No offense Ultimate but that's terrible for the Jets, those 1sts will be good picks plus Heinola for a guy who's looking more like a bust everyday, have you looked at Lafreniere's stats, they're not good.

I'd rather just get a 2nd for Copp, let's hope Chevy and ownership can see the writing on the wall and do what's right at this trade deadline and trade Copp, Stastny and perhaps some other guys, its time for a change.
- JetFuel

None taken. Something seems to be wrong in Rangers land with young players anyways and I think that Lafreniere in a different system could become the dynamic player he was expected to be. Also see Kappo Kakko & Vitaly Kravtsov.

Byram already has concussion issues, no thanks.
- JetFuel

I actually think we should be cleaning house on defense. If Chevy really believes in his “draft & development” system, he should be looking at trading Demelo, Dillon, Schmidt, Pionk and even Morrissey.

Its time for the young guys like Kovacevic, Heinola, Gawanke, Chisholm, Samberg and Stanley to take the reigns. It would also give a new head coach with a fresh slate to start with.

No offense Ultimate but that's terrible for the Jets, those 1sts will be good picks plus Heinola for a guy who's looking more like a bust everyday, have you looked at Lafreniere's stats, they're not good.

I'd rather just get a 2nd for Copp, let's hope Chevy and ownership can see the writing on the wall and do what's right at this trade deadline and trade Copp, Stastny and perhaps some other guys, its time for a change.
- JetFuel

We all have great ideas, but in all probability, that is what the Jets will do - trade Copp and Stastny for picks. Chevy not likely to go for the home run.

I just hope they DO trade them both!

Byram already has concussion issues, no thanks.
- JetFuel

And we'd be giving up what to take that chance ?
Copp who won't re-sign and Heinola who is borderline.

None taken. Something seems to be wrong in Rangers land with young players anyways and I think that Lafreniere in a different system could become the dynamic player he was expected to be. Also see Kappo Kakko & Vitaly Kravtsov.
- TheUltimateJet

I agree, while Lafreniere likely figures it out I wouldn't risk that much for him.

I actually think we should be cleaning house on defense. If Chevy really believes in his “draft & development” system, he should be looking at trading Demelo, Dillon, Schmidt, Pionk and even Morrissey.

Its time for the young guys like Kovacevic, Heinola, Gawanke, Chisholm, Samberg and Stanley to take the reigns. It would also give a new head coach with a fresh slate to start with.
- TheUltimateJet

Yes I do think they need to start clearing a path for some of these many young dmen they have, have said it before but whats the point in drafting and developing if you aren't going to get these guys in the lineup.

And we'd be giving up what to take that chance ?
Copp who won't re-sign and Heinola who is borderline.
- bennythehat

How is Heinola borderline?

I just wouldn't risk it, think the Jets needs aren't really on the blueline, they're on forward.

How is Heinola borderline?

I just wouldn't risk it, think the Jets needs aren't really on the blueline, they're on forward.
- JetFuel

Heinola is a player that you either:

A. Play, or

B. Trade as his trade value is high at the moment. I do not foresee it going any higher.

Right now Lowry, Huddy and Compon have him on the Sami Niku career trajectory. I just cannot believe how poorly this coaching staff assesses talent.

I agree, while Lafreniere likely figures it out I wouldn't risk that much for him.
- JetFuel

Lefreniere is an awesome hockey player who is just lost playing a position ( RW) right now which is very unnatural for him. His talent is immense at LW and the Jets can create room there on the top two lines. Despite him playing third line and RW in his first two seasons he still has managed a half-point a game which is amazing for a kid only 20 yrs old. Think of Jess Puljujarvi who was drafted high by the Oilers as a kid who took longer to come around as do most 18-20 yr olds. Lafreniere will be a force du jour down the road. I have no doubt. Chevy would be definitely trying to get him if he can. He also fits in nicely cap-wise and would be amazing with Perfetti down the road. Its a no-brainer and a move worth giving one of Smith or Heinola who really don't have a place on the Jets roster. Jets would have to retain pretty much all of Copp's salary to do the deal though.

Lefreniere is an awesome hockey player who is just lost playing a position ( RW) right now which is very unnatural for him. His talent is immense at LW and the Jets can create room there on the top two lines. Despite him playing third line and RW in his first two seasons he still has managed a half-point a game which is amazing for a kid only 20 yrs old. Think of Jess Puljujarvi who was drafted high by the Oilers as a kid who took longer to come around as do most 18-20 yr olds. Lafreniere will be a force du jour down the road. I have no doubt. Chevy would be definitely trying to get him if he can. He also fits in nicely cap-wise and would be amazing with Perfetti down the road. Its a no-brainer and a move worth giving one of Smith or Heinola who really don't have a place on the Jets roster. Jets would have to retain pretty much all of Copp's salary to do the deal though.
- jetsnation

Might want to check his stats again, he hasn't managed a half point per game.

While I do think he'll figure it out and he could possibly be a great addition for the Jets the original suggestion was just way too much to risk on Lafreniere.

The trade suggestion by Ultimate was:

The Jets 2022 1st, 2023 or 2024 1st, Heinola, Copp
for Lafreniere

No chance I'd do that.

Might want to check his stats again, he hasn't managed a half point per game.

While I do think he'll figure it out and he could possibly be a great addition for the Jets the original suggestion was just way too much to risk on Lafreniere.

The trade suggestion by Ultimate was:

The Jets 2022 1st, 2023 or 2024 1st, Heinola, Copp
for Lafreniere

No chance I'd do that.
- JetFuel

That was Ultimate. Too pricey. Mine was much more reasonable.

Copp ,Heinola, and Sanberg for Lafrenierre

Or Copp ,Smith, and Sanberg for Lafrenierre ( and I'll add a third round pick to that)

It might take Copp, Smith , and Heinola to get it done though since we don't know if Smith would sign with Jets.

That was Ultimate. Too pricey. Mine was much more reasonable.

Copp ,Heinola, and Sanberg for Lafrenierre

Or Copp ,Smith, and Sanberg for Lafrenierre ( and I'll add a third round pick to that)

It might take Copp, Smith , and Heinola to get it done though since we don't know if Smith would sign with Jets.
- jetsnation

Yes 100% agree. Copp, the rights to Smith and either Heinola/Samberg for Lafreniere should be a good fit for both teams.

The Jets get a potential scorer, the Rangers get Copp (who would be great help for them down the stretch) and youngsters with great potetntial in Smith and Heinola/Samberg. Done deal!

That was Ultimate. Too pricey. Mine was much more reasonable.

Copp ,Heinola, and Sanberg for Lafrenierre

Or Copp ,Smith, and Sanberg for Lafrenierre ( and I'll add a third round pick to that)

It might take Copp, Smith , and Heinola to get it done though since we don't know if Smith would sign with Jets.
- jetsnation

Gotcha!

If the Rangers would do that idk, I'd send them Heinola but not Samberg, getting pretty done with all these little dmen that can't win a puck battle.

So an even strength goal from the 3rd line where all three forwards registered a point is a thing that can happen?!..

Wow! I didn't know that was possible!!

Gotcha!

If the Rangers would do that idk, I'd send them Heinola but not Samberg, getting pretty done with all these little dmen that can't win a puck battle.
- JetFuel

With Stanley playing very good hockey it appears the Jets are pretty set on D for at least the next three years. Just where does Heinola or Samberg fit. They are becoming wasted assets. Its entirely possible that the Rangers have no intention of trading Lafreniere, but if he is on the table they the Jets may have one of the best packages available and it would be a very rare opportunity to pick up an elite young player , in a position of need , for assets that might otherwise be wasted. No brainer IMHO.

With Stanley playing very good hockey it appears the Jets are pretty set on D for at least the next three years. Just where does Heinola or Samberg fit. They are becoming wasted assets. Its entirely possible that the Rangers have no intention of trading Lafreniere, but if he is on the table they the Jets may have one of the best packages available and it would be a very rare opportunity to pick up an elite young player , in a position of need , for assets that might otherwise be wasted. No brainer IMHO.
- jetsnation

Oh I agree, should definitely be trading some of these D prospects to fill other holes in the lineup, just saying I'd move Heinola before Samberg is all.

Might want to check his stats again, he hasn't managed a half point per game.

While I do think he'll figure it out and he could possibly be a great addition for the Jets the original suggestion was just way too much to risk on Lafreniere.

The trade suggestion by Ultimate was:

The Jets 2022 1st, 2023 or 2024 1st, Heinola, Copp
for Lafreniere

No chance I'd do that.
- JetFuel

Nathan Mackinnon in his second season 64gp 14g 24a for 38points

Alexi Lafreniere so far this season has 61gp 13g 8a for 21points

Lafreniere for the most part played on a similar team to what Mackinnon was playing on in his second season.

Essentially if you believe that Lafreniere is going to be like Mackinnon (who he was being compared to at draft time). My deal makes the most sense. Not an overpay for what might become.

The Rangers would not accept anything less than what I offered, which in all actuality might be an underpayment.

Mason Appleton is back for a 2023 3rd round pick!

Mason Appleton is back for a 2023 3rd round pick!
- TheUltimateJet

4th round pick

We have a deal on the table for 2-2nd rounders for copp, we are holding out for a first. But I’m fine with the two seconds if that’s what we get.
Now try to get a 2nd or 3rd for Stastny as well.

And sell Stanley!!!! His value will never be higher 😄

Nathan Mackinnon in his second season 64gp 14g 24a for 38points

Alexi Lafreniere so far this season has 61gp 13g 8a for 21points

Lafreniere for the most part played on a similar team to what Mackinnon was playing on in his second season.

Essentially if you believe that Lafreniere is going to be like Mackinnon (who he was being compared to at draft time). My deal makes the most sense. Not an overpay for what might become.

The Rangers would not accept anything less than what I offered, which in all actuality might be an underpayment.
- TheUltimateJet

Wouldn't give that much, we'd probably just throw him on Lowrys wing and watch his offense plummet even further.. lol

Mason Appleton is back for a 2023 3rd round pick!
- TheUltimateJet

Not a bad minor trade and its these type of trades I think Chevy hasn't been doing enough of over the years, funny that Appleton instantly becomes the Jets most productive bottom six forward.. lol

Mason Appleton is back for a 2023 3rd round pick!
- TheUltimateJet

Yes, throw a 4th out there and get Appleton who is familiar with the Jets and their system to potentially help keep a run at the playoffs. Copp is now likely gone......or is Chevy just getting more depth ? Still like to see a bigger trade here than just draft picks.

Yes, throw a 4th out there and get Appleton who is familiar with the Jets and their system to potentially help keep a run at the playoffs. Copp is now likely gone......or is Chevy just getting more depth ? Still like to see a bigger trade here than just draft picks.
- jetsnation

Yes, with Appleton coming in, you would certainly think there are deals on the table for Copp and Stastny, wouldn't you?

Rangers, Bruins and Avs seem to be the major contenders here, but will be surprised? I always think Panthers, but maybe their shopping is done.

Anyways look forward to an exciting day. Hopefully not disappointed!

Looks like Beau has been traded to Pittsburgh for conditional 7th.

With Stanley playing very good hockey it appears the Jets are pretty set on D for at least the next three years. Just where does Heinola or Samberg fit. They are becoming wasted assets. Its entirely possible that the Rangers have no intention of trading Lafreniere, but if he is on the table they the Jets may have one of the best packages available and it would be a very rare opportunity to pick up an elite young player , in a position of need , for assets that might otherwise be wasted. No brainer IMHO.
- jetsnation

stanley was horrible last night, he has one good game every 5 or 6 games. i just dont see what some of you see. trading heinola to keep stanley is a devastating franchise move