I’ve stated my point about cam and Jake trade but I think looking at Jakes stats this year, you really need to factor in he’s playing with one of the best shooters in the game. We don’t have that here. Maybe he’s top 35 in assists here rather than top 15 there.
- ClaudeFather

And who is Ghost playing with that has him up to 36 points, 16 more than any Flyers dman? All that elite talent in Arizona makes it easy to score, right.

Caahtahhhhh Haaaaaaaaht looked great last night!!!!! OscarStong looked really fast on that wrap-around. Two positives in an otherwise dismal year! An entertaining game for sure!

I would love to know the real reason Prorovov is a permanent fixture on the power play despite looking like a deer in headlights out there. Yeo joked about using Braun on the PP last night, but being ranked 31st in the league isn't funny. With results that bad, I don't get why the coaches are afraid to make major changes.

And that delay of game penalty from Provy would have been a bad one for a rookie to take. Luckily for him the other dmen were able to kill off his stupid mistake.
- Feanor

Totally agree. This season is over, making this the perfect time to try out some new looks. Especially if they're planning to re-tool and expect to be right back in the playoff bubble mix next year. Beyond frustrating

And who is Ghost playing with that has him up to 36 points, 16 more than any Flyers dman? All that elite talent in Arizona makes it easy to score, right.
- Feanor

Do you think Ghost would be playin 21.52 minutes per night on this team (maybe now not all year)?

Do you think Ghost would be on the top power play on this team?

Do you think Ghost would have the carte blanche he has on that team on this team?

This was a perfect example of a goalie stealing you a game, because Hart literally had to stand on his head to make a save when Risto and Pach went crashing into him in the 3rd period. One thing that really jumped out at me is the speed and skill of Vegas in their top 6, especially with Eichel now and when Stone comes back. The Flyers are no where close to this and to me this has to be Fletcher's top priority, to rebuild the team's top 6. Hayes, Laughton and Cam should be the Flyers 3rd line. That leaves Couts and Bee as your only top 6 players, and thus Fletcher needs 1 top 6 center and 3 wingers. Maybe Frost is your 2C next season? He either is or needs to be traded to bolster the Flyers top 6. With Hart playing well, a defense next season anchored by Ellis, Provey, Sanheim and York, and with a plethora of 4th line players, Fletcher has got to focus all his energy on rebuilding the Flyers top 6.
- jd250

Chuck can focus all the "energy" he wants on rebuilding the top 6. The fact is the Flyers don't have the cap space or assets to do that in one off season.
Atkinson is a top 6 player on this team, and should be counted as such heading into next season. Planning for when Cam Atkinson's game slips from top 6 to third line shouldn't be on Chuck's radar heading into this offseason.

Is it a coincidence that the more NHL forwards the Flyers have playing, the better they are play? They are down to 2 AHL forwards, Mayhew and Brown. No one wants to see it but when Thompson comes back, Mayhew is the odd man out.

Hysterical. Not every player makes the NHL right away, Claude Giroux didn't make the NHL right away. One of the players you mentioned in Mark Stone played two years in the AHL. I could go on and on and believe me, I know I'm completely wasting my time but I find it very entertaining.
- MJL

In the cases you mention, Stone, G, etc. those players showed promise of being impact players in the NHL, has Frost? He can't even do it consistently at the AHL level, nor could be even be the best player on his line in the NHL playing with two AHL players. You're right about one thing, this is hysterical!

Yes, 16th playing with one of the best pure snipers in the game. How many assists would he have on the Flyers right now if not traded?
- jd250

So his even strength assists / 60 last season in 53 games was 2.1. This season with CBJ in 55 games it is 1.9.

The reason he has more assists this year is because of the powerplay. He has 6.0 / 60 compared to 3.5 last year. If we go back to when the PP was good in Philly (17-18), his rate was 6.4 / 60.

I would love to know the real reason Prorovov is a permanent fixture on the power play despite looking like a deer in headlights out there. Yeo joked about using Braun on the PP last night, but being ranked 31st in the league isn't funny. With results that bad, I don't get why the coaches are afraid to make major changes.

And that delay of game penalty from Provy would have been a bad one for a rookie to take. Luckily for him the other dmen were able to kill off his stupid mistake.
- Feanor

Two words:

Salary

that is beyond laughable
- hello it's me 2050

Again it goes back to the problem Fletcher and his staff need to solve. Its not about Frost, its about getting top end talent in the top 6 of this roster. If Frost is going to be a consistent 2C behind Couts, not by Flyers' standards but by league standards, then you keep and develop him. If not, he is not part of the solution here and you trade him. Hayes and Laughton have the bottom two center spots on this team and Couts is the 1C. The Flyers need a true 1C/2C player on this roster.

Coots and Hayes locked as starting centers next season. Who doesn’t believe CF will not even look to get a center in the off-season???

The question- so why not let Frost play at wing or center?

Jonathan Huberdeau has 60 assists in 57 games, that is what I would consider elite. Jake is 16th in the league in assists and not even in the top 50 in scoring, so that is not elite by any definition. There is nothing that Cam does that is elite IMO also.
- jd250

16th out of 953 players. That's top 1.6%. Pretty (frank)ing elite lol.

So his even strength assists / 60 last season in 53 games was 2.1. This season with CBJ in 55 games it is 1.9.

The reason he has more assists this year is because of the powerplay. He has 6.0 / 60 compared to 3.5 last year. If we go back to when the PP was good in Philly (17-18), his rate was 6.4 / 60.
- atibus

Ok, so since the PP is about talent more than anything else, when Jake plays with talented players who actually score, he gets more assists. Seems right to me.

16th out of 953 players. That's top 1.6%. Pretty (frank)ing elite lol.
- Tomahawk

I think we are throwing around Elite pretty liberally here. Jake is a good playmaker, he is not elite. Again Jonathan Huberdeau is an elite play maker. Connor MacDavid is an elite play maker. Wayne Gretzky was an elite play maker. Marcel Dionne was an elite play maker. Jake is not.

Voracek is also 1 of the best in the NHL at offensive entries on the PP; anyone saying our team hasn’t missed his entries are insane. It’s hilarious how many fans have simply ignored his stats
- arichardson22

Is he as good as Huberdeau at entries tho????

Carter Hart.
- Scoob

4.38 goals saved above expected last night.

Again it goes back to the problem Fletcher and his staff need to solve. Its not about Frost, its about getting top end talent in the top 6 of this roster. If Frost is going to be a consistent 2C behind Couts, not by Flyers' standards but by league standards, then you keep and develop him. If not, he is not part of the solution here and you trade him. Hayes and Laughton have the bottom two center spots on this team and Couts is the 1C. The Flyers need a true 1C/2C player on this roster.
- jd250

Plain dumb. So if Frost is a 3rd line center he has no future with the flyers? Again just silly.

Do you think Ghost would be playin 21.52 minutes per night on this team (maybe now not all year)?

Do you think Ghost would be on the top power play on this team?

Do you think Ghost would have the carte blanche he has on that team on this team?
- hello it's me 2050

I wasn’t even going to respond but this sums it up well

I think we are throwing around Elite pretty liberally here. Jake is a good playmaker, he is not elite. Again Jonathan Huberdeau is an elite play maker. Connor MacDavid is an elite play maker. Wayne Gretzky was an elite play maker. Marcel Dionne was an elite play maker. Jake is not.
- jd250

Did you know Jake ranks 9th in total assists since 2008?

The only guys ahead of him: Crosby, Backstrom, Kane, Getzlaf, Giroux, Kopitar, Thornton, Malkin

That's some elite company if you ask me.

Brink will need sime time in the ahl to work on the defensive aspects of his game. Cant have players not willing to play a 200ft game
- corduroy

It's funny because its true. He wont see any NHL ice until they have browbeaten all the creativity out of his offensive game.

Do you think when hextall traded Brayden Schenn, Hextall overestimated his drafting abilities?

4.38 goals saved above expected last night.
- Tomahawk

I really hope they get the rest of the team back on track soon so they don't waste him.

Did you know Jake ranks 9th in total assists since 2008?

The only guys ahead of him: Crosby, Backstrom, Kane, Getzlaf, Giroux, Kopitar, Thornton, Malkin

That's some elite company if you ask me.
- Tomahawk

So Jake is elite now? Or over the course of his career? Big difference. And why only look at his assists deciding how good a player jake is? Lets talk about his defense now if were done admiring his assist totals in his career

It's funny because its true. He wont see any NHL ice until they have browbeaten all the creativity out of his offensive game.
- MBFlyerfan

Depends as he may make them play him this year or he can say he wont sign. Same with the other college guys.

Though in general yes they will remove all of his creativity.

Kudos to Carter Hart and it’s always great to see Oskar score. The rest of the team was hot garbage and the guy running the pp is actually starting to make me miss Therrien.
- BiggE

That is where I am. It's great to see Hart having a bounce back year. He's been much better than his numbers indicate due to playing behind a Chinese fire drill. Excellent to see Oskar playing well too. Will always root for him and never criticize him with what he has had to endure.