I wasn’t picking on you. I’m saying the general feeling is that the guys who were drafted high, are the teams best players, are not “players you win with”, so they’re basically right back to where they started. That’s pretty pathetic.
- 1970vintage

I know after the game I attended I said Hughes controls the game and also said I am not a fan of his. The last game against NJD with his play is why I am not a fan. Not saying move him at all but that is the part of his game I don't like.

Petey has a great shot and at times very deceptive. He will get you 20 + goals a year. He is not a superstar as some believe. Not saying trade him at all . I am saying get him better players to play with.

Bo goes invisible for games and games . When he shows up he is dominant. Get him better players.

Canucks fans whining about Jim giving a NMC to one but Gillis gave out full NMC or NTC to what 6 players
- manvanfan

In 2022 we are paying Luongo's recapture . People that don't think we are still paying for Gillis's terrible decisions need to give their head a shake.

Gillis had 9 full NTC or NMC

What are you realistically going to get in return for those players though? Unless the new regime is going to turn water into wine.
- manvanfan

I agree with that comment . I would look at buyout . Pearson is probably tradable .

Funny enough, Tampa has a #1 and a #2 drafted. Then its #14 (Cal Foote, who's really depth right now). Then #19. Then a whole lot of second and later round picks.

Canucks have had 5 top 10 picks (3 on the actual roster) in their multiple years of sucking under Benning. You'd think a good drafting GM could have unearthed more than that... but maybe not cause he just traded the picks and players away.
- NewYorkNuck

Drouin? Kokkoekk? Connelly?

Funny enough, Tampa has a #1 and a #2 drafted. Then its #14 (Cal Foote, who's really depth right now). Then #19. Then a whole lot of second and later round picks.

Canucks have had 5 top 10 picks (3 on the actual roster) in their multiple years of sucking under Benning. You'd think a good drafting GM could have unearthed more than that... but maybe not cause he just traded the picks and players away.
- NewYorkNuck

Benning was a disaster, trading Miller & the Angry Elf will start repairing that.

I agree with that comment . I would look at buyout . Pearson is probably tradable .
- VANTEL

Teams can only have 3 buyouts. Canucks have two for next season. Thanks Benning. Now the new regime is paying for Benning's mistakes. Don't forget the Halak bonus now, that's pretty much a buyout in itself.

That is why I would look at trading Garland or Boeser. I like Hoglander, lots of potential still but if someone wanted to give up a good young D for him, I would take it.

Team needs to move Myers and OEL down. It's not much different than Schmidt and Edler last season. 2nd pairings reasonable. Asking them to play against other teams top lines. Just can't keep happening if they plan on getting better.

Schenn last couple games, teams have really figured out to just dump it around him and skate past him. He's a 3rd pairing guy and that's it. Good for toughness but as long as it's 15 minutes a game.

Nobody really knows what this means or whether there is any truth to it
- NorthNuck

Who knows. I don’t think Pettersson or Hughes, or Boeser or Horvat or even Myers is THE problem.

But Boudreau clearly thinks there is a problem, based on his comments.

Who knows. I don’t think Pettersson or Hughes, or Boeser or Horvat or even Myers is THE problem.

But Boudreau clearly thinks there is a problem, based on his comments.
- 1970vintage

What comments are these? (not being sarcastic, just haven't heard him say anything lately that would allude to their being "a problem")

Benning was a disaster, trading Miller & the Angry Elf will start repairing that.
- Marwood

As much as I would like to keep Miller, as he is by far the teams best player, he is the player that makes the most sense to trade, as he should bring back a couple of potentially quality players/prospects and hopefully a pick.
If I am Sakic in Colorado, I would be seriously looking at acquiring him. They have their window open now and face the realistic possibility of losing Kadri to free-agency.
By acquiring Miller, he not only helps for the cup run this season, but also provides a replacement for the almost inevitable, which is losing their 2nd line centre and possibly the teams season MVP in Kadri.
I guess it boils down to, how bad do you want the cup and what are you willing to sacrifice to get that coveted trophy.

What comments are these? (not being sarcastic, just haven't heard him say anything lately that would allude to their being "a problem")
- manvanfan

Can't say I have heard Bruce say anything, but Allvin has definitely expressed concern about inconsistencies on this roster.
So, with that, I don't believe it really matters if Bruce likes all the players on this team, the GM will make moves accordingly.
Hopefully, when he does pull the trigger, he makes the right decisions.

Drouin? Kokkoekk? Connelly?
- manvanfan

I was talking about players they drafted that are on their team. They drafted other players, but they don't play for them. So, I think that looks worse on Benning...

As much as I would like to keep Miller, as he is by far the teams best player, he is the player that makes the most sense to trade, as he should bring back a couple of potentially quality players/prospects and hopefully a pick.
If I am Sakic in Colorado, I would be seriously looking at acquiring him. They have their window open now and face the realistic possibility of losing Kadri to free-agency.
By acquiring Miller, he not only helps for the cup run this season, but also provides a replacement for the almost inevitable, which is losing their 2nd line centre and possibly the teams season MVP in Kadri.
I guess it boils down to, how bad do you want the cup and what are you willing to sacrifice to get that coveted trophy.
- Reubenkincade

I hope there is a bidding war for him.

Can't say I have heard Bruce say anything, but Allvin has definitely expressed concern about inconsistencies on thos roster.
So, with that, I don't believe it really matters if Bruce likes all the players on this team, the GM will make moves accordingly.
Hopefully, when he does pull the trigger, he makes the right decisions.
- Reubenkincade

Allvin did say something about not having good practice habits. We have heard in the past about Mackinnon's practice habits of yelling at anyone and everyone about not doing everything 1500%.

Between injuries and covid, Petey has only played 220 NHL regular season games. He has essentially lost 108 games of experience over the past 4 years. That's quite a bit.

As much as I would like to keep Miller, as he is by far the teams best player, he is the player that makes the most sense to trade, as he should bring back a couple of potentially quality players/prospects and hopefully a pick.
If I am Sakic in Colorado, I would be seriously looking at acquiring him. They have their window open now and face the realistic possibility of losing Kadri to free-agency.
By acquiring Miller, he not only helps for the cup run this season, but also provides a replacement for the almost inevitable, which is losing their 2nd line centre and possibly the teams season MVP in Kadri.
I guess it boils down to, how bad do you want the cup and what are you willing to sacrifice to get that coveted trophy.
- Reubenkincade

Colorado doesn’t need him right now. They need maybe a shut down dman and that’s about it. They also already traded their first and second for this year away so not much left for assets to give up.

I was talking about players they drafted that are on their team. They drafted other players, but they don't play for them. So, I think that looks worse on Benning...
- NewYorkNuck

You were talking about drafting inside the top 10. What you do with them after has nothing to do with drafting.

I hope there is a bidding war for him.
- Marwood

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Can't say I have heard Bruce say anything, but Allvin has definitely expressed concern about inconsistencies on this roster.
So, with that, I don't believe it really matters if Bruce likes all the players on this team, the GM will make moves accordingly.
Hopefully, when he does pull the trigger, he makes the right decisions.
- Reubenkincade

Bruce has said no one has talked to him about trading Miller or Garland. When Dhaliwal Freidman or Drance take over as GM then I might believe the bullsh1t more.

Since Bruce win % and projected final standing.

Canucks .667 Projected pace 36+58= 94
Kings .661 37+65= 102
Flames .648 41+70 =111
Knights .600 34+64= 98
Oilers .500 28+63 =91
Ducks .500 26+61 = 87

Sharks and Kraken are bye bye


Chasing
Predators .638 37+64= 101
Stars .565 34+61=95

You were talking about drafting inside the top 10. What you do with them after has nothing to do with drafting.
- manvanfan

Nah man. My original thing was how many players the Canucks drafted that are playing on their team (7), and said Tampa has 13 on their current roster. Then you talked about draft position, so I pointed out how many of that 13 were drafted high (2 top end, 4 first round), saying out of the players on the Canucks right now they drafted 4 of theirs in the top 10.

My point is about how much of the team and prospect pool is made up from JB's draft guru-ness. Which is not as much as you'd expect from a draft guru.

You were talking about drafting inside the top 10. What you do with them after has nothing to do with drafting.
- manvanfan

Zlodeyev 2 G 1 A today in MHL game

NICK (frank)EN MERKLEY!! repeated like 6 times was pretty good too.

I like Bob's list because it is scouts but scouts do get it wrong sometimes. I try to take consensus of a lot of lists because each person has their own little thing. I feel like even Cam Robinson and Will Scouch have got much better over the past few years, even with their bias of every player under 5'10" deserves to be drafted in the top 100 every year
- manvanfan

(frank)ing Merkley


I do like how there are more guys out there actually watching these guys play full games and forming their own conclusions since these games you can find streams of most of the top leagues either legally or illegally. There’s definitely a lot of groupthink still out there but that’s natural with drafts.

Bruce has said no one has talked to him about trading Miller or Garland. When Dhaliwal Freidman or Drance take over as GM then I might believe the bullsh1t more.

- VANTEL

Didn't know coaches make trades.

Bob became known as the best mostly because he was one of, if not the only person putting out the information, back in his Hockey News days.

Back then, there wasn't the access to the information or viewings that are available today, which allows many to try imitate Bob in some way.
One thing Bob has never changed with his rankings is the use of real nhl scouts for his rankings.
His rankings are usually pretty good although definitely not perfect.
- Reubenkincade

Bob doesn’t watch prospects.

Benning was a disaster, trading Miller & the Angry Elf will start repairing that.
- Marwood

Lol

Didn't know coaches make trades.
- Marwood

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