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Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Feb 26 @ 5:33 PM ET
To put players lives into commodity terms, trading Miller for the same thing you paid for him three years ago would be like buying a stock for $1 each and selling it three years later for $1 each. Even Don knows that’s not good business. Unless of course the utility you’ve received in that time outweighs the price you get. Like, if the number of wins the team had were so high that team revenues were way up…
- 1970vintage

How about putting them into a depreciating asset category, doesn’t seem right to say you paid this much in their 20’s and expect more in their mid 30’s.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Feb 26 @ 5:34 PM ET
Thanks Carol, good point about the refs, seems that they decided to punish the Flames for being the whiny, sniveling disrespectful crybabies. They got what they deserved, Canucks maybe, just maybe could have had two called.
- Makita

neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Feb 26 @ 5:50 PM ET
Also @Vantel, something you said from the game the other night really stuck, and is something I’ve been thinking but haven’t said out loud.

Watching on TV doesn’t give you the whole picture. Your comment was about Boeser being better than you perhaps thought I think. It’s probably the same for guys who we (I) complain about too, like Myers. I think generally speaking, the guys are all better than the whiners think and not as good as the slurpers think.

- 1970vintage

When I was at the Ducks game I thought Myers looked even more out of position than I’ve noticed. He did have a particularly bad game that night though.
Bettmanhatesus
Joined: 08.10.2016

Feb 26 @ 5:51 PM ET
Thanks Carol, good point about the refs, seems that they decided to punish the Flames for being the whiny, sniveling disrespectful crybabies. They got what they deserved, Canucks maybe, just maybe could have had two called.
- Makita

They missed a high stick by highmore other than that the canucks were disciplined, there was nothing to call, no manufacturing which was nice. The flames kept being stupid and the ref called it which again was nice.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 26 @ 6:24 PM ET
When I was at the Ducks game I thought Myers looked even more out of position than I’ve noticed. He did have a particularly bad game that night though.
- neem55


I thought the PP looked way out of sync but they scored 3 on the PP. There was a couple of break out passes that Flames walked right in but got Demko'd .

I think if anyone looked like they didn't belong it was Brad Hunt.

I am not a fan of Hughes but the amount that he drives and controls the game is very impressive. I will probably take the wife for a game when they get back it is a lot of fun.
Bettmanhatesus
Joined: 08.10.2016

Feb 26 @ 6:35 PM ET
I thought the PP looked way out of sync but they scored 3 on the PP. There was a couple of break out passes that Flames walked right in but got Demko'd .

I think if anyone looked like they didn't belong it was Brad Hunt.

I am not a fan of Hughes but the amount that he drives and controls the game is very impressive. I will probably take the wife for a game when they get back it is a lot of fun.

- VANTEL

drives and controls the game and not a fan? is it because he's small and doesnt rough it up?
Bettmanhatesus
Joined: 08.10.2016

Feb 26 @ 6:37 PM ET
I thought the PP looked way out of sync but they scored 3 on the PP. There was a couple of break out passes that Flames walked right in but got Demko'd .

I think if anyone looked like they didn't belong it was Brad Hunt.

I am not a fan of Hughes but the amount that he drives and controls the game is very impressive. I will probably take the wife for a game when they get back it is a lot of fun.

- VANTEL

i think your buddy podz is about to break out and pile up the points playing with petey and hogs.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 26 @ 6:39 PM ET
drives and controls the game and not a fan? is it because he's small and doesnt rough it up?
- Bettmanhatesus


It has a lot to do with last year .

It is definitely because he is small and not physical and I don't think he has much of a shot either. Just because he is not a favorite of mine it does not mean that I am trying to move him. I get that he is here for a long time and that is okay.


VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 26 @ 6:41 PM ET
i think your buddy podz is about to break out and pile up the points playing with petey and hogs.
- Bettmanhatesus


He really helps that line. The scoring will come.
Bettmanhatesus
Joined: 08.10.2016

Feb 26 @ 6:52 PM ET
It has a lot to do with last year .

It is definitely because he is small and not physical and I don't think he has much of a shot either. Just because he is not a favorite of mine it does not mean that I am trying to move him. I get that he is here for a long time and that is okay.

- VANTEL

i look at it as a sneaky shot, not hard but he tries to get it through by picking spots hoping for deflections, he could work on velocity though.
Bettmanhatesus
Joined: 08.10.2016

Feb 26 @ 6:55 PM ET
He really helps that line. The scoring will come.

- VANTEL

he does and petey has some confidence building now, i look at that line and i see lots of potential.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 26 @ 6:59 PM ET
he does and petey has some confidence building now, i look at that line and i see lots of potential.
- Bettmanhatesus





1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Feb 26 @ 7:02 PM ET
How about putting them into a depreciating asset category, doesn’t seem right to say you paid this much in their 20’s and expect more in their mid 30’s.
- Makita


Well that was why I included utility. You gain a certain amount of benefit by owning the asset. In the case on an NHL team, that would include things like gate revenue, playoff appearances, wins etc. that utility offsets any loss from the depreciation of the asset, or at least it should. Given that Miller is likely hitting his peak value, trading him now for a first and a third would be an utter failure by this management group.

Schmidt you can let go as a mistake, that only cost you a year, and I guess the player you let walk for nothing, plus the difference in salary you paid, but minor in the grand scheme of things.

Edit - I guess there is also the possibility that a first and a third is Miller’s true value, which would say something about the bargaining position from three years ago…
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Feb 26 @ 7:03 PM ET
When I was at the Ducks game I thought Myers looked even more out of position than I’ve noticed. He did have a particularly bad game that night though.
- neem55


I’ll never admit Myers is “good”, no matter how well he played
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Feb 26 @ 7:07 PM ET
Oh crap, the Rangers only managed 19 shots in a 1-0 loss. They going to be ornery tomorrow.
Bettmanhatesus
Joined: 08.10.2016

Feb 26 @ 7:17 PM ET
Canucks to sign Linus Karlsson after his SHL season according to reports.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Feb 26 @ 7:23 PM ET
Well that was why I included utility. You gain a certain amount of benefit by owning the asset. In the case on an NHL team, that would include things like gate revenue, playoff appearances, wins etc. that utility offsets any loss from the depreciation of the asset, or at least it should. Given that Miller is likely hitting his peak value, trading him now for a first and a third would be an utter failure by this management group.

Schmidt you can let go as a mistake, that only cost you a year, and I guess the player you let walk for nothing, plus the difference in salary you paid, but minor in the grand scheme of things.

Edit - I guess there is also the possibility that a first and a third is Miller’s true value, which would say something about the bargaining position from three years ago…

- 1970vintage

More than a 1st & 3rd easily. Btw who is that from? No possibility.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Feb 26 @ 7:24 PM ET
[quote=Nighthawk]

What?
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Feb 26 @ 7:26 PM ET
Canucks to sign Linus Karlsson after his SHL season according to reports.
- Bettmanhatesus


I guess they won't be signing many college and European free agents this season they only have 3 available spots, 2 if they sign Linus.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Feb 26 @ 7:27 PM ET
More than a 1st & 3rd easily. Btw who is that from? No possibility.
- Nighthawk


It’s not from anybody. We were just blending economics and hockey. I’m sure a JT Miller trade would involve more than this.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Feb 26 @ 7:28 PM ET
I guess they won't be signing many college and European free agents this season they only have 3 available spots, 2 if they sign Linus.
- Reubenkincade


Didn’t someone just say something like this?
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Feb 26 @ 7:28 PM ET
I guess they won't be signing many college and European free agents this season they only have 3 available spots, 2 if they sign Linus.
- Reubenkincade

Barring a trade.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Feb 26 @ 7:38 PM ET
Didn’t someone just say something like this?
- 1970vintage


😁
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Feb 26 @ 7:39 PM ET
Barring a trade.
- Nighthawk


Good point, they trade Miller, they should get 3 players back, leaving room for only 1 signing.
Bettmanhatesus
Joined: 08.10.2016

Feb 26 @ 8:02 PM ET
Barring a trade.
- Nighthawk

I’m sure that’s in the cards, JR had publically said so.
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