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jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Mar 10 @ 10:19 AM ET
Just shows how clueless you are. Do you think his analytics were doing him in when supposedly 8 teams were willing to pony up for him?
- ClaudeFather

There is a difference between ponying up a late first round pick and then extending the player. Fletcher almost had to extend Risto if the price was right given what he gave up, which as Fletcher stated was the highest pick available to Buffalo in exchange for Risto. My point here is not that teams would not want Risto, its more about what they would be willing to do to extend him. I'm sure a lot of teams would take Risto on a 5 x $5M deal.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Mar 10 @ 10:19 AM ET
So when does news drop of a partial NTC or NMC? Truly a player of Risto's caliber deserves it.

Chuck is the master negotiator.

- StepfordSam


The NTC/NMC is the only thing that scares me...if there is none then it is still possible they trade him. Otherwise it is all dependent on the health of Ellis next year.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Mar 10 @ 10:20 AM ET
Lol. Are you a paid consultant for Fletcher? If so, you should disclose that conflict of interest.
- Minnyhock

So in your mind if I don't come on this forum and spew hatred for this franchise, ownership, leadership and players I must be working for Fletcher??
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Mar 10 @ 10:20 AM ET
If close to $5M per, I can live with Risto on this team. Think about it, you walk into next season with Ellis/Provorov, Sanheim/Risto and a better 3rd pairing, say York/Attard or York/FA the defense will be significantly better. Big assumption here is Ellis stays healthy for the most part.
- jd250


5 MIL RIGHT TERM, I AM OK, as long as there is a real plan to have quality 6 D and depth. Risto slotted right brings value.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Mar 10 @ 10:21 AM ET
Two totally different players
- ClaudeFather


In theory both second pairing dmen. So comparison certainly applicable.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Mar 10 @ 10:21 AM ET
This is the worst organization in the history of mankind
- PhillySportsGuy


They never fail to disappoint
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Mar 10 @ 10:21 AM ET
It’s really not that bad of a contract.
- ClaudeFather


Big, physical right handed d man. Moves very well for a big guy. Solid transition out of his own end. 4 40 +point seasons under his belt….top 5 in hits. Entering his prime years. Contract is actually very fair for both sides.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Mar 10 @ 10:22 AM ET
In theory both second pairing dmen. So comparison certainly applicable.
- PLindbergh31

Quite a broad category haha, there’s what 62 of them around the league .
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Mar 10 @ 10:22 AM ET
5 MIL RIGHT TERM, I AM OK, as long as their is a real plan to have quality 6 D and depth. Risto slotted right brings value.
- wcorvette



Interesting Dreger also reported that perhaps this spells the end of Sanheim.
StepfordSam
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.06.2017

Mar 10 @ 10:23 AM ET
The reload is going exactly as planned. The pieces are slowly falling into place. Now they just need to get another elite piece or two and they will be right back into the thick of things next season.

The best thing is Chuck still has resources at his disposal to maximize the roster and compete NEXT year! He is going to wheel and deal this team back to glory, which wasn't that long ago by the way.

This stretch is but a blip in the road. The Flyers are the Gold Standard. Just ask my buddy Phil. He was at the finals back in 1975 when he was 40 years old. He knows a winner when he sees one. And I trust the hockey people.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Mar 10 @ 10:23 AM ET
There is a difference between ponying up a late first round pick and then extending the player. Fletcher almost had to extend Risto if the price was right given what he gave up, which as Fletcher stated was the highest pick available to Buffalo in exchange for Risto. My point here is not that teams would not want Risto, its more about what they would be willing to do to extend him. I'm sure a lot of teams would take Risto on a 5 x $5M deal.
- jd250

In no way did you explain your analytics claim. You’re wrong, as usual.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 10 @ 10:23 AM ET
They never fail to disappoint
- Tomahawk


Team is run by complete idiots
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Mar 10 @ 10:24 AM ET
Can't wait to watch Risto's screenedgoalies/60 skyrocket in the next 5 years.
- TobyFlenderson


fancy!!! lol
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Mar 10 @ 10:24 AM ET
Quite a broad category haha, there’s what 62 of them around the league .
- ClaudeFather


Similar age and contracts, and polarizing players. What aren’t you seeing?
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Mar 10 @ 10:24 AM ET
Interesting Dreger also reported that perhaps this spells the end of Sanheim.
- landros 2

We are moving on from Braun, Ellis can’t even play. How is this the end of Sanheim?
TobyFlenderson
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Annex, Scranton, PA
Joined: 06.13.2013

Mar 10 @ 10:24 AM ET
Interesting Dreger also reported that perhaps this spells the end of Sanheim.
- landros 2

Yep, unfortunately the better defenseman will get shipped out
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Mar 10 @ 10:25 AM ET
Similar age and contracts, and polarizing players. What aren’t you seeing?
- PLindbergh31

They’re polarizing so it’s an automatic comparison when their playing style is vastly different?
StepfordSam
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.06.2017

Mar 10 @ 10:25 AM ET
Sanheim is a wimp. I want to see him off this team too. He doesn't even hit people. No room on this team for someone that doesn't stand up for their teammates.

That isn't how winning is done.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Mar 10 @ 10:26 AM ET
I hate when people post “I said this and everyone got so mad but now I’m right”. When? Nobody is keeping track of your posts, nor does anyone care to.
- SuperSchennBros


spot on, sir!

why would anyone give a flying frank what anyone said and who said it first?
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Mar 10 @ 10:27 AM ET
Yep, unfortunately the better defenseman will get shipped out
- TobyFlenderson


Those fancy analytic so and so's are full of nonsense. At least we have more of them now.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Mar 10 @ 10:28 AM ET
We are moving on from Braun, Ellis can’t even play. How is this the end of Sanheim?
- ClaudeFather

Ask Darren Dreger…I have liked Sanheims game in the last month.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 10 @ 10:28 AM ET
Yep, unfortunately the better defenseman will get shipped out
- TobyFlenderson


He really should just ask for a trade at this point. It’s like they want to torture him
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Mar 10 @ 10:28 AM ET
They’re polarizing so it’s an automatic comparison when their playing style is vastly different?
- ClaudeFather


I think the playing style is more similar than you think. They both seem to excel at allowing the opponent access to prime scoring chances. That's all that matters in the end.
Minnyhock
Minnesota Wild
Joined: 06.26.2021

Mar 10 @ 10:29 AM ET
So in your mind if I don't come on this forum and spew hatred for this franchise, ownership, leadership and players I must be working for Fletcher??
- jd250


I’ll take that as a no. I enjoy your posts jd and your positive take.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Mar 10 @ 10:30 AM ET
Interesting Dreger also reported that perhaps this spells the end of Sanheim.
- landros 2


Not sure if Im a fan of that or not. The only thing I dislike about Sanheim is the lack of Muscle. Im not really sure I understand why the signing means Sanheim is gone when they play opposite sides
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