They are going to get a reasonable prospect like Tippet..maybe a B prospect and a 2nd rd pick....little Fletcher can do about it. If G said its Florida or Colorado and neither really need him the return will be modest. Fletcher has no choice but to take the best deal available from a team G has agreed to go to even if that deal is modest at best
- hfc355

So if he gets Tippet, a low 2nd and a b prospect is that a good deal?

Then sign him next year to a Pavelski contract if you can somehow dump jvr for a box on shinpad tape.

Wasn’t it Matt’s Sundien that refused to wave his no trade clause when his contract was ending to stay a Leaf and the fans weren’t too happy about it.

So if he gets Tippet, a low 2nd and a b prospect is that a good deal?

Then sign him next year to a Pavelski contract if you can somehow dump jvr for a box on shinpad tape.
- Joe Nardone

Doesnt matter if it's good or bad if it's the best he could have gotten based on where G would be willing to go. Fletchers hands are tied here.

But your opinion is mostly based on feelings not evidence.
- Minnyhock

That would be extremely inaccurate.

Seems like the trade will only be judged positively if you get a 1st rd pick plus? I’d rather get an outstanding prospect or close to nhl ready 22 year deal old. Newhook whatever..
- Joe Nardone

Not getting anyone near a Newhook....

Unbelievably nice return. 2 first rounds! I can only dream that Chuck gets that kind of deal.
- WhiskeyMan

2 30ish overall first round picks? basically 2 second rounders plus some underperforming prospects for a young cheap player that is having a breakout season with time left on his contract.

This! I live in Nashville and watch the preds regularly (since I can't cheer for the flyers) and they have always had a solid D corp. If anything that is their specialty. Last night was an off night for them and the flyers pushed hard to make that happen. That's the first time I can recall that the flyers paid a price to crash the net. It was a solid showing of respect for Giroux but it pisses me off that they don't always play with the same heart that they showed last night. If the preds can catch fire and Jusse keeps playing this way then they really have a high ceiling and could be w potential dark horse with a key addition or two up front.
People underestimate the press and I like it that way
- Bob Habib

When you talk about a team defensively. You aren't just talking about their defenseman.

Sanheim's been playing better than Provorov almost all season. You could make the case that he's already better than Provorov, period.

Sanheim isn't #1 dman material, but neither is Provorov apparently. And if Provorov's fortunes will be permanently tied to Ryan Ellis being healthy, then might as well just cut your losses now while he's still worth something.
- Tomahawk

I see Provorov as a victim of the situation. If you move him, you'll wonder why he wasn't that good here.

I know Brandon Hagel is 23 years old and has 21 goals this year, but Tampa just traded 2 1st round picks and 2 prospects to get him. That price seems really steep to me. given this trade and the Chiarot trade, Fletcher must hold out G until he gets something comparable.
- jd250

It's an extreme overpay but it's the kind of thing you have to do when you're in their situation. The Flyers are not going to get something comparable.

I know Brandon Hagel is 23 years old and has 21 goals this year, but Tampa just traded 2 1st round picks and 2 prospects to get him. That price seems really steep to me. given this trade and the Chiarot trade, Fletcher must hold out G until he gets something comparable.
- jd250

you people crack me tf up with your idiotic proposals. Giroux and Hagel are not even comparable. Giroux is clearly a rental as his deals expiring, and Hagel has 2 more years at 1.5mil and is only like 23 years old. Please, get a sense of reality, you are embarrassing and making Flyers fans look stupid

Clarke said last night Sanheim did play PP in juniors and should be given the chance to play PP on the Flyers. Of course he has to earn his PP time according to Clarke, but on this team that shouldn't be too hard. Not sure why Yeo just doesn't put he and Risto out there already, can the PP be much worse than 14/%?
- jd250

The archaic dinosaur has spoken. Sanheim has to earn the PP time. Tell me what has York done to earn the PP time? What has York done to put him ahead of Sanheim in terms of PP ice time?

York has gone in a short period of time from having to go down in the minors to work on his game. To being called up to play on the first pair and on the PP then back to the 3rd pair in the same game. That's Mike Yeo-Yeo. Clueless.

The archaic dinosaur has spoken. Sanheim has to earn the PP time. Tell me what has York done to earn the PP time? What has York done to put him ahead of Sanheim in terms of PP ice time?

York has gone in a short period of time from having to go down in the minors to work on his game. To being called up to play on the first pair and on the PP then back to the 3rd pair in the same game. That's Mike Yeo-Yeo. Clueless.
- MJL

Yup. Looking at what Yandle, Provy and Ristolainen have brought to the pp this season, Sanheim should be on unit 1 and York on unit 2. It’s infuriating enough that they’re still running a useless pylon like Yandle out there every friggin game!

@FlyersPuckSauce

I am hearing that the Flyers want Denisenko and Samoskevich and a 2nd.
Panthers would rather Tippett and Samoskevich.
Flyers are lukewarm at best on Tippett.
Who blinks first?

Yup. Looking at what Yandle, Provy and Ristolainen have brought to the pp this season, Sanheim should be on unit 1 and York on unit 2. It’s infuriating enough that they’re still running a useless pylon like Yandle out there every friggin game!
- BiggE

According to at least one poster on here. Yeo has brought accountability and a culture change to the team. Apparently he has done that in part by playing Yandle, who should be retired, every single game.

It's an extreme overpay but it's the kind of thing you have to do when you're in their situation. The Flyers are not going to get something comparable.
- MJL

What situation was Tampa in to need Hagel I get the first rounders are likely low pics, but Boris and Raddysh are both young as frost and show as much potential as Frost. They must really see something in the kid, as both those guys were under nearly league min contracts as well. Another move coming for Tampa?

Sanheim's been playing better than Provorov almost all season. You could make the case that he's already better than Provorov, period.

Sanheim isn't #1 dman material, but neither is Provorov apparently. And if Provorov's fortunes will be permanently tied to Ryan Ellis being healthy, then might as well just cut your losses now while he's still worth something.
- Tomahawk

Top talent play with top talent. Giroux didn’t reach 900 points in 1000 games by playing with Jimmy Dowd or Blair Betts. Timonen had Coburn for many years. There is nothing wrong with having a partner who can carry the load.

What situation was Tampa in to need Hagel I get the first rounders are likely low pics, but Boris and Raddysh are both young as frost and show as much potential as Frost. They must really see something in the kid, as both those guys were under nearly league min contracts as well. Another move coming for Tampa?
- GPerogie

Scoring depth to try and win another Stanley Cup. Yes, I would agree that they really like the player.

That would be extremely inaccurate.
- MJL

It’s very accurate. There are about 8 teams who are legitimate Cup contenders. Nashville is just outside that group. Nashville is better defensively than some of those
teams. The reason they are not contenders is because those other teams are better overall.

Yup. Looking at what Yandle, Provy and Ristolainen have brought to the pp this season, Sanheim should be on unit 1 and York on unit 2. It’s infuriating enough that they’re still running a useless pylon like Yandle out there every friggin game!
- BiggE

I doubt Sanheim will provide anything different from Yandle, Provorov or Ristolainen. I’ve been very high on York on the power play so far though.

I doubt Sanheim will provide anything different from Yandle, Provorov or Ristolainen. I’ve been very high on York on the power play so far though.
- SuperSchennBros

Literally anything has to be better than Yandle on the PP. He is just awful. But you are right, Sanheim probably doesnt move the needle much to make a successful pp

- Tomahawk

Like I said let the Owen Tippett era begin lol

I see Provorov as a victim of the situation. If you move him, you'll wonder why he wasn't that good here.
- MJL

He can’t be the victim. He makes almost 7 mill. Part of his job is to make others better. He does not do that.

He owns this mess as much as anyone.

The guy just has 0 confidence out there. Used to be a very good dman. Now he is kinda just slightly above avg w high salary n term.

The Ryan Ellis situation seems very weird to me. He happens to live down the street from me in the summer. He seems like a very down to earth kind of guy. I don’t go over there for bbqs but we do waive and say hi here and there. I just don’t buy a groin injury caused him to miss an entire season.
- Keyser soze

Why couldn't a groin injury cause a player to miss an entire season?
A core muscle injury in hockey is as debilitating as there is .

Hexy nearly lost a season to a groin injury, Renberg a core injury and countless other exmaples.

He has been bad this yr and was avg last year at 6.75 mill w term. Um - if you can get value for him you sell, yes.

No brainer
- Joe Nardone

No brainer? Who is our top six D if you move Provorov for a forward right now? I’ll tell you who:

Sanhiem Risto
Scrub A York
Scrub B Scrub C

They aren’t drafting anyone who is stepping right into the NHL and none of our other D prospects have played a lick of NHL hockey yet and some people just think they can start.

I get it. Provorov has underachieved from what we expect from him. But the team’s D situation will be a whole lot worse for the foreseeable future without him. If anything they need to find a replacement for Braun.

If it’s me, I take the rumored Colorado deal and get Justin Barron and keep Provy. Then you get your fancy forward from our sure to be top 10 pick.

Or you trade Giroux for a forward and draft the D man Nemec, who hopefully won’t take too long to get to the NHL.

Either way the team is a lot better as a whole with Provy.

Let me ask you this. If Fletcher screws this up as you predict he will, will you be happy?
- jd250

As a Flyers fan I ain’t been happy in a long time