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ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Feb 17 @ 9:38 PM ET
Lmaoo
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Feb 17 @ 9:38 PM ET
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Feb 17 @ 9:38 PM ET
Its amazing ... absolutely amazing.
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Feb 17 @ 9:38 PM ET
Hahahahaha
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Feb 17 @ 9:38 PM ET
Does Yeo have any concept of shortening the bench??
- jd250

does it really matter if we're not going for the playoffs?
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Feb 17 @ 9:39 PM ET
2 pieces away people , that’s all
rayc16
Joined: 06.29.2006

Feb 17 @ 9:39 PM ET
Like Clockwork. Flyers have the lead until I start watching.

Doing god's work

- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Looks like Provy is doing god’s work
THE EVIL WITHIN
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Feb 17 @ 9:39 PM ET
🤡 💩 💩 💩
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Feb 17 @ 9:40 PM ET
Nice! If Giroux can get another point before the game ends that would be great
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Feb 17 @ 9:40 PM ET
Good teams find ways to win and bad teams find ways to lose. Flyers just flat out f@cking suck.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Feb 17 @ 9:41 PM ET
i gave the finger to the tv walked out of the room and it's 5-3
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Feb 17 @ 9:41 PM ET
Are teams just playing with the Flyers ... let the Flyers think they are in the entire game, even take a lead, and then they start playing and win anytime they want? it certainly seems that way to me. I mean, these Flyers are looking more and more like the pre 2004 Red Sox.
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Feb 17 @ 9:42 PM ET
This delay…who the (frank) cares? Just call it.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Feb 17 @ 9:44 PM ET
The Flyers are playing their butts off, but after these last two games, I wouldn't be surprised if they packed it in. I mean this is tough to deal with game after game.
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Feb 17 @ 9:52 PM ET
It’s what we want right? Playing better but still in good draft position
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Feb 17 @ 9:53 PM ET
Would you guys prefer the insipid losses of the losing streaks or fighting losses of late leads blown like past 2 games?
Flyers1218
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 06.28.2007

Feb 17 @ 9:57 PM ET
Would you guys prefer the insipid losses of the losing streaks or fighting losses of late leads blown like past 2 games?
- PT21

I’d rather they get their doors blown off. I can look at the box score after the game and laugh about how bad they are.

Giving up 3 goals in the last 3 minutes of the game after taking the lead is a type of loss that is crappy no matter how bad the team is. Especially after the Penguins game.

The players are rotten. Tear…. it…. all…. down.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Feb 17 @ 9:58 PM ET
Good teams find ways to win and bad teams find ways to lose. Flyers just flat out f@cking suck.
- Pelle31Forever


Look at the roster. Not sure why its a surprise. People dont like to hear injuries as an excuse but the reality is the Injuries have had a huge impact and this season has been the most ridiculous season I have seen in regards to injuries.

Half the D is AHL caliber (Yandle, Seeler, Conaughton). Bottom 6 is AHL caliber (Willman, Macewan, Mayhew, Ratcliffe, Frost and Bunnaman).

Then you have to consider the players playing big Minutes.

JVR a guy you would expect to step up hasnt. Theres a reason He's typically been used on the 3rd line.

Konecny another guy who has yet to step up.

Laughton moved up to #2C.

Other teams deal with injuries but theres two significant differences. Flyers have been hit hard losing a lot of their top guys (Ellis, Hayes, Couturier, Farabee. It would be like PIT losing Crosby, Malkin, Guentzel and Letang). To be clear im comparing importance to the lineup, not their talent level, PIT players are by far more talented.

Second reason is the lack of depth. The Bottom 6 call ups just havent been that good. I will give Ratcliffe some credit in the small sample size. He has done OK but the quality is not there. Laughton or Frost cant replace Hayes in the lineup. A healthy Hayes is a puck possession monster. Despite the lack of speed he hung onto the puck and bulldozed his way to the front of the net.

At the end of the day a healthy Flyers team would be a much better team than we are seeing.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 17 @ 10:09 PM ET
Look at the roster. Not sure why its a surprise. People dont like to hear injuries as an excuse but the reality is the Injuries have had a huge impact and this season has been the most ridiculous season I have seen in regards to injuries.

Half the D is AHL caliber (Yandle, Seeler, Conaughton). Bottom 6 is AHL caliber (Willman, Macewan, Mayhew, Ratcliffe, Frost and Bunnaman).

Then you have to consider the players playing big Minutes.

JVR a guy you would expect to step up hasnt. Theres a reason He's typically been used on the 3rd line.

Konecny another guy who has yet to step up.

Laughton moved up to #2C.

Other teams deal with injuries but theres two significant differences. Flyers have been hit hard losing a lot of their top guys (Ellis, Hayes, Couturier, Farabee. It would be like PIT losing Crosby, Malkin, Guentzel and Letang). To be clear im comparing importance to the lineup, not their talent level, PIT players are by far more talented.

Second reason is the lack of depth. The Bottom 6 call ups just havent been that good. I will give Ratcliffe some credit in the small sample size. He has done OK but the quality is not there. Laughton or Frost cant replace Hayes in the lineup. A healthy Hayes is a puck possession monster. Despite the lack of speed he hung onto the puck and bulldozed his way to the front of the net.

At the end of the day a healthy Flyers team would be a much better team than we are seeing.

- xShoot4WarAmpsx


A healthy Hayes is a puck possession monster? Are we talking about the same Kevin Hayes? He's never been over 50% in CF% as a Flyer
Konecny has 7 points in the last 10 games. Laughton has 10 points in the last 10 games.
Don Nachbaur
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.01.2021

Feb 17 @ 10:11 PM ET
Look at the roster. Not sure why its a surprise. People dont like to hear injuries as an excuse but the reality is the Injuries have had a huge impact and this season has been the most ridiculous season I have seen in regards to injuries.

Half the D is AHL caliber (Yandle, Seeler, Conaughton). Bottom 6 is AHL caliber (Willman, Macewan, Mayhew, Ratcliffe, Frost and Bunnaman).

Then you have to consider the players playing big Minutes.

JVR a guy you would expect to step up hasnt. Theres a reason He's typically been used on the 3rd line.

Konecny another guy who has yet to step up.

Laughton moved up to #2C.

Other teams deal with injuries but theres two significant differences. Flyers have been hit hard losing a lot of their top guys (Ellis, Hayes, Couturier, Farabee. It would be like PIT losing Crosby, Malkin, Guentzel and Letang). To be clear im comparing importance to the lineup, not their talent level, PIT players are by far more talented.

Second reason is the lack of depth. The Bottom 6 call ups just havent been that good. I will give Ratcliffe some credit in the small sample size. He has done OK but the quality is not there. Laughton or Frost cant replace Hayes in the lineup. A healthy Hayes is a puck possession monster. Despite the lack of speed he hung onto the puck and bulldozed his way to the front of the net.

At the end of the day a healthy Flyers team would be a much better team than we are seeing.

- xShoot4WarAmpsx


Great post! Thank you for making sense!
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Feb 17 @ 10:16 PM ET
At the end of the day a healthy Flyers team would be a much better team than we are seeing..
- xShoot4WarAmpsx


You've been watching too much state run TV, erm I mean Comcast Sportsnet.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 17 @ 10:17 PM ET
You've been watching too much state run TV, erm I mean Comcast Sportsnet.
- Tomahawk



My favorite is that Hayes in a puck possession monster.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Feb 17 @ 10:20 PM ET
Guys, we’re only six wins ahead of Montreal at this point. The sooner we move pieces the sooner we’re looking at a top 3 pick. They’re really that bad.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Feb 17 @ 10:20 PM ET
The average height for males in Taiwan is like 5'8". And its not nutrition: that's an advanced country.

Further, TmHwk I would have personally placed at about 5'10".

Pisses me off I got that wrong.

- PT21


Stop trying to visualize me when you wank to my posts. It's creepy.
Don Nachbaur
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.01.2021

Feb 17 @ 10:22 PM ET
My favorite is that Hayes in a puck possession monster.
- MJL


Agreed that "monster" is not the best word when talking about Hayes, but the points about depth are spot on. Injuries are not an excuse but all teams have them. Our issue is the replacements are just not good. Also, as far as TK...I was always a big fan but how long was his scoreless streak? Yea, he put up some points recently but where was he when we needed him?
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