He might be an NHL player now, I don’t really know. But if he came in and played 3rd pairing, 10-12 minutes, maybe a bit of PK time and let him grow into a bigger role over the next few years instead of him being a 20+ minute guy from day 1 (like Hughes) I believe that’s a better path.

Höglander should be a 4th line winger learning to defend, and dig etc, and when given the opportunity to take on a bigger role you get to see if he has the skill to do it, instead of being the 2nd line winger out of training camp.
- 1970vintage

I’m good with all of that. I’ll give it a try putting the 2022/23 line up together.

Pearson Miller Garland
??? EP Pod
??? Bo (Boeser)
Hog Lammikko Highmore

Hughes Hamonic
OEL Myers
Rathbone Schenn 12-15mins
Burroughs Poolman

Motte either TDL or not resigned. Highmore stays on the cheap.

He might be an NHL player now, I don’t really know. But if he came in and played 3rd pairing, 10-12 minutes, maybe a bit of PK time and let him grow into a bigger role over the next few years instead of him being a 20+ minute guy from day 1 (like Hughes) I believe that’s a better path.

Höglander should be a 4th line winger learning to defend, and dig etc, and when given the opportunity to take on a bigger role you get to see if he has the skill to do it, instead of being the 2nd line winger out of training camp.
- 1970vintage

He is 8th in ice time among forwards, plays one shift more than the 4th line does.

Hoglander stats show that his defending this season has actually improved over last season. In less time but more games. His on ice even strength goals against has gone from 42 in 56 games last season to 30 in 59 games this season. His expected goals against this season has gone down as well. From 35.9 last season to 31.8 this season. The drop in these numbers could also be because of the new coach and the team being better also.

Just STFU…your incessant stupidity is becoming an insult to Carol and her blogs! You’re dipping down into Nighthawk territory where even the stupid people think you’re stupid
- LeftCoaster

lol wow chubbs!! You ok today or angry at JT for inflation on weiners?

Maybe an alt account will help?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzpndHtdl9A

And then get 4 or 5 games, excellent idea.
- Marwood

You'd understand if you ever played the game champ!

Another pile on with the stupid calling. What a poopstorm this blog has turned into with all the crap.
- Nighthawk

Lefty will be ok. The more he plays golf the less he know about Hockey all good.

He'd definitely address a big need, he's a rare player since he's actually an effective player but also a beast physically.
- Nucker101

He is 8th in ice time among forwards, plays one shift more than the 4th line does.

Hoglander stats show that his defending this season has actually improved over last season. In less time but more games. His on ice even strength goals against has gone from 42 in 56 games last season to 30 in 59 games this season. His expected goals against this season has gone down as well. From 35.9 last season to 31.8 this season. The drop in these numbers could also be because of the new coach and the team being better also.
- manvanfan

Yep good points and Hogs has looked better as of late after the stint in Boudreau's doghouse. If a few go in for him his confidence will build again plus he needs complimentary line mates.

Yep good points and Hogs has looked better as of late after the stint in Boudreau's doghouse. If a few go in for him his confidence will build again plus he needs complimentary line mates.
- LordHumungous

As Bruce said if he scores more, people will care less about his defence.

Well not in those exact words.

As Bruce said if he scores more, people will care less about his defence.

Well not in those exact words.
- manvanfan

lol but it's true. I understand that Hogs needs to be more defensively responsible but like most good rookies he also needs to be given the tools to succeed. As much as Boudreau has been trying to help him he's also hindered Hog's performance a bit.

Jonas Siegel
@jonassiegel
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Mar 13
Lowest save percentages since Jan. 1:

1. Jonathan Quick: .879
2. Jack Campbell: .882
3. Alex Nedeljkovic: .884
4. Martin Jones: .884
5. Jon Gillies: .885
6. Petr Mrazek: .885

*Min. 10 starts

Still a pretty good trade for Detroit to get a starter for only a 3rd round pick.

lol but it's true. I understand that Hogs needs to be more defensively responsible but like most good rookies he also needs to be given the tools to succeed. As much as Boudreau has been trying to help him he's also hindered Hog's performance a bit.
- LordHumungous

I think Hog has probably hindered his own performance by not putting the puck in the net.

He's a 21 year old in the NHL. He's still learning. Bruce will help him become a more complete player. I don't think he has been consistent this season. Will come over time though.

He is 8th in ice time among forwards, plays one shift more than the 4th line does.

Hoglander stats show that his defending this season has actually improved over last season. In less time but more games. His on ice even strength goals against has gone from 42 in 56 games last season to 30 in 59 games this season. His expected goals against this season has gone down as well. From 35.9 last season to 31.8 this season. The drop in these numbers could also be because of the new coach and the team being better also.
- manvanfan

Green had terrible teams and was forced to play guys up the lineup, AND Green was a terrible coach.

I still think that the team is having to put guys in roles they aren’t ready for. Hell, we were debating if Klimovich would make the team out of camp…

Still a pretty good trade for Detroit to get a starter for only a 3rd round pick.
- manvanfan

Thought Greiss might be on that list as well, though he has also been better of late.

Green had terrible teams and was forced to play guys up the lineup, AND Green was a terrible coach.

I still think that the team is having to put guys in roles they aren’t ready for. Hell, we were debating if Klimovich would make the team out of camp…
- 1970vintage

Green was a bad coach and if other coaches had his teams, I'm sure they would have looked slightly better.

I think being forced to have players play up the line up is a league thing, not just exclusive to the Canucks. That's why you have the TDL to rectify that.

Who do you think is being forced to play outside their role on the Canucks right now? Other than Nils.

Lastly, I don't remember debating Klimovich making the team but that would have been a swift no.

Thought Greiss might be on that list as well, though he has also been better of late.
- 1970vintage

What surprised me most of that list in Quick. LA has been good still. It feels as if half their games go into OT though. I still think they are the pretenders of the West and would be a easier first round match up for the other team.

He is 8th in ice time among forwards, plays one shift more than the 4th line does.

Hoglander stats show that his defending this season has actually improved over last season. In less time but more games. His on ice even strength goals against has gone from 42 in 56 games last season to 30 in 59 games this season. His expected goals against this season has gone down as well. From 35.9 last season to 31.8 this season. The drop in these numbers could also be because of the new coach and the team being better also.
- manvanfan

Can you explain Expected goals for/against, as I have a hard time with this particular stat. It appears to me like a very flawed stat.
Maybe it's just because I am stupid, or maybe it's because it is just a real bad stat.

Green was a bad coach and if other coaches had his teams, I'm sure they would have looked slightly better.

I think being forced to have players play up the line up is a league thing, not just exclusive to the Canucks. That's why you have the TDL to rectify that.

Who do you think is being forced to play outside their role on the Canucks right now? Other than Nils.

Lastly, I don't remember debating Klimovich making the team but that would have been a swift no.
- manvanfan

I think Podkolzin is often put in a position above his level. You could argue it will help him long term. Richardinson was definitely thought of as something he isn’t. Myers (scratch that, the entire right side D), Pettersson was early on, Pearson.

There was really only one true Klimovich Pom-pommer, but it was a topic we had to endure.

What surprised me most of that list in Quick. LA has been good still. It feels as if half their games go into OT though. I still think they are the pretenders of the West and would be a easier first round match up for the other team.
- manvanfan

I think Peterson has been the better goalie in LA? But yes, I think they’ve kept games close, managed their losses as they say.

Can't say I'm a fan of Marino, but at least he is a right shot defenseman

https://theprovince.com/s...fa-89a7-15318eaabe51/amp/

Green was a bad coach and if other coaches had his teams, I'm sure they would have looked slightly better.

I think being forced to have players play up the line up is a league thing, not just exclusive to the Canucks. That's why you have the TDL to rectify that.

Who do you think is being forced to play outside their role on the Canucks right now? Other than Nils.

Lastly, I don't remember debating Klimovich making the team but that would have been a swift no.
- manvanfan

Hoglander
Podkolzin at times
Richardson
Chiasson most times
Myers
Hamonic
Poolman most times
Hunt
Schenn at times
Burroughs at times

I think Podkolzin is often put in a position above his level. You could argue it will help him long term. Richardinson was definitely thought of as something he isn’t. Myers (scratch that, the entire right side D), Pettersson was early on, Pearson.

There was really only one true Klimovich Pom-pommer, but it was a topic we had to endure.
- 1970vintage

Now I don't disagree with you for the large part. There have been players that asked to play above their normal level of play. In saying that though, I have and do look around the league and it's not just the Canucks. The expectation of that all top 6 are going to be equal, clearly not possible. There's a very big difference between your best forward and a #5. Bottom 7-12 forwards are pretty much interchangeable on almost every team.

Podz plays 12 minutes a game. How much less can he play? He has clearly been better than all of the organizational depth that is mostly killing the AHL in Dries, Dowling, Petan, Rempal.

Hoglander
Podkolzin at times
Richardson
Chiasson most times
Myers
Hamonic
Poolman most times
Hunt
Schenn at times
Burroughs at times
- NewYorkNuck

We know, Benning or Rutherford haven't done it your way. 😆

lol wow chubbs!! You ok today or angry at JT for inflation on weiners?

Maybe an alt account will help?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzpndHtdl9A


- LordHumungous

I’m good…busting your ballz is all. It’s 30 plus degrees C all week, hitting the course tomorrow.

Now I don't disagree with you for the large part. There have been players that asked to play above their normal level of play. In saying that though, I have and do look around the league and it's not just the Canucks. The expectation of that all top 6 are going to be equal, clearly not possible. There's a very big difference between your best forward and a #5. Bottom 7-12 forwards are pretty much interchangeable on almost every team.

Podz plays 12 minutes a game. How much less can he play? He has clearly been better than all of the organizational depth that is mostly killing the AHL in Dries, Dowling, Petan, Rempal.
- manvanfan

For me it’s not all just the number of minutes, but also the players they are playing with. For example, Pettersson with Höglander and Podkolzin has a certain expectation, with Pettersson being your “#1 C”… now I’m being cheeky there, but I think you know where I’m going with it.

If Podkolzin was playing with Lammikko and Motte, the expectation would be different IMO.

Also, I hate the “other teams” excuse. If your goal is to win a championship then you need to build a team where fewer rather than more of your players are playing above their current level.

Can you explain Expected goals for/against, as I have a hard time with this particular stat. It appears to me like a very flawed stat.
Maybe it's just because I am stupid, or maybe it's because it is just a real bad stat.
- Reubenkincade

I laugh every time I see that ridiculous stat thrown around.