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manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Feb 20 @ 2:19 PM ET
Please, I'd love for you to tell me what you think the future possibilities are. Not, just that, but the future probabilities based off of precedent. Seriously, I want to hear.

Your second part lacks context, so not necessarily.

- NewYorkNuck

Your vision was "picks" for the future, which as you just stated lacks context.

I'm going outside to play with my 3 year old. So this is my last comment for a while. Feel free to respond and I'll check back later.

Good meaningful discussion as always.

P.s. I have no actual one way vision of the team. I could go an astronomical different amount of ways.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Feb 20 @ 2:20 PM ET
You are not winning with Bo Petey and Hughes as the future


wussy wussy and more wussy. I will leave it at that.

- VANTEL

I like Reuby’s trade suggestion with NJ yesterday. Ship QH to the Devils.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Feb 20 @ 2:27 PM ET
I like Reuby’s trade suggestion with NJ yesterday. Ship QH to the Devils.
- LeftCoaster

I think we should trade everyone worth anything, especially if they are under 25 and our best young players. Get them out! We shiuld trade Demko to the oilers to completely fck ourselves like we did with Marky and Tanev.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Feb 20 @ 2:30 PM ET
Your vision was "picks" for the future, which as you just stated lacks context.

I'm going outside to play with my 3 year old. So this is my last comment for a while. Feel free to respond and I'll check back later.

Good meaningful discussion as always.

P.s. I have no actual one way vision of the team. I could go an astronomical different amount of ways.

- manvanfan


Enjoy
carsonagenic
Vancouver Canucks
Location: AB
Joined: 03.08.2006

Feb 20 @ 2:34 PM ET
I think we should trade everyone worth anything, especially if they are under 25 and our best young players. Get them out! We shiuld trade Demko to the oilers to completely fck ourselves like we did with Marky and Tanev.
- neem55

No.
The unfortunate situation with the Canucks is that they keep chasing it instead of building properly.
Keep Demko and start building the team from him out. But Canucks, being Canucks, they keep trading away picks, never drafting enough high end D prospects, spending right to the cap, and not trading expiring contracts for value returns.
Keep spending like a drunk chasing a barfly and drafting small skilled shiny weak forwards, and this is what you get.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Feb 20 @ 2:40 PM ET
No.
The unfortunate situation with the Canucks is that they keep chasing it instead of building properly.
Keep Demko and start building from the team from him out. But Canucks, being Canucks, they keep trading away picks, never drafting enough high end D prospects, spending right to the cap, and not trading expiring contracts for value returns.
Keep spending like a drunk chasing a barfly and drafting small skilled shiny weak forwards, and this is what you get.

- carsonagenic

No matter what the team does the owner still makes money, so does it really matter what they do? if the fans want real change stop buying tickets and stop watching but people need something to watch while they drink themselves into a stuper.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Feb 20 @ 2:48 PM ET
No I don't.
- Marwood

Take the blinders off bud only a 6 furlong race to the cup now.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Feb 20 @ 2:50 PM ET
Same old same old


Just truckin along

- Nucker101



Well played...

LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Feb 20 @ 2:50 PM ET
You are not winning with Bo Petey and Hughes as the future


wussy wussy and more wussy. I will leave it at that.

- VANTEL

Plus Bo was mentored by the Sedins...didn't help him IMO.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 20 @ 2:51 PM ET
Plus Bo was mentored by the Sedins...didn't help him IMO.
- LordHumungous


And Linden
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Feb 20 @ 2:55 PM ET
I think we should trade everyone worth anything, especially if they are under 25 and our best young players. Get them out! We shiuld trade Demko to the oilers to completely fck ourselves like we did with Marky and Tanev.
- neem55

Rebuilding needs to have a purpose, which was nonexistent under Benning. Brian Burke built a good roster but lacked goaltending. Gillis drafted like poop but he built a solid roster on top of what was already there.

We need to start over but with purpose. You can’t win when Luke Schenn is one of your top three dmen.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Feb 20 @ 3:06 PM ET
You are not winning with Bo Petey and Hughes as the future


wussy wussy and more wussy. I will leave it at that.

- VANTEL

There is no future. This team and org suck. Move team. Arizona could use a second team. Would be nice to see the coyotes have a local rival
carsonagenic
Vancouver Canucks
Location: AB
Joined: 03.08.2006

Feb 20 @ 3:13 PM ET
No matter what the team does the owner still makes money, so does it really matter what they do? if the fans want real change stop buying tickets and stop watching but people need something to watch while they drink themselves into a stuper.
- A_SteamingLombardi

THIS!
carsonagenic
Vancouver Canucks
Location: AB
Joined: 03.08.2006

Feb 20 @ 3:15 PM ET
There is no future. This team and org suck. Move team. Arizona could use a second team. Would be nice to see the coyotes have a local rival
- CanuckDon

They could share the new 5000 seat arena. If they both played each other it might sellout.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Feb 20 @ 3:16 PM ET
Cody Hodgson, Bo Horvat, Ben Hutton, Kevin Couuntannen, Brendan Gaunce. 6 drafts and that is all that was produced. Canucks might have won if he didn't waste just about every pick for 6 years.
- manvanfan



I'll give you an A for effort on that one I guess...
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Feb 20 @ 3:17 PM ET
And Linden

- VANTEL

Never had an issue with TL. Bo would be a much better 'C' if he came up under Linden tell you that right now...

LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Feb 20 @ 3:18 PM ET
There is no future. This team and org suck. Move team. Arizona could use a second team. Would be nice to see the coyotes have a local rival
- CanuckDon

lol where would they play Don? In the minor hockey rink next to the Yotes new 400 seat Arena? Give your fucking head a shake man!!!!

carsonagenic
Vancouver Canucks
Location: AB
Joined: 03.08.2006

Feb 20 @ 3:19 PM ET
Rebuilding needs to have a purpose, which was nonexistent under Benning. Brian Burke built a good roster but lacked goaltending. Gillis drafted like poop but he built a solid roster on top of what was already there.

We need to start over but with purpose. You can’t win when Luke Schenn is one of your top three dmen.

- LeftCoaster

And this is where BPA isn't always the be all end all strategy. If your team is a black hole of D prospects, and the BPA is a 152 pound winger, you trade down, get more picks, and take a the best D available. If defenseman take longer to develop, you better draft more of them to built a future team.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Feb 20 @ 3:19 PM ET
I'll give you an A for effort on that one I guess...
- boonerbuck



Spelling in here is a fucking atrocity...

Most probably aren't still walking upright FFS...

boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Feb 20 @ 3:20 PM ET
Boeser has 238 pts in 298 NHL games and doesn’t have value?
- neem55


People are so near sighted. Narrative Monkey...
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Feb 20 @ 3:21 PM ET
And this is where BPA isn't always the be all end all strategy. If your team is a black hole of D prospects, and the BPA is a 152 pound winger, you trade down, get more picks, and take a the best D available. If defenseman take longer to develop, you better draft more of them to built a future team.
- carsonagenic

BPA is fucking dumb always has been. You build your team from the goalie out in fill in the gap/needs between the drafting if it's any good. Like Burke set us up we are set up well here Rutherford knows that or he wouldn't have come here. Just tweaks like a Salo-type RHD and a decent 3LC-$LC. Minor stuff.
Carol Schram
Joined: 09.27.2013

Feb 20 @ 3:23 PM ET
Bruce Boudreau seems concerned that the Canucks can't stick with it when the going gets tough.

So I crunched some numbers in the new blog — and while they're not great, they might not be as bad as you think?

https://www.hockeybuzz.co...eir-resilience/194/116180
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Feb 20 @ 3:24 PM ET


Spelling in here is a fucking atrocity...

Most probably aren't still walking upright FFS...


- LordHumungous


I'm one of the worse I'll admit..
carsonagenic
Vancouver Canucks
Location: AB
Joined: 03.08.2006

Feb 20 @ 3:26 PM ET
BPA is fucking dumb always has been. You build your team from the goalie out in fill in the gap/needs between the drafting if it's any good. Like Burke set us up we are set up well here Rutherford knows that or he wouldn't have come here. Just tweaks like a Salo-type RHD and a decent 3LC-$LC. Minor stuff.
- LordHumungous

Sometimes I just can't tell if you have gone full Nucker...
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Feb 20 @ 3:27 PM ET
Demko, Petey, Hughes, Boeser.

Gaunce, Jensen, Schroeder, Hodgson.

One GM had "no plan for the future"

Can you figure out what GM was which?

- manvanfan


This post nails it.


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