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Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Feb 25 @ 6:35 PM ET
Giroux will get a late 1st or similar prospect, along with a 2nd or 3rd or some B level prospect. Anyone thinking about two 1sts and a young roster player is thinking like the Buzztron.
- HockeyBuzzed


I'm fine with 1 decent prospect...ala Erat for Forsberg type trade. No one, I MEAN NO ONE expects 2 1sts and a young roster player.
HockeyBuzzed
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Nashville
Joined: 09.10.2021

Feb 25 @ 7:37 PM ET
I'm fine with 1 decent prospect...ala Erat for Forsberg type trade. No one, I MEAN NO ONE expects 2 1sts and a young roster player.
- Glak18


A decent comparable was when Kevin Hayes was traded. Late 1st, 4th, Brendan Lemieux. Evander Kane once went for a similar package. If Colorado doesn't have a 1st they'll have to get more creative. Newhook would be the ask. What does Ek think?
Wolfpack5
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: Burlington, NC
Joined: 07.07.2012

Feb 25 @ 8:36 PM ET
did eric staal win a stanley cup yet?
- Eklblad


I’m assuming this is making fun of something KA or EK said that I missed. But if it’s serious yes he won one in 2006.
TurdFergeson
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: On the road again
Joined: 01.04.2021

Feb 25 @ 8:46 PM ET
I’m assuming this is making fun of something KA or EK said that I missed. But if it’s serious yes he won one in 2006.
- Wolfpack5

You assume correctly…
Newgod77
Boston Bruins
Location: IL
Joined: 05.10.2015

Feb 26 @ 12:09 PM ET
Rangers waived a good player because of his political views. 😂
TurdFergeson
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: On the road again
Joined: 01.04.2021

Feb 26 @ 12:38 PM ET
Rangers waived a good player because of his political views. 😂
- Newgod77


No they waived him because he was a douchebag and was fighting teammates.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Feb 26 @ 12:59 PM ET
Hasek.

https://sports.yahoo.com/...8ooNly2U4ueXDlcjwOCFc-bc8

HockeyBuzzed
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Nashville
Joined: 09.10.2021

Feb 26 @ 1:03 PM ET
Hasek.

https://sports.yahoo.com/...8ooNly2U4ueXDlcjwOCFc-bc8

- Atomic Wedgie


I wonder if some of the players are texting Ek about this?
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Feb 26 @ 1:05 PM ET
I wonder if some of the players are texting Ek about this?
- HockeyBuzzed

Did Ek’s Russian source protest yesterday?

Can he still text Ek from a gulag?
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Feb 26 @ 2:21 PM ET
Apparently the IIHF meets Monday to discuss what to do with Russia.

Let’s be crystal clear here:

Hockey Canada holds all the power here.

I expect them to take a hard line: no Russian teams allowed in any competition s.

If the IIHF waffles, it’s time to ask why we need the IIHF.

We could hold our own WJC. All you need is the US, Finland and Sweden to agree, and the IIHF is dead.

We don’t need them for World Cups, and I don’t give two poops about World Championships or the Spengler.

And everything above holds true for women’s hockey.
THE EVIL WITHIN
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Feb 26 @ 2:42 PM ET
Sure Allen, Copitals
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Feb 26 @ 2:49 PM ET
I like to see BLUES go after Chara & Clutterbuck bring in some tough hit-machine monsters to add to the Bluenote for the playoff run
- bird diggler

the_eye
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.22.2012

Feb 26 @ 3:19 PM ET
Kessel hard to move.
Is that a fat joke?
Leafsmart
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Fredericton, N.B.
Joined: 12.18.2013

Feb 26 @ 3:28 PM ET
2. What is Stastny so valuable at? Must be my Tv, perhaps.
eternal_flames
Calgary Flames
Location: sIgN aNd TrAdE
Joined: 06.05.2006

Feb 26 @ 3:41 PM ET
Any Shawn Matthias roomerz?? Maybe it'll be a sIgN aNd TrAdE.
HockeyBuzzed
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Nashville
Joined: 09.10.2021

Feb 26 @ 3:43 PM ET
2. What is Stastny so valuable at? Must be my Tv, perhaps.
- Leafsmart


It's becoming clear that some people haven't watched the Jets for the last 5 years...
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Feb 26 @ 6:28 PM ET
Apparently the IIHF meets Monday to discuss what to do with Russia.

Let’s be crystal clear here:

Hockey Canada holds all the power here.

I expect them to take a hard line: no Russian teams allowed in any competition s.

If the IIHF waffles, it’s time to ask why we need the IIHF.

We could hold our own WJC. All you need is the US, Finland and Sweden to agree, and the IIHF is dead.

We don’t need them for World Cups, and I don’t give two poops about World Championships or the Spengler.

And everything above holds true for women’s hockey.

- Atomic Wedgie


Supported 1000%
HockeyBuzzed
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Nashville
Joined: 09.10.2021

Feb 26 @ 6:48 PM ET
Supported 1000%
- PT21


Kick all Russians out of the NHL. Maybe even the country. Or put them in jail for awhile.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Feb 26 @ 7:26 PM ET
Kick all Russians out of the NHL. Maybe even the country. Or put them in jail for awhile.
- HockeyBuzzed


No, thats going too far.

But I would like them to feel the heat psychologically. Let them denounce the actions. If not, let them feel the social stigma and I hope it is significant. They are not going to hotdog it across our ice and think they can keep their trap shut and we will cheer them on as though nothing has happened.

And let their leaders understand that all over the world, unless proven otherwise, Russians will be treated with a suspicion that they are Nazi supporters.

Everything has changed.
DEDDIE
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary
Joined: 01.08.2019

Feb 27 @ 12:20 AM ET
19. Feels like goalie Alexandar Georgiev, a first and a second-round pick would be a good start to the New York Rangers acquiring defenseman Jakob Chychrun from the Arizona Coyotes. That's close to what the Coyotes are asking.

If the Yotes would accept this deal it would have been done a long time ago!
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Feb 27 @ 8:27 AM ET
No, thats going too far.

But I would like them to feel the heat psychologically. Let them denounce the actions. If not, let them feel the social stigma and I hope it is significant. They are not going to hotdog it across our ice and think they can keep their trap shut and we will cheer them on as though nothing has happened.

And let their leaders understand that all over the world, unless proven otherwise, Russians will be treated with a suspicion that they are Nazi supporters.

Everything has changed.

- PT21



You found a way to insert Nazi in there but I’m honestly disappointed you couldn’t squeeze in a little white supremacy. Be better.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Feb 27 @ 8:34 AM ET
19. Feels like goalie Alexandar Georgiev, a first and a second-round pick would be a good start to the New York Rangers acquiring defenseman Jakob Chychrun from the Arizona Coyotes. That's close to what the Coyotes are asking.

If the Yotes would accept this deal it would have been done a long time ago!

- DEDDIE

Yeah if the price were a bad goaltender and a late first I would think he would be traded already.
Only_A_Ladd
Los Angeles Kings
Location: TERRACE LANCO, CA
Joined: 06.06.2013

Feb 27 @ 9:17 AM ET
No, thats going too far.

But I would like them to feel the heat psychologically. Let them denounce the actions. If not, let them feel the social stigma and I hope it is significant. They are not going to hotdog it across our ice and think they can keep their trap shut and we will cheer them on as though nothing has happened.

And let their leaders understand that all over the world, unless proven otherwise, Russians will be treated with a suspicion that they are Nazi supporters.


Everything has changed.

- PT21


So treat Russians as if they are affiliates of a genocidal regime so Russian leaders feel bad about the heat that the diaspora is feeling? First, I doubt Russian leaders give a f8ck. Second, why should we assume all Russians are supportive of Putin? Read up on that whole Japanese interment thing that happened here in the 40's for context of why your idea is absolute sh8t.

Edit: https://www.sportsnet.ca/...absolutely-unprecedented/

But yeah: let's group Russians like Panarin in with your plan because they all should feel the heat so Russian leaders feel bad.
HockeyBuzzed
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Nashville
Joined: 09.10.2021

Feb 27 @ 10:44 AM ET
So treat Russians as if they are affiliates of a genocidal regime so Russian leaders feel bad about the heat that the diaspora is feeling? First, I doubt Russian leaders give a f8ck. Second, why should we assume all Russians are supportive of Putin? Read up on that whole Japanese interment thing that happened here in the 40's for context of why your idea is absolute sh8t.

Edit: https://www.sportsnet.ca/...absolutely-unprecedented/

But yeah: let's group Russians like Panarin in with your plan because they all should feel the heat so Russian leaders feel bad.

- Only_A_Ladd


Let's have authorities stop people in public to see their papers. If they are Russian - jail. No vaccine - jail. Voted Republican - jail. Etc...
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Feb 27 @ 11:49 AM ET
So treat Russians as if they are affiliates of a genocidal regime so Russian leaders feel bad about the heat that the diaspora is feeling? First, I doubt Russian leaders give a f8ck. Second, why should we assume all Russians are supportive of Putin? Read up on that whole Japanese interment thing that happened here in the 40's for context of why your idea is absolute sh8t.

Edit: https://www.sportsnet.ca/...absolutely-unprecedented/

But yeah: let's group Russians like Panarin in with your plan because they all should feel the heat so Russian leaders feel bad.

- Only_A_Ladd


Dude, it might be useful to pay a little attention to what I am saying instead of railing at the usual strawmen.

I am saying: questions in press conferences, banners in stands, protests near home, and on their social media platforms, not just to NHL players but all public personalities.

(Please note: this is the exact same thing that was done against South African athletes during the Apartheid regime. Except the social media part.)

I am not saying: any civil or criminal escalation beyond that. Nor am I saying any harassment of any "ordinary" Russian at say Brighton Beach.

Why I am saying this: Since the fall of the USSR, the Russian elite are enmeshed in western professions and public life. Their lives are avidly followed back home, and many of them are very close to corridors of power (though less so in the last few years).

The practical aspects of such social stigma is to disturb the lives and hope collectively it percolates up and creates social pressure. If Mr. Putin wants to recreate the Cold War, let him be reminded in direct and indirect ways what his country faced in those days, and how it went.

And even if it did not have any practical effect: Sports, beyond competition between team and team, also has a moral component to it. When we support sports, we are buying in to the notion that entities can compete with passion and yet stay within rules. The government of the individuals involved have broken such a pact. I understand that protesting them is a personally illiberal act, but so is the draft during a war. And this is a war.

So, I am personally ok with this tradeoff.

Two digressions:
1. Panarin should be lionized and given a bigger platform, like 60 mins, because of Navalny and what Navalny has said about Ukraine.
2. The Japanese internment has nothing to do with the current situation.
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