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PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Feb 22 @ 12:06 PM ET
Then explain why so few picks make nhl. I listed facts you just say no. Thats not an argument.

Looking back at 2010 draft. There were 4 players out of 30 picks that are nhl regulars

Khunhackl
Donskoi
Grubauer
Hankaapaa

Only Donskoi was taken in the first 15 picks. If its not all luck, why did so many teams pass on these guys for players who were busts?

I chose 2010 because its a year where if a player drafted then isnt here now, they never will be.

Lets look at shesterkins draft now

Husso
Wallmark
D.Toews
Arvidsson
Shesterkin
Kahkonen
Bunting
Heinen

This is a more successful year. 8/30 picks.

Shesterkin and Toews obviously stick out.

Husso is having his 1st good season this year. Kahkonen is still backup stuck behind Talbot.

Rest are not big names. Bunting is having success with Matthews and Marner but who wouldnt?

These are needles in a haystack. If Isles or Rangers knew what they were getting why did they draft the likes of

Keegar Iverson
Brandon Halverson
Ho Sang
Dal Colle

Ahead of them?

- xShoot4WarAmpsx


Here is an example:

Two teams, say Flyers and Tampa (Percentages randomly chosen to make a point).

% of scouting skill responsible for producing NHL regulars:

Flyers 50%, Tampa 60%
Later rounds: Flyers 10%, Tampa: 20%

The following statements can all be simultaneously true:

1. Getting a late round NHL regular is MOSTLY but NOT all luck for either club.
2. Getting a late round NHL regular and a 1st round bust DOES NOT PROVE that the late round pick success was ONLY luck for either cub
3. Even though its mostly luck, Tampa needs LESS OF IT to get a NHL regular in the late rounds than the Flyers do.

If you still don't get the point, your issues are far larger than this discussion.

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 22 @ 12:14 PM ET



2. Getting a late round NHL regular and a 1st round bust DOES NOT PROVE that the late round pick success was ONLY luck for either cub


- PT21


What it proves is that the team who took the player in the 3rd round that winds up being a star, while the two picks the made in the previous two rounds were busts, had no clue that the player they took in the 3rd would be a star. That's luck


3. Even though its mostly luck, Tampa needs LESS OF IT to get a NHL regular in the late rounds than the Flyers do.


- PT21


Perhaps it's that they have more luck rather than needing LESS OF IT.


If you still don't get the point, your issues are far larger than this discussion.


- PT21


Live in a glass house?
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Feb 22 @ 12:20 PM ET
It's absurd just how much better 3v3 is than 4v4. They should just 3v3 sudden death until there's a winner, no SO.
- Tomahawk

I could get on board with that
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