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xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Feb 21 @ 4:32 PM ET
In my opinion, you are drastically overrating what the market will be for Giroux. I don't see teams giving up their best prospects for Giroux or any other playoff rental.
- MJL


Where did I overrate? I said the Bruins were a likely destination because they would get a 1st and a guy like DeBrusk. I said only if one of those players is offered he goes elsewhere
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Feb 21 @ 4:37 PM ET
Where did I overrate? I said the Bruins were a likely destination because they would get a 1st and a guy like DeBrusk. I said only if one of those players is offered he goes elsewhere
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

1st and a mid rounder. They aren’t getting a 1st and a 25 yr old 1st round pick that puts up 2nd line numbers.

Imagine us going after a 34 yr old rental and a team asking us for a 1st and Konecny. Not gonna happen.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Feb 21 @ 4:38 PM ET
1st and a mid rounder. They aren’t getting a 1st and a 25 yr old 1st round pick that puts up 2nd line numbers.
- hereticpride

Well that sure as hell isn’t Jake debrusk
THE EVIL WITHIN
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Feb 21 @ 4:40 PM ET
Even when they outplay a team by a significant margin they can't win.
Half way to a third double digit losing streak. As pathetic as it gets.

- PLindbergh31

The goal is to get even with Habs at the bottom
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 21 @ 4:42 PM ET
The goal is to get even with Habs at the bottom
- THE EVIL WITHIN


That'll be awesome then they can draft another stiff.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Feb 21 @ 4:42 PM ET
Well that sure as hell isn’t Jake debrusk
- ClaudeFather

Steadily around 40 points a season by age 25. Not what I’d call a career bottom six player. A 1st and Debrusk ain’t happening. One or the other. No way they get both.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Feb 21 @ 4:45 PM ET
Steadily around 40 points a season by age 25. Not what I’d call a career bottom six player. A 1st and Debrusk ain’t happening. One or the other. No way they get both.
- hereticpride

Averaged 40 points per year? This season and last that’s not true but hey state whatever you want. He’s an incredibly inconsistent player and asked for a trade, I don’t think a first and debrusk is out of the question.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Feb 21 @ 4:52 PM ET
Mayhew has a Jon Sim vibe to him.
- PLindbergh31



Your posts have a professional mourner vibe to them:



landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Feb 21 @ 4:52 PM ET
Averaged 40 points per year? This season and last that’s not true but hey state whatever you want. He’s an incredibly inconsistent player and asked for a trade, I don’t think a first and debrusk is out of the question.
- ClaudeFather


That’s not too far out of the realm of being a possibility. It all depends on if there’s a few teams G is willing to go to and there’s interest on the other end. It will be interesting on what happens in the next little while as the trade market develops.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 21 @ 4:53 PM ET
Where did I overrate? I said the Bruins were a likely destination because they would get a 1st and a guy like DeBrusk. I said only if one of those players is offered he goes elsewhere
- xShoot4WarAmpsx


Giroux is not going to get one of those players. In my opinion, you have overrated what the market is going to be.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 21 @ 4:56 PM ET
Averaged 40 points per year? This season and last that’s not true but hey state whatever you want. He’s an incredibly inconsistent player and asked for a trade, I don’t think a first and debrusk is out of the question.
- ClaudeFather


I think it's a bit much. Boston can trade DeBrusk separately and get a decent return rather than include him with a first round pick for a 34 year old rental.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Feb 21 @ 5:04 PM ET
I think it's a bit much. Boston can trade DeBrusk separately and get a decent return rather than include him with a first round pick for a 34 year old rental.
- MJL

They could try and deal him separately, but If there were multiple teams kicking the tires I think that could be a return. Boston also needs more help than most teams.
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Feb 21 @ 5:10 PM ET
Get Ratcliffe off the 4th line now please
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Feb 21 @ 5:10 PM ET
Saint Patrick!

I think that Isaac kid may be a player.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Feb 21 @ 5:15 PM ET
Few thoughts about the first period.

Morgan Frost 5 minutes in puts on his tools on display but somehow all this skill very rarely results in goals. I don’t know what to make of this kid.

Konency tries to draw a phantom high stick on our first PP. Ten seconds later he’s fine. I hate players like this.

Ratcliffe was the most noticeable of all our guys in the first. How hasn’t he been moved up in the line up? You could make the same argument for Gerry Mayhew who is producing. I don’t wanna see anymore of Willman or Bunnaman. Mayhew should probably play ahead of the likes of Konency and Lindblom at the moment.

Anyway I’m only 27 minutes into this game.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Feb 21 @ 5:15 PM ET
Few thoughts about the first period.

Morgan Frost 5 minutes in puts on his tools on display but somehow all this skill very rarely results in goals. I don’t know what to make of this kid.

Konency tries to draw a phantom high stick on our first PP. Ten seconds later he’s fine. I hate players like this.

Ratcliffe was the most noticeable of all our guys in the first. How hasn’t he been moved up in the line up? You could make the same argument for Gerry Mayhew who is producing. I don’t wanna see anymore of Willman or Bunnaman. Mayhew should probably play ahead of the likes of Konency and Lindblom at the moment.

Anyway I’m only 27 minutes into this game.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Feb 21 @ 5:15 PM ET
Giroux is not going to get one of those players. In my opinion, you have overrated what the market is going to be.
- MJL


Im not saying they are. Again im saying he goes to Boston because they won't be on the table
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Feb 21 @ 5:19 PM ET
Few thoughts about the first period.

Morgan Frost 5 minutes in puts on his tools on display but somehow all this skill very rarely results in goals. I don’t know what to make of this kid.

Konency tries to draw a phantom high stick on our first PP. Ten seconds later he’s fine. I hate players like this.

Ratcliffe was the most noticeable of all our guys in the first. How hasn’t he been moved up in the line up? You could make the same argument for Gerry Mayhew who is producing. I don’t wanna see anymore of Willman or Bunnaman. Mayhew should probably play ahead of the likes of Konency and Lindblom at the moment.

Anyway I’m only 27 minutes into this game.

- SuperSchennBros



He got hit with the follow through.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Feb 21 @ 5:21 PM ET
It makes sense to trade Giroux regardless of what the return is. In my opinion, Giroux wants to leave and the team wants to move on due to his age and contract requirements.
- MJL

I haven’t heard anything that says Giroux wants to be traded.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 21 @ 5:22 PM ET
They could try and deal him separately, but If there were multiple teams kicking the tires I think that could be a return. Boston also needs more help than most teams.
- ClaudeFather


Which is why they might not want to put all of their best assets in for one player.
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Feb 21 @ 5:22 PM ET
No worries, we have a PP
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Feb 21 @ 5:23 PM ET
They obviously should maximize the return but it’s a guy that has supposedly hand picked a few teams he’d accept and has a high cap hit. It’s not going to be Matt walker and a third but it’s also probably not going to be the best prospect out there and two firsts. Not sure what’s so hard to get.
- ClaudeFather

It’s comments like this, I don’t for the life of me understand why you engage.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 21 @ 5:23 PM ET
Im not saying they are. Again im saying he goes to Boston because they won't be on the table
- xShoot4WarAmpsx


I don't think you get a first AND Debrusk for Giroux.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Feb 21 @ 5:23 PM ET
He got hit with the follow through.
- MBFlyerfan

I know but his reaction was Unnecessary. He wasn’t hurt.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Feb 21 @ 5:28 PM ET
It’s comments like this, I don’t for the life of me understand why you engage.
- SuperSchennBros

Can’t stand stupidity
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