coming from the guy who chased jeremy roenick in a Walmart parking lot for an autograph.

Don't be mad you were not good enough to play n that league. Even though many schools in that league are right in your own backyard.
- hello it's me 2050

Haha I’m soo hurt, you must have been an all star huh. How’d that work out for you?

I think part of the point there is we have been hearing baseless rumors from some that the flyers don’t use analytics which we now know to be false.

They already had a large staff and have since added to that of late.

If only all of the Data could have predicted, Ellis, Hayes and Ex Selke going down and also most likely of their decent prospects.
- Joe Nardone

I dont think the GM listens to his analytics peeps.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nhl/re-signing-rasmus-ristolainen-would-be-a-colossal-mistake-for-chuck-fletcher-flyers/ar-AAUMQsK?ocid=msedgntp


Now, let’s compare Ristolainen’s numbers to the rest of the league.

Through March 6th, 102 defensemen played at least 800 minutes at 5-on-5 play. Ristolainen has the 16th-worst GA/60, 15th-worst SCA/60, 12th-worst HDCA/60, and finally the eighth-worst xGA/60. For a defenseman that is supposed to defend the net and limit goals (and chances!), Ristolainen is doing pretty poorly.
- hello it's me 2050

Yet the question remains, with the Flyers' investing to bolster their analytics department, why would the Flyers want to resign Risto if his "real" analytics were really that bad? Either Fletcher is ignoring the guidance of his newly bolstered analytics department that he himself invested in because of some wild idea that he doesn't want to admit he was wrong about Risto, or that maybe, just maybe, Risto's analytics according to analytical professionals are really not that bad.

what kind of new truck?
- hello it's me 2050

Pretty much any. You can get new EV's for as little as $29K (Nissan Leaf). They are not all priced like Tesla.

many cant afford 50+ for a new car. EV are in that price range no?
- hello it's me 2050

Mine was a 2019 BMW CPO w/ a year left on the original warranty and I got it for $33k out the door. That was during the first months of the chip crisis too. Probably could have gotten it for $4-5k cheaper if I had bought a bit earlier.

When are you actually going to present some evidence that Hextall shut out his scouts?
- MJL

I have it on an unnamed, but trusted inside source with many years of experience and knowledge of the situation.

So what? Analytics are part of the overall assessment of the player, not the entire assessment. Also, with the Flyers' bolstered analytics department, why would the Flyers want to resign Risto if his "real" analytics were really that bad?
- jd250

Sure, analytics are not the end all be all. His traditional stats are nothing to write home about either. I also think he grades out poorly via the eye test. I don't think I've seen a better net front presence play for the Flyers since Simmonds. Unfortunately, his net front presence comes in regards to goals against.

Yet the question remains, with the Flyers' investing to bolster their analytics department, why would the Flyers want to resign Risto if his "real" analytics were really that bad? Either Fletcher is ignoring the guidance of his newly bolstered analytics department that he himself invested in because of some wild idea that he doesn't want to admit he was wrong about Risto, or that maybe, just maybe, Risto's analytics according to analytical professionals are really not that bad.
- jd250

Because Fletcher is a buffoon is why.

Newly bolstered lol. Why didn't he listen to his analytics when he signed Chris Stewart? He flat out admitted he ignored their advice and signed him anyway.

RR anlayics are bad. That is a fact. Is there some diff from what is made public and the flyers proprietary data? Yes more than likely. Not enough to polish that turd however.

Mine was a 2019 BMW CPO w/ a year left on the original warranty and I got it for $33k out the door. That was during the first months of the chip crisis too. Probably could have gotten it for $4-5k cheaper if I had bought a bit earlier.
- Tomahawk

A BMW C3PO?

I have it on an unnamed, but trusted inside source with many years of experience and knowledge of the situation.
- jd250

Can that source shed some light on the analytics that show Risto is a good player?

Yet the question remains, with the Flyers' investing to bolster their analytics department, why would the Flyers want to resign Risto if his "real" analytics were really that bad? Either Fletcher is ignoring the guidance of his newly bolstered analytics department that he himself invested in because of some wild idea that he doesn't want to admit he was wrong about Risto, or that maybe, just maybe, Risto's analytics according to analytical professionals are really not that bad.
- jd250

Flyers are playing catchup in the analytics game. They're years behind the curve already. Hiring a couple of new faces doesn't mean they've caught up, it just means they're still in the process of building out the dept.

And I'm sure Fletch does listen to what Ian Anderson has to say. He just also has Bob Clarke in his ear all the time. And Dave Scott breathing down his neck. I don't see the dept of analytics winning many internal battles anytime soon.

A BMW C3PO?
- ClaudeFather

Technically yes because the CPO gives an additional 3-years of warranty

G is the prize get for TD, pressure for CF, will he wilt or lean in....

What about someone like Panarin, who is vehemently and vocally anti-Putin?
- bmeltzer

Is he still a Russian national? If his family is still there he is screwed either way.
Let him renounce his citizenship if there are no family members to torture

Sure, analytics are not the end all be all. His traditional stats are nothing to write home about either. I also think he grades out poorly via the eye test. I don't think I've seen a better net front presence play for the Flyers since Simmonds. Unfortunately, his net front presence comes in regards to goals against.
- TobyFlenderson

Interesting article written by Bundy about analytics.


https://www.crossingbroad...is-therien-finds-out.html

Yet the question remains, with the Flyers' investing to bolster their analytics department, why would the Flyers want to resign Risto if his "real" analytics were really that bad? Either Fletcher is ignoring the guidance of his newly bolstered analytics department that he himself invested in because of some wild idea that he doesn't want to admit he was wrong about Risto, or that maybe, just maybe, Risto's analytics according to analytical professionals are really not that bad.
- jd250

The eye test matches up with the poor analytics.

Flyers are playing catchup in the analytics game. They're years behind the curve already. Hiring a couple of new faces doesn't mean they've caught up, it just means they're still in the process of building out the dept.

And I'm sure Fletch does listen to what Ian Anderson has to say. He just also has Bob Clarke in his ear all the time. And Dave Scott breathing down his neck. I don't see the dept of analytics winning many internal battles anytime soon.
- Tomahawk

When I read the article that Bill wrote for the Flyers.com and the comments of Anderson. What struck me the most was the tactics that Anderson was describing have been used for over a decade in the NHL. Even longer than that.

I have it on an unnamed, but trusted inside source with many years of experience and knowledge of the situation.
- jd250

Exactly what I thought. It's too easy for me.

Interesting article written by Bundy about analytics.


https://www.crossingbroad...is-therien-finds-out.html
- MBFlyerfan

good read and he reported it well.

good read and he reported it well.
- hello it's me 2050

Im betting one of those coaches is Berube, possibly Ken Hitchcock could be another.

Interesting article written by Bundy about analytics.


https://www.crossingbroad...is-therien-finds-out.html
- MBFlyerfan

Saw that article this morning, thought it was a good read. I think it lines up with what most people thought, coaches were a little hesitant to use analytics at first but now use them as a supplemental tool.

Also thought the Gallant part was interesting considering the Rangers are getting walloped in every analytical category but still have one of the better teams in the league thanks to Shesterkin and some good special teams.

Yet the question remains, with the Flyers' investing to bolster their analytics department, why would the Flyers want to resign Risto if his "real" analytics were really that bad? Either Fletcher is ignoring the guidance of his newly bolstered analytics department that he himself invested in because of some wild idea that he doesn't want to admit he was wrong about Risto, or that maybe, just maybe, Risto's analytics according to analytical professionals are really not that bad.
- jd250

He’s also 4th over all in d man hits….65th over all in TOI….and despite not getting very much pp time is in the top 2/3 of the league in d man points and assist as well as shots on goal. Sounds like a top 4 d man to me….and considering the year they’ve had I think his numbers will probably get better next whether he’s here or not.

Interesting article written by Bundy about analytics.


https://www.crossingbroad...is-therien-finds-out.html
- MBFlyerfan

Coaches: "We all do the same things, because it’s pretty standard stuff."

Lol, that's kinda the point of diving into the data... sniffing for any competitive advantage that you can find and then exploiting it.

AKA not doing the same things as everybody else.

Also thought the Gallant part was interesting considering the Rangers are getting walloped in every analytical category but still have one of the better teams in the league thanks to Shesterkin and some good special teams.
- TobyFlenderson

If something happens to Shesterkin, they're toast. He's having one of the best seasons of all time.

(he's literally spotting them a goal per game, .926 goals saved above expected per 60)

Im betting one of those coaches is Berube, possibly Ken Hitchcock could be another.
- MBFlyerfan

It was a really good article with good insight. The comments of coach 3 were the best in my opinion. He summed it up. The best quote was below.

"“For instance, we have a guy who is a good defender. Good stick-on-puck work. In the right position. Blocks a lot of shots. Strong on the walls. Cancels out guys at net-front – all pretty reliably. By his analytics (though), he is way underwater. But he’s earned our trust."