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wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Mar 12 @ 11:58 AM ET
Why is Sanheim the one to trade?
- MJL


I don't agree with it and I would not, but due to contract and depth on the left side.
konalover711
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PHX, AZ
Joined: 10.20.2015

Mar 12 @ 11:59 AM ET
I think everyone is disappointed by his play. The real question is why it's so subpar. This is what happens when a good player falls out of favor. It was the same things with Gostisbehere and Voracek. You started reading about negative character issues being floated around. It's a symptom of a dysfunctional organization.
- MJL

Agreed!!

Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Mar 12 @ 12:04 PM ET
It's simple, they're going to go all out in free agency if they can obtain cap space. I used to get excited during the day knowing there was a Flyers game on at night. I used to anticipate October, waiting for the season to start. Now I find myself getting bored watching a game.
- MJL



Watch less flyers. Pick another young exciting team to watch.

GO CANES!!!
konalover711
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PHX, AZ
Joined: 10.20.2015

Mar 12 @ 12:04 PM ET
Bill, the story of the day is return of Wade Allison.
I am assuming you watched the game. I believe Wade scored a goal in his last 4 consecutive games for Phantoms.
He clearly has the mojo and the shot to be a 20+ goal scorer for Flyers.
My question is how do we keep this kid on the ice?
His tendency to play hard, or even recklessly at times, seems to contribute to his injury problems. Last night was another example with the sliced hand.
He seems to be strong/developed enough to handle rigors of everyday NHL physicality.
Should the coaching staff attempt to tweak his style of play for the sake of durability?

- biggbear77

Dude is accident prone, see last night's near severed tendon.
Maybe that dodged bullet for him means he is now no longer jinxed and he will go on an iron man streak....

Minnyhock
Minnesota Wild
Joined: 06.26.2021

Mar 12 @ 12:06 PM ET
Jake with a tough hit last night. I had thought the jackets were making a move and then looked. 13 points out with around 20 to go.
- ClaudeFather


That was a scary hit. Foligno caught him a little with the shoulder but he clearly stuck his leg out. Jake is an elite passer that refuses to shoot. Wild were cheating knowing he’d pass. Jackets got blown out the night before but came to play. Announcer said this was their best game in awhile. Wild still dominated but couldn’t finish.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Mar 12 @ 12:08 PM ET
I think everyone is disappointed by his play. The real question is why it's so subpar. This is what happens when a good player falls out of favor. It was the same things with Gostisbehere and Voracek. You started reading about negative character issues being floated around. It's a symptom of a dysfunctional organization.
- MJL

Could be many reasons (on the player and the team). Funny though how you blame the organization for everyone's failures/regression. At some point when does the player become accountable? He has been in the league what 6 years now?

Maybe some of these guys just are not as good as you though/want them to be. Nah that cant be itl.
Peter Richards
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Mar 12 @ 12:12 PM ET
Could be many reasons (on the player and the team). Funny though how you blame the organization for everyone's failures/regression. At some point when does the player become accountable? He has been in the league what 6 years now?

Maybe some of these guys just are not as good as you though/want them to be. Nah that cant be itl.

- hello it's me 2050


lol...and applies to provie but not RR
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Mar 12 @ 12:15 PM ET
lol...and applies to provie but not RR
- Peter Richards


what applies to "provy" but not RR?
Peter Richards
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Mar 12 @ 12:16 PM ET
what applies to "provy" but not RR?
- hello it's me 2050


being the guy at a young age on a struggling team...... false expectations
Fopa21
Joined: 05.12.2021

Mar 12 @ 12:20 PM ET
lol...and applies to provie but not RR
- Peter Richards


This team has been so disgusting to watch for years now with their inconsistency. At least RR is consistently giving 100% effort. Pencil him in for 4+ hits a game. Is he out of position sometimes sure but at least you see real compete. You can’t pencil anyone else in for anything ahead of the game because of how fragile & inconsistent these bumms are. How is the fan base not sick of minimal effort & continued inconsistency. I’d much rather watch/have guys give 100% effort like MacEwen, RR & Atkinson whether they are the worst players on earth or not show some heart effort pride don’t fold like lawn chairs disappear for 10+ games play 18+ minutes & have all zeros across the board. Positioning can be taught effort can not be. It’s a joke
Bob Habib
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.01.2020

Mar 12 @ 12:21 PM ET
It's simple, they're going to go all out in free agency if they can obtain cap space. I used to get excited during the day knowing there was a Flyers game on at night. I used to anticipate October, waiting for the season to start. Now I find myself getting bored watching a game.
- MJL

I stopped watching the games because the product on ice is a disgrace.
I used to look forward to free agency while I wondered who the flyers would sign that year. Now I get nervous and worry about who CF is going to trade, sign, or extend goof forward. It's not exciting anymore. It's more depressing and head scratching than anything else
How many years away do you think exciting hockey is at this point? 3?
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Mar 12 @ 12:24 PM ET
Bill any thoughts on how the last 10 days or so in the AHL have helped Frost? Will he assume his spot on the 4th line?
- hello it's me 2050


He is playing in the top 6 today, as a matter of fact.
Bob Habib
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.01.2020

Mar 12 @ 12:27 PM ET
It's obvious to me. Provorov has been beaten down by having to be the guy every night with no help. On a team that is dysfunctional in it's team and systems play. It's just been too much and I wouldn't blame him if he wants out. As a player who we know takes it personally and is intense, it's worn on him.
- MJL

Man you got it spot on. He is playing huge minutes on a long club with Braun as his partner. Provy will thrive with another strong talent on his pairing but he will never be able to carry the top pairing. He just isn't that guy... Not yet anyway
bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Mar 12 @ 12:31 PM ET
Maybe his job isn't on the line.
- hello it's me 2050


cant be, he's being saying it for months.
bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Mar 12 @ 12:44 PM ET
I like RR. But if they are talking about trading provy and sanheim but keeping RR then I have more questions than answers going forward.
If they ship both provy and sanheim out then then doesn't that make RR the top pairing guy?

- Bob Habib[/quote
depends on what comes back in the trade.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 12 @ 12:49 PM ET
Man you got it spot on. He is playing huge minutes on a long club with Braun as his partner. Provy will thrive with another strong talent on his pairing but he will never be able to carry the top pairing. He just isn't that guy... Not yet anyway
- Bob Habib


Probably not but that's okay. Provorov is that player that when you trade him you wonder why he wasn't that good here.
bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Mar 12 @ 12:49 PM ET
It's obvious to me. Provorov has been beaten down by having to be the guy every night with no help. On a team that is dysfunctional in it's team and systems play. It's just been too much and I wouldn't blame him if he wants out. As a player who we know takes it personally and is intense, it's worn on him.
- MJL


do you ever blame a player other than RR. ? When any other player isnt playing well, you blame Yeo, or Chuck. When its RR you blame the player. You talk like frost has earned to be the #1C on this team, and he hasnt shown anything. OR maybe its just hextall guys that you dont blame, its everyone elses fault.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Mar 12 @ 12:49 PM ET
He is playing in the top 6 today, as a matter of fact.
- bmeltzer

So is the message going to be do the little things right or get some points?
bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Mar 12 @ 12:54 PM ET
dont you always question the source? why you accepting this one?

50/50 chance what is being reported is true Cliff.

- hello it's me 2050



hmmmmm.
Keyser soze
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.28.2020

Mar 12 @ 12:55 PM ET
Seeing a lot of chatter on Twitter about Provy being difficult and not a good teammate. Both team and player would be happy to part ways. Any truth to this? Can’t blame him for being unhappy with the state of things, but how you respond to adversity says a lot about a person. No denying he has not played well this year.
- Dkos

Yes I saw that too. Pretty bad if true. I might just become a leaf fan with my son😭😭
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Mar 12 @ 12:57 PM ET
That was a scary hit. Foligno caught him a little with the shoulder but he clearly stuck his leg out. Jake is an elite passer that refuses to shoot. Wild were cheating knowing he’d pass. Jackets got blown out the night before but came to play. Announcer said this was their best game in awhile. Wild still dominated but couldn’t finish.
- Minnyhock

Yea, I’m not sure what to make of it. It’s hard to watch that hit and not think it’s dirty but at the same time Jake is trying to cut through two guys and is on an angle.
Keyser soze
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.28.2020

Mar 12 @ 1:02 PM ET
https://twitter.com/Flyer...&t=ZsXNlAgCUznNjIxLqfA3gA
bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Mar 12 @ 1:09 PM ET
https://twitter.com/FlyersPuckSauce/status/1502336278171422720?s=20&t=ZsXNlAgCUznNjIxLqfA3gA
- Keyser soze


this will spark the ...he has no one to play with. was an old Nisky better than provy? He made provy alot better, that much is fact. I dont see PRovy elevating anyones game the way nisky did.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Mar 12 @ 1:10 PM ET
https://twitter.com/FlyersPuckSauce/status/1502336278171422720?s=20&t=ZsXNlAgCUznNjIxLqfA3gA
- Keyser soze

Who’s this guy and why does he have access to Flyers teammates, scouts and management lol. I’ll believe it when it comes from a real source.

For a guy whose supposedly “obsessed” with social media Provy hasn’t made a post on his Instagram since 2019 what a load of BS
rayc16
Joined: 06.29.2006

Mar 12 @ 1:12 PM ET
https://twitter.com/FlyersPuckSauce/status/1502336278171422720?s=20&t=ZsXNlAgCUznNjIxLqfA3gA
- Keyser soze

who is this person?
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