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Isleshockeyman
New York Islanders
Location: Lou is our savior
Joined: 11.05.2014

Feb 18 @ 9:14 AM ET
What’s with the losing attitude. (frank) that. Route for The Yotes
- nyisles7


Have you checked the standings? They're in 25th place in the league and are 2 games below .500. The season is over. We're all rooting for the Isles. Now it's just looking toward next year. And, has been stated, a higher draft pick is better. It's not a losing attitude, it's looking toward the future.
Now watch, they'll get on a hot streak, get the last wild card, make it through 3 rounds and then win the cup in 5 games. 7 would never let any of us live it down that we were talking about next year.
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Feb 18 @ 9:14 AM ET
I know I hate the guy.. but not having a guy like Bailey giving the puck away all friggin game certainly helps the constitency with this team. You had 4 lines of guys that were all skating, playing physical, crashing the net and shooting the friggin puck.

Chara still stinks.
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Feb 18 @ 9:15 AM ET
Have you checked the standings? They're in 25th place in the league and are 2 games below .500. The season is over. We're all rooting for the Isles. Now it's just looking toward next year. And, has been stated, a higher draft pick is better. It's not a losing attitude, it's looking toward the future.
Now watch, they'll get on a hot streak, get the last wild card, make it through 3 rounds and then win the cup in 5 games. 7 would never let any of us live it down that we were talking about next year.

- Isleshockeyman


Shocked there is still 7 teams worse.
Isleshockeyman
New York Islanders
Location: Lou is our savior
Joined: 11.05.2014

Feb 18 @ 9:16 AM ET
MSG+ replaying the game at 10 am. If you are bored and sitting at a desk (like me)..

As much as that wasn't a good goal by Sorokin, both Casey and Aho let the guy skate right by them... when we hit them we got the puck out right away. When we did the dopey Reach with stick idiocy they kept it in our zone forever.

- niteislander


Getting skated by has happened all season. Mostly defensemen, but sometimes forwards too. Same with opponents keeping the puck in our zone for extended periods. Our guys just aren't quick enough or in good enough position to break up passes and get out of the zone.
Isleshockeyman
New York Islanders
Location: Lou is our savior
Joined: 11.05.2014

Feb 18 @ 9:20 AM ET
Shocked there is still 7 teams worse.
- niteislander


Well, Montreal only has 9 wins.
Oddly enough, the Islanders are 3rd best in the league in goals against with only 123. But are 2nd worst in goals for with 109. Hard to win games when you don't score more than your opponent.
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Feb 18 @ 9:32 AM ET
Dobson is showing signs that he can be legit. Still not quite there yet but it looks very good. Next generation Dober, Wally, Bellzy.
- Nfdbulldawg

Good thing. Noah was awful in the Buffalo game.
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Feb 18 @ 9:34 AM ET
I know I hate the guy.. but not having a guy like Bailey giving the puck away all friggin game certainly helps the constitency with this team. You had 4 lines of guys that were all skating, playing physical, crashing the net and shooting the friggin puck.

Chara still stinks.

- niteislander

Taking odds on Barry putting Bailey right back on Barzy's wing when he returns.
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Feb 18 @ 9:39 AM ET
Dobson is showing signs that he can be legit. Still not quite there yet but it looks very good. Next generation Dober, Wally, Bellzy.
- Nfdbulldawg

Offensively ge is very good but still needs to work on his play in the d zone. I think he will get there and be our top pp qb for a long time
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Feb 18 @ 9:39 AM ET
What’s with the losing attitude. (frank) that. Route for The Yotes
- nyisles7

It's a weird feeling where one side of me will always root and hope for the best while the realist knows this team has no shot this season.
What's best for this team at this stage is a retool, which would likely be more aggressive with more losses than wins. This year's draft is loaded with talent in the first 10-12 picks and we stand to gain much more by being in that group than finishing 6 points out of a playoff spot and galvanizing Lou to think the teams issues only require minor tweaks
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Feb 18 @ 10:12 AM ET
Have you checked the standings? They're in 25th place in the league and are 2 games below .500. The season is over. We're all rooting for the Isles. Now it's just looking toward next year. And, has been stated, a higher draft pick is better. It's not a losing attitude, it's looking toward the future.
Now watch, they'll get on a hot streak, get the last wild card, make it through 3 rounds and then win the cup in 5 games. 7 would never let any of us live it down that we were talking about next year.

- Isleshockeyman



I’m never a lose on purpose guy. Just never can wrap my head around it.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Feb 18 @ 10:22 AM ET
It's a weird feeling where one side of me will always root and hope for the best while the realist knows this team has no shot this season.
What's best for this team at this stage is a retool, which would likely be more aggressive with more losses than wins. This year's draft is loaded with talent in the first 10-12 picks and we stand to gain much more by being in that group than finishing 6 points out of a playoff spot and galvanizing Lou to think the teams issues only require minor tweaks

- keaner17


I get your point for sure but just can’t route for my team to lose. I do believe the team only needs to retool a bit and doesn’t need a major rebuild. The long road trip to start the season, then Covid and the injuries in my opinion derailed the team and they could never find their rhythm. They have been behind all season long trying to catch up and it’s hard to do. I think the core of this team is capable of winning in my opinion.
Isleshockeyman
New York Islanders
Location: Lou is our savior
Joined: 11.05.2014

Feb 18 @ 10:33 AM ET

I’m never a lose on purpose guy. Just never can wrap my head around it.

- nyisles7


Nor am I but if they lose and get a higher draft pick out of it, I'm ok with it since it would be extremely difficult to make the playoffs right now.
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Feb 18 @ 11:21 AM ET
I get your point for sure but just can’t route for my team to lose. I do believe the team only needs to retool a bit and doesn’t need a major rebuild. The long road trip to start the season, then Covid and the injuries in my opinion derailed the team and they could never find their rhythm. They have been behind all season long trying to catch up and it’s hard to do. I think the core of this team is capable of winning in my opinion.
- nyisles7


It's an empty feeling at this point. They score and I cheer...the game ends with victory and it's sorta 'meh'. I don't think we need to blow things up by any means but we definitely need to reconsider a few things and change 4-5 roster spots, which may not be a rebuild but could be significant.
One stark difference to the NHL today compared to Lou's glory years in NJ is the openness of the game. It was purposely changed to free the skill and speed from smothering defenses. If you're going to keep searching for system strong players over skilled ones, you have to at least make sure you're fast enough to combat their skill with your speed. (This is all obvious, I know)
There are more than a couple of players on this team that aren't up to that task anymore. Lou may have to learn to change some of his philosophy a bit on just what players fit the team needs
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Feb 18 @ 11:22 AM ET
Nor am I but if they lose and get a higher draft pick out of it, I'm ok with it since it would be extremely difficult to make the playoffs right now.
- Isleshockeyman

Yea I want to see them win but getting a higher pick this year means more wins in the future so you have to ask yourself are they going to make the playoffs 16pts out at this stage of the season? 80% no so may as well tank and get the best player possible
kasperrko
New York Islanders
Location: Spring Hill, FL
Joined: 03.09.2007

Feb 18 @ 11:25 AM ET

I’m never a lose on purpose guy. Just never can wrap my head around it.

- nyisles7


It’s stupid and Trotz is not going to let that happen and either are the players. If you do that just forfeit the season. Until they are really out of playoffs Barry is going to put his best line up to win games
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Feb 18 @ 11:32 AM ET
It’s stupid and Trotz is not going to let that happen and either are the players. If you do that just forfeit the season. Until they are really out of playoffs Barry is going to put his best line up to win games
- kasperrko

I don't expect Barry to do anything less, nor Lou for that matter. It's not in their DNA to stop competing. Unfortunately and to their detriment I also think it's unlikely that they'll turn to playing the younger players more than usual. They'll go full speed ahead and evaluate at the end of the year.
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Feb 18 @ 11:38 AM ET
It’s stupid and Trotz is not going to let that happen and either are the players. If you do that just forfeit the season. Until they are really out of playoffs Barry is going to put his best line up to win games
- kasperrko

Yea I mean no one really tanks but a higher pick would be better. They will play it out and the chips will fall where they may
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Feb 18 @ 12:17 PM ET
It's an empty feeling at this point. They score and I cheer...the game ends with victory and it's sorta 'meh'. I don't think we need to blow things up by any means but we definitely need to reconsider a few things and change 4-5 roster spots, which may not be a rebuild but could be significant.
One stark difference to the NHL today compared to Lou's glory years in NJ is the openness of the game. It was purposely changed to free the skill and speed from smothering defenses. If you're going to keep searching for system strong players over skilled ones, you have to at least make sure you're fast enough to combat their skill with your speed. (This is all obvious, I know)
There are more than a couple of players on this team that aren't up to that task anymore. Lou may have to learn to change some of his philosophy a bit on just what players fit the team needs

- keaner17


All good points.
I do feel there’s a core group of players in their primes at this point. 29,27,18,13,3,6,24,8,44 are a pretty capable group. Going to be interesting what Lou and Barry do if and when
they fall out of PO contention. That said Lou has a good foundation to retool.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Feb 18 @ 12:22 PM ET
It’s stupid and Trotz is not going to let that happen and either are the players. If you do that just forfeit the season. Until they are really out of playoffs Barry is going to put his best line up to win games
- kasperrko


Agreed and as it should be done
Isleshockeyman
New York Islanders
Location: Lou is our savior
Joined: 11.05.2014

Feb 18 @ 1:49 PM ET
It’s stupid and Trotz is not going to let that happen and either are the players. If you do that just forfeit the season. Until they are really out of playoffs Barry is going to put his best line up to win games
- kasperrko


Even when they are "mathematically" eliminated from playoff contention, I don't think even then he's going to stop trying to win games. He may play the younger guys a bit more, but he won't stop trying to win.
JimmyP
New York Islanders
Location: Snow has melted!
Joined: 02.12.2011

Feb 18 @ 3:14 PM ET
Even when they are "mathematically" eliminated from playoff contention, I don't think even then he's going to stop trying to win games. He may play the younger guys a bit more, but he won't stop trying to win.
- Isleshockeyman


I don't think any coach or gm stops trying to win and they shouldn't. It would be disrespectful to the players, the fans and the league. The closest they come is trading away players to try to rebuild. Even then they still try to win.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Feb 18 @ 8:06 PM ET
Even when they are "mathematically" eliminated from playoff contention, I don't think even then he's going to stop trying to win games. He may play the younger guys a bit more, but he won't stop trying to win.
- Isleshockeyman


You betcha!
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