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fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Feb 18 @ 9:45 AM ET
Exactly.

Give these guy a chance before whining. Whine after we see what they mess up, IF they mess up.

- Scabeh

the good news is that they were talented offensive players. not 4th liner grinders.
Karine Hains
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Lévis, QC
Joined: 10.27.2018

Feb 18 @ 9:45 AM ET
is that what they call a modern organization? because I'm pretty sure that way of doing things is not new at all. lol
- fidopro


The modern side of things is to go at it and build a team based on modern data, using advance stats and not committing the whole cap to the defense. It's knowing that you win games by scoring goals not by just preventing them, that's the modern way. We're going to get a team that is attack orientated! Finally! It's not gonna be well, the goalie will carry us on his back and if his knees hold up, we may make the playoffs and then anything can happen.
Takemedrunkimhome
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 03.08.2018

Feb 18 @ 9:46 AM ET
It doens't look bad from most angles! You do not know these people professionally, nor do i to be fair, the people who do know them professionally hired them though, so give it a chance.
- Karine Hains

Hiring your friends looks bad EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. That's why YOU brought up the term country club. If all you can say is give it a chance you're literally saying nothing
Takemedrunkimhome
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 03.08.2018

Feb 18 @ 9:46 AM ET
to be fair he is drunk
- deadpoulet

Ooo gotcha...what's your excuse then?
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Feb 18 @ 9:47 AM ET
Hiring your friends looks bad EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. That's why YOU brought up the term country club. If all you can say is give it a chance you're literally saying nothing
- Takemedrunkimhome


in minor roles
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Feb 18 @ 9:47 AM ET
Hiring your friends looks bad EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. That's why YOU brought up the term country club. If all you can say is give it a chance you're literally saying nothing
- Takemedrunkimhome


Completely disagree.

Bringing in people you trust in a situation you NEED to succeed only makes sense.

If the people you bring in turn out to be useless turds, THEN it looks bad.

You're skipping steps into negative land my friend.
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Feb 18 @ 9:47 AM ET
Ooo gotcha...what's your excuse then?
- Takemedrunkimhome


I'm a chicken
Takemedrunkimhome
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 03.08.2018

Feb 18 @ 9:48 AM ET
is that what they call a modern organization? because I'm pretty sure that way of doing things is not new at all. lol
- fidopro

Naw...you're just looking at it objectively rather than blindly saying give it a chance. Who needs analysis?
Takemedrunkimhome
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 03.08.2018

Feb 18 @ 9:49 AM ET
in minor roles
- deadpoulet

That's white washing it rather than examining it. Either hiring friends is right or wrong regardless of level in the organization. Answer...it's wrong
AGalchenyuk27
Dallas Stars
Location: He was responsible for the term “Gordie Howe hat trick”, where a player scored a goal, added an , NB
Joined: 02.05.2013

Feb 18 @ 9:50 AM ET
Completely disagree.

Bringing in people you trust in a situation you NEED to succeed only makes sense.

If the people you bring in turn out to be useless turds, THEN it looks bad.

You're skipping steps into negative land my friend.

- Scabeh

Exactly after he was (frank)ed over by the Rangers he needs people he trusts as advisors. Friedman mentioned that in a recent podcast.
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Feb 18 @ 9:50 AM ET
That's white washing it rather than examining it. Either hiring friends is right or wrong regardless of level in the organization. Answer...it's wrong
- Takemedrunkimhome


I don't care to be honest, be mad about it if you feel like it
Snots33_77
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 09.25.2014

Feb 18 @ 9:51 AM ET
What's the problem with this guy Take?

Chews loudly?

- Scabeh


I think his biggest scouting score was Kreji.
Karine Hains
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Lévis, QC
Joined: 10.27.2018

Feb 18 @ 9:51 AM ET
Naw...you're just looking at it objectively rather than blindly saying give it a chance. Who needs analysis?
- Takemedrunkimhome


You're doing no analysis whatsoever!!!! You do not know these people track record, you said yourself you know nothing of Bobrov. give me a break.
Takemedrunkimhome
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 03.08.2018

Feb 18 @ 9:51 AM ET
Completely disagree.

Bringing in people you trust in a situation you NEED to succeed only makes sense.

If the people you bring in turn out to be useless turds, THEN it looks bad.

You're skipping steps into negative land my friend.

- Scabeh

Or I both hire a lot and work with companies on their hiring and can objectively look at what's going on and question it. First time GM comes in and hires his friends who are all first time everything starts to look bad if you don't just say "maybe it'll be ok, give it a chance". Wanting it to be a good situation doesn't mean ignoring things that look bad and hoping for the best
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Feb 18 @ 9:51 AM ET
WE'RE ALL GREAT FRIENDS ON THE INTERNET!
Takemedrunkimhome
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 03.08.2018

Feb 18 @ 9:52 AM ET
I don't care to be honest, be mad about it if you feel like it
- deadpoulet

You telling me to be mad about something on the internet if I feel like it amuses me
mr.peanut
Location: The Fan of Hockey. Welcome Utah!, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Feb 18 @ 9:52 AM ET
I'm a chicken
- deadpoulet

fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Feb 18 @ 9:52 AM ET
Naw...you're just looking at it objectively rather than blindly saying give it a chance. Who needs analysis?
- Takemedrunkimhome

meh, the guy will work from Tampa, probably pro scouting on NHL network. good for him.
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Feb 18 @ 9:53 AM ET
WE'RE ALL GREAT FRIENDS ON THE INTERNET!
- kicksave856



so true but I just can'T give them money with go fund me lol
Takemedrunkimhome
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 03.08.2018

Feb 18 @ 9:53 AM ET
You're doing no analysis whatsoever!!!! You do not know these people track record, you said yourself you know nothing of Bobrov. give me a break.
- Karine Hains

And I didn't question Bobrov. I did question MSL and Vinny for the reasons I've listed which again, aren't really being refuted (other than a part of my opinion on MSL - just not the facts behind my opinion).

It's like your "if you build it they will come" from the blog. Fact free but looks great as a slogan.
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm bi. Why limit yourself with half of the possible delicious pleasures of life - Fredo, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Feb 18 @ 9:54 AM ET
so true but I just can'T give them money with go fund me lol
- deadpoulet

an advisor is a person you bounce off ideas with, Vinny will not be running anything with the Habs, he is a resource Luthor will consult with from time to time.
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Feb 18 @ 9:55 AM ET

- mr.peanut

that does get me every time
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Feb 18 @ 9:55 AM ET
an advisor is a person you bounce off ideas with, Vinny will be running anything with the Habs, he is a resource Luthor will consult with from time to time.
- Symba007

like poutine or smoked meat. his first answer a month ago was the wrong one
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Feb 18 @ 9:55 AM ET
so true but I just can'T give them money with go fund me lol
- deadpoulet

you can give me money with go fund me.
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Feb 18 @ 9:56 AM ET
an advisor is a person you bounce off ideas with, Vinny will be running anything with the Habs, he is a resource Luthor will consult with from time to time.
- Symba007


I don't see it being a huge deal either, they won't be the ones making decisions
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