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Yeah, I’ve been a huge Gaunce supporter over the years

No idea why you specifically constantly just assume how I think it’s like you can’t get past how I used to post about corsi 7 years ago

To me his best quality was that he was cheap and decent defensively. Cheap 4th lines is the way to go.
- Nucker101

I was referring to Eichel, who isn't a cheap 4th liner, he is a very expensive 2nd liner.

Context.
- Marwood

so there is criticism for anyone that tries to rationalize Canucks looses, as excuses, and here you are giving the exact same excuses for why the Blues lost as context.

Yeah, I’ve been a huge Gaunce supporter over the years

No idea why you specifically constantly just assume how I think it’s like you can’t get past how I used to post about corsi 7 years ago back when I wasn’t old enough to drink in the states

To me his best quality was that he was cheap and decent defensively. Cheap 4th lines is the way to go.
- Nucker101

Eichel not Gaunce

I have seen him yes. Exactly as you described him , good speed shifty and a good shot. No size at all. Reminds me of Garland (whom I like).
- VANTEL

I am really looking forward to the day that the team has Garland, Hoglander, Lockhart, Lockwood, Hughes, Rathbone,
Should be fun times

When the score was 7-1 I yelled Daryll pull the goalie. He didn't smile.
- VANTEL

I was referring to Eichel, who isn't a cheap 4th liner, he is a very expensive 2nd liner.
- Reubenkincade

Lol I’m still dumb my bad

Yeah, he’s a 1st liner to me but we’ll see how he recovers (f you kman) from his neck issue. I still don’t think that’s some bad take. I’ve seen plenty of media guys who are ex-players/coaches/GM call him an elite talent

I do think he was a star player before the injury

When the score was 7-1 I yelled Daryll pull the goalie. He didn't smile.
- VANTEL

so there is criticism for anyone that tries to rationalize Canucks looses, as excuses, and here you are giving the exact same excuses for why the Blues lost as context.
- Makita

Losses, you’re welcome.

I am really looking forward to the day that the team has Garland, Hoglander, Lockhart, Lockwood, Hughes, Rathbone,
Should be fun times
- Reubenkincade

I’m cool with a few small guys but they need to be top 6 players and surrounded by some size. Like how Tampa builds teams with guys like Cirelli, Kucherov, Point, etc.

Defense wise I’d say the guys around should all have decent size. I’ve noticed most teams that make deep playoff runs typically only have one smaller dman max.

Like I’d draw the line at Hughes, Garland and maybe Hog if he learns to (frank)ing finish

Lol I’m still dumb my bad

Yeah, he’s a 1st liner to me but we’ll see how he receivers from his neck issue. I still don’t think that’s some bad take. I’ve seen plenty of media guys who are ex-players/coaches/GM call him an elite talent

I do think he was a star player before the injury
- Nucker101

Recovers, you’re welcome.

Losses, you’re welcome.
- K-man25

Um loses never mind . Past tense. Never argue with an English major

Recovers, you’re welcome.
- K-man25

Nuckers on his B game today.

Recovers, you’re welcome.
- K-man25

(frank) you


Big hands w/ fat fingers + iPad

Nuckers on his B game today.

- boonerbuck

Long haul covid victim

Um loses never mind . Past tense. Never argue with an English major
- VANTEL

Sounds like Podkolzin moves up to the 2nd line with Bo and Brock.
Chaisson takes his spot on the 4th line with Hoglander and Pouty.

This has chickenpoop written all over it. What a terrible concept... don't want to make the playoffs because the Canucks would be overmatched...

The young core needs playoff experience and like most young teams, losing is part of the learning process.

Let me remind you that these young guys beat the highly favored cup defending champs in the play offs already... imagine if they gave up because of the perception that they couldn't win?
- boonerbuck

I think what I meant isn't coming across. It's not a defeatist attitude, but more an actual question.

If they're making the push, that means they're not selling players off this TDL, which won't restock the depth/youth and cap situation the team so badly needs because they're at best a playoff bubble team. All of us want a cup winning team, and the franchise how it is set up right now and the players coming aren't pushing us into a Colorado/Carolina/Lightning territory. However, the kids gain good experience, they built a better confidence and winning environment, and they're shown management believes in them. They learn, like you said, what it takes to win by having to lose a whole lot. There's lots of upside to it.

On the other hand, if management doesn't think just squeaking into the playoffs is a good long term plan (aka the Jim Benning plan), then having them squeak in and more-than-likely face Colorado and, realistically, probably lose, might not be the best plan for the franchise the next 3, 5 years. They'd miss out on selling high on some players at the TDL (though players could be traded at the draft, just not as many overpayments at that time), and opening up cap and potentially roster spots to sign college and Euro players.

I'm not saying one is better, or even one is the correct path, they both have pros and cons, and compounding pros and cons over years. It's just a question, honestly.

I’m cool with a few small guys but they need to be top 6 players and surrounded by some size. Like how Tampa builds teams with guys like Cirelli, Kucherov, Point, etc.

Defense wise I’d say the guys around should all have decent size. I’ve noticed most teams that make deep playoff runs typically only have one smaller dman max.

Like I’d draw the line at Hughes, Garland and maybe Hog if he learns to (frank)ing finish
- Nucker101

“I thought Hoggy and Podz both had a multitude of chances that they didn’t finish on and in a year from now or two years from now, they’re going to be finishing all those,” said Boudreau. “It’s the learning curve that they’re going through that maybe they took a little too long or hesitated a little bit too much when they have two-on-ones down low. It’s a great learning experience and they compete. I love the way Pods always goes to the protection of his teammates even if it’s [Nikita] Zadorov, who’s eight feet tall. So, those are some great things when you look at those young guys.”

Oilers lose.
Stars winning in the 3rd.
Bye bye wildcard.

- NewYorkNuck

Saw that interview.

I actually enjoy Bruce post-game interviews compared to Travis Green’s “that’s a good team over there” excuses.


We’ll see but to me it seems like Hog just flat out needs to become a better shooter

I think what I meant isn't coming across. It's not a defeatist attitude, but more an actual question.

If they're making the push, that means they're not selling players off this TDL, which won't restock the depth/youth and cap situation the team so badly needs because they're at best a playoff bubble team. All of us want a cup winning team, and the franchise how it is set up right now and the players coming aren't pushing us into a Colorado/Carolina/Lightning territory. However, the kids gain good experience, they built a better confidence and winning environment, and they're shown management believes in them. They learn, like you said, what it takes to win by having to lose a whole lot. There's lots of upside to it.

On the other hand, if management doesn't think just squeaking into the playoffs is a good long term plan (aka the Jim Benning plan), then having them squeak in and more-than-likely face Colorado and, realistically, probably lose, might not be the best plan for the franchise the next 3, 5 years. They'd miss out on selling high on some players at the TDL (though players could be traded at the draft, just not as many overpayments at that time), and opening up cap and potentially roster spots to sign college and Euro players.

I'm not saying one is better, or even one is the correct path, they both have pros and cons, and compounding pros and cons over years. It's just a question, honestly.
- NewYorkNuck

They just squeaked in when they won their qualifier, followed up by beating the champs and then pushing into a game 7 against the favorites.... so I disagree with this.

Also, if they face the Avs, this means they've advanced in the playoffs... so again, I disagree with your post. Advancing in the playoffs is huge for these kids.

Saw that interview.

I actually enjoy Bruce post-game interviews compared to Travis Green’s “that’s a good team over there” excuses.


We’ll see but to me it seems like Hog just flat out needs to become a better shooter
- Nucker101

Bruce is just more candid. TG seemed like he had the held-over player cliches, just as a coach.

I think, much like Boeser, he's been criticized for his defensive game and he's working on that at the expense of his offense. Hopefully in the off-season he works on his shot – he's been a bit unlucky this year for shooting % I think – and the work he put in on the defense becomes second nature so he can get back to scoring. Still think he'll be a good middle 6 forward.

Read on the Province I think someone linked him to Minny for one of their D prospects. Bracket was high on him, so could see that idea having reason.

They just squeaked in when they won their qualifier, followed up by beating the champs and then pushing into a game 7 against the favorites.... so I disagree with this.

Also, if they face the Avs, this means they've advanced in the playoffs... so again, I disagree with your post. Advancing in the playoffs is huge for these kids.
- boonerbuck

Pretty sure top seed plays bottom seed, no? Top team plays bottom team, no?

Edit: ya, here's the link: https://www.espn.com/nhl/playoffs/matchups

If the Canucks are the second wild card, they play top number one team in the conference, which will be the Avs

Edit 2: ya, they squeaked into the playoffs, beat Blues, then were thoroughly outmatched by Vegas. I suppose Montreal is a fantastic team because they made it to the Finals last year?

I’m cool with a few small guys but they need to be top 6 players and surrounded by some size. Like how Tampa builds teams with guys like Cirelli, Kucherov, Point, etc.

Defense wise I’d say the guys around should all have decent size. I’ve noticed most teams that make deep playoff runs typically only have one smaller dman max.

Like I’d draw the line at Hughes, Garland and maybe Hog if he learns to (frank)ing finish
- Nucker101

I am fine with a couple small guys as well, but they have to be much better than what the Canucks currently have for small forwards.

My foam brick got used for the 1st time during the 2014 nhl draft, when Benning selected the Russian baby and Point was still available.
It happened again in 2016 when they picked Brisebois, who I thought was going to be an NHL player, and left Cirelli on the board.

Benning is an idiot.