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Shuswap Wap
Location: BC
Joined: 02.07.2018

Mar 2 @ 8:03 AM ET
Steak knives? Participation ribbons?

Gillis drained the cupboards and left the team in a crippled state. Folks can brag all they want about good regular season and regular season wins in the weakest division in hockey and he did d1ck all to build the future. He lived off Burke and Nonis selections .

Yippee we made it to the finals one year and got our asses kicked. Embarrassment . Do I need to pull out the Marchand speedbagging Daniel gif again?

- VANTEL

At least the fans were entertained.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Mar 2 @ 8:34 AM ET
At least the fans were entertained.

- Shuswap Wap

😂👍
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: K town
Joined: 09.02.2014

Mar 2 @ 9:19 AM ET
got robbed by cops last time there. Unsecured luggage in back seat. gonna take your passports.... You can pick them up at end of day when my shift ends, when you pay. was on way to airport they knew that wouldn't work.....typical 100$ US in the insurance papers....know of many with similar issues. Been all over Mexico, half dozen trips all different locations.
- SMP8719

Crazy. I’ve heard of people being pulled over for unsecured dog in the back seat but don’t know of anyone that it has happened to.
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: K town
Joined: 09.02.2014

Mar 2 @ 9:22 AM ET
Steak knives? Participation ribbons?

Gillis drained the cupboards and left the team in a crippled state. Folks can brag all they want about good regular season and regular season wins in the weakest division in hockey and he did d1ck all to build the future. He lived off Burke and Nonis selections .

Yippee we made it to the finals one year and got our asses kicked. Embarrassment . Do I need to pull out the Marchand speedbagging Daniel gif again?

- VANTEL


Yes, please do.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Mar 2 @ 9:25 AM ET
Steak knives? Participation ribbons?

Gillis drained the cupboards and left the team in a crippled state. Folks can brag all they want about good regular season and regular season wins in the weakest division in hockey and he did d1ck all to build the future. He lived off Burke and Nonis selections .

Yippee we made it to the finals one year and got our asses kicked. Embarrassment . Do I need to pull out the Marchand speedbagging Daniel gif again?

- VANTEL


Because the prospect pool is so great now?

The team is getting so many participation ribbons now?

Jim Benning makes Mike Milbury look like a genius.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Mar 2 @ 9:38 AM ET
Gotta love the Gillis/Benning era discussions about 2 of the worst GMs in Canucks history.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Mar 2 @ 9:47 AM ET
I was a huge Shinkaruk fan, I used to treat McKenizie's list as the Bible, i didn't watch a single game of any prospects outside of WJHC
- Nucker101

NICK (frank)EN MERKLEY!! repeated like 6 times was pretty good too.

I like Bob's list because it is scouts but scouts do get it wrong sometimes. I try to take consensus of a lot of lists because each person has their own little thing. I feel like even Cam Robinson and Will Scouch have got much better over the past few years, even with their bias of every player under 5'10" deserves to be drafted in the top 100 every year
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Mar 2 @ 9:51 AM ET
This is a dead horse but


From 1999-2000 through 2013-14, the Canucks were the 4th best regular-season team in the NHL.

In the following eight seasons under Benning, they were 26th.

- bloatedmosquito

That's what happens when you poop the bed at drafting.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Mar 2 @ 9:58 AM ET
Because the prospect pool is so great now?

The team is getting so many participation ribbons now?

Jim Benning makes Mike Milbury look like a genius.

- 1970vintage

Drafting players that move past the prospect pool and become NHLer's quickly is a bad thing because you want the prospect pool to look good?

You are getting that ribbon alright.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Mar 2 @ 10:03 AM ET
Because the prospect pool is so great now?

The team is getting so many participation ribbons now?

Jim Benning makes Mike Milbury look like a genius.

- 1970vintage

1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Mar 2 @ 10:10 AM ET
Drafting players that move past the prospect pool and become NHLer's quickly is a bad thing because you want the prospect pool to look good?

You are getting that ribbon alright.

- manvanfan


From what I hear, you don’t win with guys like Pettersson, Boeser, Höglander. So in a decade, they’ve got Hughes and Demko, no prospects, no cap space, no on ice success.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Mar 2 @ 10:15 AM ET
Drafting players that move past the prospect pool and become NHLer's quickly is a bad thing because you want the prospect pool to look good?

You are getting that ribbon alright.

- manvanfan


There are 7 players the Canucks have drafted themselves on the roster, while having no grade A prospects in a very shallow prospect pool. After having a "draft guru" GM. After being one of the worst teams in the league for years.

Tampa has 13 drafted players on their roster.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Mar 2 @ 10:23 AM ET
There are 7 players the Canucks have drafted themselves on the roster, while having no grade A prospects in a very shallow prospect pool. After having a "draft guru" GM. After being one of the worst teams in the league for years.

Tampa has 13 drafted players on their roster.

- NewYorkNuck


How many of the Canucks drafted players are, or have been in the lineup because the team is desperate for talent
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Mar 2 @ 10:23 AM ET
From what I hear, you don’t win with guys like Pettersson, Boeser, Höglander. So in a decade, they’ve got Hughes and Demko, no prospects, no cap space, no on ice success.
- 1970vintage

I wouldn't take hockey buzz at the bible. I've been kind of going back through blogs for like a year now to find some consensus picks for what "we" wanted as a group.

Team would look something like this for 1st round picks up to 2018. (as far as I've got)

Ehlers Rasmussen Tkachuk
Merkley Zadina
Scherbak
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Mar 2 @ 10:29 AM ET
There are 7 players the Canucks have drafted themselves on the roster, while having no grade A prospects in a very shallow prospect pool. After having a "draft guru" GM. After being one of the worst teams in the league for years.

Tampa has 13 drafted players on their roster.

- NewYorkNuck

You show me the 1st 2nd and 3rd overall picks that Canucks got a decade ago. Plus show me the decade the Canucks top picks have been in the league.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 2 @ 10:29 AM ET
From what I hear, you don’t win with guys like Pettersson, Boeser, Höglander. So in a decade, they’ve got Hughes and Demko, no prospects, no cap space, no on ice success.
- 1970vintage


My statement was Petey Hughes and Bo you won't win with . Some fools think taking away the real top talent on the team will help the Canucks . You have to add talent not deplete it
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 2 @ 10:33 AM ET
How many of the Canucks drafted players are, or have been in the lineup because the team is desperate for talent
- Reubenkincade


Thanks Gillis
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Mar 2 @ 10:35 AM ET
My statement was Petey Hughes and Bo you won't win with . Some fools think taking away the real top talent on the team will help the Canucks . You have to add talent not deplete it

- VANTEL


I wasn’t picking on you. I’m saying the general feeling is that the guys who were drafted high, are the teams best players, are not “players you win with”, so they’re basically right back to where they started. That’s pretty pathetic.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Mar 2 @ 10:36 AM ET
My statement was Petey Hughes and Bo you won't win with . Some fools think taking away the real top talent on the team will help the Canucks . You have to add talent not deplete it

- VANTEL

addition by subtraction is a thing.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 2 @ 10:38 AM ET
addition by subtraction is a thing.
- manvanfan


Moving Miller or Garland will not improve this team. Moving Poolman Hamonic Dikie Pearson might.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Mar 2 @ 10:38 AM ET
I wasn’t picking on you. I’m saying the general feeling is that the guys who were drafted high, are the teams best players, are not “players you win with”, so they’re basically right back to where they started. That’s pretty pathetic.
- 1970vintage

Nobody really knows what this means or whether there is any truth to it
DariusKnight
Vancouver Canucks
Location: "The Alien has landed in Vancouver!"
Joined: 03.09.2006

Mar 2 @ 10:38 AM ET
My statement was Petey Hughes and Bo you won't win with . Some fools think taking away the real top talent on the team will help the Canucks . You have to add talent not deplete it

- VANTEL


You can't add unless you get assets, getting rid of lesser players isn't going to get you those adds you need. Sometimes you need to subtract to be able to add, especially if the pieces don't fit or aren't the sort of players you win with. Building around Short Stack, Red Rover and Bo Derek isn't going to change that even with Miller here.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Mar 2 @ 10:40 AM ET
Moving Miller or Garland will not improve this team. Moving Poolman Hamonic Dikie Pearson might.
- VANTEL

What are you realistically going to get in return for those players though? Unless the new regime is going to turn water into wine.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Mar 2 @ 10:41 AM ET
Thanks Gillis

- VANTEL

Canucks fans whining about Jim giving a NMC to one but Gillis gave out full NMC or NTC to what 6 players
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Mar 2 @ 10:44 AM ET
You show me the 1st 2nd and 3rd overall picks that Canucks got a decade ago. Plus show me the decade the Canucks top picks have been in the league.
- manvanfan


Funny enough, Tampa has a #1 and a #2 drafted. Then its #14 (Cal Foote, who's really depth right now). Then #19. Then a whole lot of second and later round picks.

Canucks have had 5 top 10 picks (3 on the actual roster) in their multiple years of sucking under Benning. You'd think a good drafting GM could have unearthed more than that... but maybe not cause he just traded the picks and players away.
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