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BroadSTmayhem
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.03.2012

Mar 20 @ 11:04 AM ET
If you want to blame anyone for this trade, it's 100% on Giroux. It should be very clear now G didn't want to be traded and didn't care about going for a Stanley Cup. He is truly "Captain Comfortable" so I say good riddance! I believe even more now that G's choice this offseason is to resign with the Flyers but I sincerely hope Fletcher moves on. Giroux got his 1000th game and celebration, now he can go sign with an easy team like Ottawa and finish out his career. This was a missed opportunity again for the Flyers and it's 100% Giroux's fault!
- jd250


You’re an idiot. Do you even follow hockey? If this year’s Panthers team is not a favorite to raise the Cup, I don’t know who is. Giroux does and always has cared about winning. He’s also a family man and chose to relocate to a geographical area that works best for all involved.
section32
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Raleigh, NC
Joined: 02.15.2007

Mar 20 @ 11:04 AM ET
ASF has reported this, if it is true its the best move Chuck has ever made.

Though ASF seems to have a grudge against the flyers.

- hello it's me 2050

But is it against the CBA? Seems like it would be.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Mar 20 @ 11:06 AM ET
You’re an idiot. Do you even follow hockey? If this year’s Panthers team is not a favorite to raise the Cup, I don’t know who is. Giroux does and always has cared about winning. He’s also a family man and chose to relocate to a geographical area that works best for all involved.
- BroadSTmayhem

I still think Tampa is the team to beat in the East when you factor in their big game players up front, Hedman and Vasi in goal, but Florida is a close 2nd.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Mar 20 @ 11:15 AM ET
You’re an idiot. Do you even follow hockey? If this year’s Panthers team is not a favorite to raise the Cup, I don’t know who is. Giroux does and always has cared about winning. He’s also a family man and chose to relocate to a geographical area that works best for all involved.
- BroadSTmayhem


The panthers 3rd pairing is chiarot and montour. That is (frank)ing sick
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Mar 20 @ 11:16 AM ET
Lindblom, Farabee and JvR play left wing. I doubt Konency gets traded. You don’t know this as fact, I just know what we have now.
- SuperSchennBros


Its no guarantee but his name is all over the rumour mill. JVR is another player I dont expect to be back next season whether it be trade or buyout
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Mar 20 @ 11:20 AM ET
Its no guarantee but his name is all over the rumour mill. JVR is another player I dont expect to be back next season whether it be trade or buyout
- xShoot4WarAmpsx


Im hoping jvr is in Allentown next year. Can’t see anyone wanting him unless we send futures with him so no thanks
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Mar 20 @ 11:23 AM ET
To all the Giroux is a rental/pending UFA spin doctors, what did the Bruins give up for the Ducks dman Lindholm who is also a pending UFA.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Mar 20 @ 11:25 AM ET
Im hoping jvr is in Allentown next year. Can’t see anyone wanting him unless we send futures with him so no thanks
- Just5


Why wouldnt anyone? He still can score goals. Just needs to play with some talent. He's still a 20 goal guy IMO. Trade would involve some cap retention which would be fine.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Mar 20 @ 11:27 AM ET
To all the Giroux is a rental pending UFA spin doctors, what did the Bruins give up for the Ducks dman Lindholm who is also a pending UFA?
- PLindbergh31


Because they plan to re-sign him........ Its reported he is expected to sign a 8 year 6.5 mill extension.

Secondly, Lindholm had no say in where he was traded to.
Sinisalo4vr
Location: Dont f with the Jesus, PA
Joined: 06.24.2016

Mar 20 @ 11:30 AM ET
To all the Giroux is a rental/pending UFA spin doctors, what did the Bruins give up for the Ducks dman Lindholm who is also a pending UFA.
- PLindbergh31

Checking to see if the Panthers opened up extension negotiations with Giroux yet. So far no info.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Mar 20 @ 11:32 AM ET
To all the Giroux is a rental/pending UFA spin doctors, what did the Bruins give up for the Ducks dman Lindholm who is also a pending UFA.
- PLindbergh31

i dont think its all that much more though.

Tippett for a second is probably a wash depending on what people prefer. a first in each deal. really quibbling over a second vs third at a certain point. did lindholm fetch a little more? sure. but i dont think there was a NTC tilting the table and D always goes for a higher premium in these situations.

i get the sticker shock of moving on from giroux but its wild to me people expected some kind of better return. its almost formulaic at this point for the veteran rental forward. a first, prospect and a third. the prospect was never going to be a ready for the show next year top 6 plug in guy. those prospects simply dont get moved for rentals anymore with how important ELCs are.

Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Mar 20 @ 11:32 AM ET
Lindblom, Farabee and JvR play left wing. I doubt Konency gets traded. You don’t know this as fact, I just know what we have now.
- SuperSchennBros
JVR is gone one way or another. They can't let him skate around in oblivion for another season. I won't stand for it!!!
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Mar 20 @ 11:36 AM ET
Because they plan to re-sign him........ Its reported he is expected to sign a 8 year 6.5 mill extension.

Secondly, Lindholm had no say in where he was traded to.

- xShoot4WarAmpsx


And how do you know the Panthers have no plan to re-sign Giroux?

PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Mar 20 @ 11:43 AM ET
i dont think its all that much more though.

Tippett for a second is probably a wash depending on what people prefer. a first in each deal. really quibbling over a second vs third at a certain point. did lindholm fetch a little more? sure. but i dont think there was a NTC tilting the table and D always goes for a higher premium in these situations.

i get the sticker shock of moving on from giroux but its wild to me people expected some kind of better return. its almost formulaic at this point for the veteran rental forward. a first, prospect and a third. the prospect was never going to be a ready for the show next year top 6 plug in guy. those prospects simply dont get moved for rentals anymore with how important ELCs are.

- stayinthefnnet


Picks can be used as trade assets. Tippett is what he is at this point. An AHL/NHL tweener.

Flyers fans eat another poop sandwich been eating them for damn near close to half a Century.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Mar 20 @ 11:46 AM ET
Is Tippet in the line up today? and is Braun sitting?
Sinisalo4vr
Location: Dont f with the Jesus, PA
Joined: 06.24.2016

Mar 20 @ 11:47 AM ET
Picks can be used as trade assets. Tippett is what he is at this point. An AHL/NHL tweener.

Flyers fans eat another poop sandwich been eating them for damn near close to half a Century.

- PLindbergh31

That was this team’s assessment of the player they got in return for Simmonds. That guy is now the 1c for the Wild.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Mar 20 @ 11:47 AM ET
To all the Giroux is a rental/pending UFA spin doctors, what did the Bruins give up for the Ducks dman Lindholm who is also a pending UFA.
- PLindbergh31


Lindholm has no nmc. It meant everything in negotiation
Sinisalo4vr
Location: Dont f with the Jesus, PA
Joined: 06.24.2016

Mar 20 @ 11:47 AM ET
Is Tippet in the line up today? and is Braun sitting?
- 2Real

Tippet has been recalled for today’s game.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Mar 20 @ 11:47 AM ET
And how do you know the Panthers have no plan to re-sign Giroux?
- PLindbergh31

do they even have the cap space? they have to resign huberdeau soon
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Mar 20 @ 11:48 AM ET
Tippet has been recalled for today’s game.
- Sinisalo4vr

nice
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Mar 20 @ 11:48 AM ET
Picks can be used as trade assets. Tippett is what he is at this point. An AHL/NHL tweener.

Flyers fans eat another poop sandwich been eating them for damn near close to half a Century.

- PLindbergh31
Yeah right! I guess the Flyers have sucked for almost 50 years cause they failed to win a Cup in that timeframe.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Mar 20 @ 11:48 AM ET
And how do you know the Panthers have no plan to re-sign Giroux?
- PLindbergh31


I dont know...... Maybe because they dont have the cap space to do so.......

Giroux isnt a 28 year old top pair D. He's a 34 year old C\LW in decline territory.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Mar 20 @ 11:49 AM ET
Why wouldnt anyone? He still can score goals. Just needs to play with some talent. He's still a 20 goal guy IMO. Trade would involve some cap retention which would be fine.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx


Jvr blows. I’d be shocked if they could move him
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Mar 20 @ 11:49 AM ET
Picks can be used as trade assets. Tippett is what he is at this point. An AHL/NHL tweener.

Flyers fans eat another poop sandwich been eating them for damn near close to half a Century.

- PLindbergh31

oh the mismanagement has been comical. you guys are going to be just as poopty and aimless as the pens in a few years.

all im saying is in a vacuum, this trade isnt something to get the pitchforks out over. its not as though fletcher took anyone to school, but he didnt get pushed into the mud either. this was just the standard exchange rate.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Mar 20 @ 11:51 AM ET
Jvr blows. I’d be shocked if they could move him
- Just5

i can see him moved next year at 50% retrained for like a 5th

someone will want a warm body to shoot pucks at in front of the net
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