enough.
- jd250


Nothing to be excited about there. Prepare to be underwhelmed.
THE BLACK HAND
Joined: 06.09.2021

Feb 13 @ 8:34 AM ET
Yes, Hextall and Sarge had the final say, that was their right. And as fans it is absolutely our right to completely crucify them for that pick, because it has significantly set this franchise back many years! Not you, but many laud Hextall as a great GM and drafting guru, but the facts don't come close to bearing that out, this being the most glaring example. Some crucify Clarke for making this public like he did last month, but I applaud him for doing so. Clarke was honest (at least to his recollection) and demonstrated courage which is why his teammates would follow him into a volcano. Clarke was and is a winner, something Hextall never was or is!
- jd250


hahahaha....moron
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Feb 13 @ 8:36 AM ET
If there’s one thing the flyers have shown they are willing to do is move on from a mistake i.e. Bryz.

It may sting but we need to buy out Kevin Hayes. He will never return to the way he played in year 1. Book it.

I heard rumblings last year that the team was divided - giroux clique and Hayes clique. Buyout Hayes, ship out Yandle and find a taker for Konecny. Say goodbye to JVR, Brassard etc.

Don’t trade Giroux. Have him stay on a team friendly cap hit. I am not done watching him with Atkinson. I want to see these two on the flyers for the next 5 years. With the right supporting cast I think you can win with them.

If you can’t get a first rounder for Risto then go forward with Ellis, Provy, Sanheim, Risto, York, Zamula and if Braun is slotted correctly then keep him too.

I wanna see Allison and Mcewan as our new bash brothers

- black_francis

They absolutely need to move Giroux for a pick. They need to take all the chances on developing high end talent they can. G is 34 and at this point we will never win with him.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Feb 13 @ 8:47 AM ET
it seems as though you are lacking facts. First of all I don't know of anyone nor have I read any NHL pundit labeling Hextall as a great GM and drafting guru. That is complete hyperbole on your part. Clarke was just trying to protect his buddy and his actions are another example of why this franchise is in the position they're in. So applaud him all you want. Hextall was a Vezina trophy and Conn Smythe winner, a 5 time all star and a member of the Flyers hall of fame. He is an NHL exec and team GM. Yea, what a loser.
This is just another in a long line of poorly thought out posts from you.

- MJL

Hmm, what was it you were saying
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 13 @ 9:05 AM ET
Hmm, what was it you were saying
- ClaudeFather



Hmmm, you have never read a post from me labeling Hextall as a great GM in any manner whatsoever.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Feb 13 @ 9:11 AM ET
Hmmm, you have never read a post from me labeling Hextall as a great GM in any manner whatsoever.
- MJL

Get the archives out lol
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Feb 13 @ 9:15 AM ET
Yup big minutes



Flyers prospect Cam York will miss at least 2 games; Morgan Frost (ill) and Linus Sandin also sidelined
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 13 @ 9:17 AM ET
Get the archives out lol
- ClaudeFather


Yes, since you have something to say, get them out.
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Feb 13 @ 10:26 AM ET
USA! USA! USA!
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Feb 13 @ 10:29 AM ET
Yes, I can see another 10 game losing streak on the horizon for sure. Actually for me though, the trade dead line can't come soon enough.
- jd250


Chuckles will be successful at this years deadline? What makes you think that? History tells us he will get bent over by every gm he talks to
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Feb 13 @ 10:37 AM ET
Chuckles will be successful at this years deadline? What makes you think that? History tells us he will get bent over by every gm he talks to
- corduroy

Folks have really high expectations for Gs return, there will be no pleasing this fan base whether it’s a good trade or not
konalover711
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PHX, AZ
Joined: 10.20.2015

Feb 13 @ 10:41 AM ET
Looking forward on rest of Feb schedule, we should be able to string together another losing streak till March 1 easily.
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