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A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Mar 19 @ 4:53 PM ET
He’s fine for player agent scoops but not for opinions that are more valid than people who played pro.

I don’t care what Gear or Dhaliwal have to say about Poolman

- Nucker101

Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Mar 19 @ 4:54 PM ET
Got it. Interference, high sticking, tripping, holding. That's all got to do with being tough and not sucking at hockey.
- manvanfan


Ok
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Mar 19 @ 5:06 PM ET
CanucksAbbyFan2
@Fan2Abby
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38m
#Canucks Would Lafreniere shake J.T. Miller loose?
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Mar 19 @ 5:08 PM ET
CanucksAbbyFan2
@Fan2Abby
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38m
#Canucks Would Lafreniere shake J.T. Miller loose?

- manvanfan

No
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Mar 19 @ 5:14 PM ET
Everybody always picks out the outlier and never the norm.
- manvanfan

Yourself included 🤣
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Mar 19 @ 5:15 PM ET
CanucksAbbyFan2
@Fan2Abby
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38m
#Canucks Would Lafreniere shake J.T. Miller loose?

- manvanfan

Yes
DariusKnight
Vancouver Canucks
Location: "The Alien has landed in Vancouver!"
Joined: 03.09.2006

Mar 19 @ 5:16 PM ET
CanucksAbbyFan2
@Fan2Abby
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38m
#Canucks Would Lafreniere shake J.T. Miller loose?

- manvanfan


Lafreniere for Boeser I could get behind for sure.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Mar 19 @ 5:19 PM ET
Lafreniere for Boeser I could get behind for sure.
- DariusKnight



Or Garland
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Mar 19 @ 5:19 PM ET
Deslaurier is a nice add for Minny
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Mar 19 @ 5:21 PM ET
I thought you were following the Florida model? That's not what they did.

Petey/Hughes/Bo/Demko window isn't opening for at least 2 years.

- manvanfan


Huh? Florida didn't trade top players for picks. I sent you that article from the Athletic.

Rutherford’s in a somewhat similar position to Zito in that he’s trying to salvage a rebuild that has some valuable core pieces, an expensive, ageing and insufficient blue line as well as limited cap flexibility. Let’s recap the main takeaways the Canucks can learn from Florida’s rise back to contenders:

Flexibility is king in today’s NHL. Vancouver needs to do whatever it can within reason to gut its expensive and replaceable middle class and create more cap room to play with. That extra money would give them much-needed wiggle room to acquire and retain more top players in the long run.
If you take enough fliers, you can replace those non-star/middle of the lineup players a lot easier than you might think. Florida unearthed multiple top-six players and top-four defencemen inexpensively this way and then used the cap savings to acquire high-end players like Reinhart and Bennett.
Do whatever it takes to help elevate your top players into elite ones
Analyze when you think your Cup window is and keep your future assets until it opens

There’s obviously a lot more that will need to go into making Vancouver’s retool successful than the points analyzed in this piece, but there’s still a lot of valuable insights to glean from the Panthers’ model.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Mar 19 @ 5:22 PM ET
Everybody always picks out the outlier and never the norm.
- manvanfan


Joe Pavelski
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Mar 19 @ 5:24 PM ET
Lindholm going to Boston. Details to follow.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Mar 19 @ 5:27 PM ET
Huh? Florida didn't trade top players for picks. I sent you that article from the Athletic.
- NewYorkNuck


I dunno man, are the Panthers good because of Reiner and Bennsey or are the players “good” because of the Panthers. Like the Avs goalie who Seattle bucked up for.

Anyway, I agree, need to create cap space in order to pay the people who will actually be driving them forward, if that’s Miller or not.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Mar 19 @ 5:31 PM ET
Are we ready for Must Win yet? Stars lose, so the door is open. 3-1 Canucks in a rough and tumble affair. I’m calling goalie fight at center ice.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Mar 19 @ 5:43 PM ET
Are we ready for Must Win yet? Stars lose, so the door is open. 3-1 Canucks in a rough and tumble affair. I’m calling goalie fight at center ice.
- 1970vintage

Edmonton and Vegas going to win. The start of the season was just too bad. It was always going to be a very long shot. Changing a piece or two from the Canucks I doubt makes much of a difference in the short term but better for long term. Getting future pieces.

For when Miller is 37 and playing with two young pups on one of the best lines in the league.
DariusKnight
Vancouver Canucks
Location: "The Alien has landed in Vancouver!"
Joined: 03.09.2006

Mar 19 @ 5:43 PM ET
Are we ready for Must Win yet? Stars lose, so the door is open. 3-1 Canucks in a rough and tumble affair. I’m calling goalie fight at center ice.
- 1970vintage


Blowout loss, 6-1 Calgary in revenge game for being humiliated earlier by the Canucks
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Mar 19 @ 5:48 PM ET
I don't know how that is "good"
- manvanfan

Let's see this roster under a full season of Boudreau next year before we start liquidating assets all over the league lol.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Mar 19 @ 5:48 PM ET
I dunno man, are the Panthers good because of Reiner and Bennsey or are the players “good” because of the Panthers. Like the Avs goalie who Seattle bucked up for.

Anyway, I agree, need to create cap space in order to pay the people who will actually be driving them forward, if that’s Miller or not.

- 1970vintage


The article is on the Athletic if you have it. If not, I can DM it to you. It's a good read.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Mar 19 @ 5:49 PM ET
Huh? Florida didn't trade top players for picks. I sent you that article from the Athletic.
- NewYorkNuck

Cap space is why they let guys go. That should be the focus. Taking back just further along prospects that are through a year or two of their ELC's means paying them a year or two earlier and not having it for when the window opens. If you could split it between one player and one pick ideally.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Mar 19 @ 5:49 PM ET
Yourself included 🤣
- LeftCoaster

How bout the OIL fathead!!!

manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Mar 19 @ 5:50 PM ET
The article is on the Athletic if you have it. If not, I can DM it to you. It's a good read.
- NewYorkNuck

It's written by Drance. He's been talking about certain things for a while now. He's dead set on what needs to happen and it's guaranteed to work in Van if they do it.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Mar 19 @ 5:50 PM ET
Blowout loss, 6-1 Calgary in revenge game for being humiliated earlier by the Canucks
- DariusKnight

I like OT and probably a loss...but if we aren't in the Black Skate jerseys probably going to get pounded.

Go Nucks!!
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Mar 19 @ 5:51 PM ET


Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
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A first and two seconds are part of the return to ANA in the Lindholm deal
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Mar 19 @ 5:52 PM ET
It's written by Drance. He's been talking about certain things for a while now. He's dead set on what needs to happen and it's guaranteed to work in Van if they do it.
- manvanfan


Actually it's written by Dayal, but keep it up

Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Mar 19 @ 6:07 PM ET
Giroux to fla Pending trade call
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