So you’re confirming that what Ek is saying is true?
- funmaster18

Same report by others including EF who is pretty reliable

You're 100% correct, but on the other hand the Flyers also don't owe it to Giroux to trade him to a team that has a chance to win the cup.
- Glak18

I’m confused why he would give Chuck a list of teams if it’s really one place he intended to be all along. Doesn’t make any sense.

I would have more respect for Fletcher if he held on to Giroux for the season then trade him away for "just something". The team trading for players are the ones getting the most benefit, so there is no need to help them out just so the team gets "at least something is better than nothing" bs.

Giroux holds all the cards in the offseason. He can pick his destination and how much he wants, but right now Fletcher has to do what is best for the Flyers without helping other teams because he is suppose to.
- Glak18

And what does Fletcher gain by holding on to him if deal is not great???

I’m confused why he would give Chuck a list of teams if it’s really one place he intended to be all along. Doesn’t make any sense.
- hereticpride

Probably has to do with a lot of factors and the most being personal/family preference and maybe an easier conference that increases the odds of making the cup.

Frost can fly... so "not especially fast" is incorrect. It's a matter of using the speed he's blessed with.

Also not a 5th year pro. He's a 3rd year pro who basically lost his entire 2nd year to injury.
- bmeltzer

As you know there is a world of difference between being able to fly around the ice in a speed competition then flying carrying a puck and avoiding hits and making hockey moves. Frost has shown very little of that so called speed in a game. Looks extremely timid

I’m confused why he would give Chuck a list of teams if it’s really one place he intended to be all along. Doesn’t make any sense.
- hereticpride

My guess is the more he thought about it the more he felt Florida was the best fit for him and his family. Cant blame him it would be a preferential place for a lot of players

And what does Fletcher gain by holding on to him if deal is not great???
- hfc355

Not helping other teams...

If the foolish mentality is he has to get at least something for him then send him to the team he wants for a 7th rounder and let them figure out the salary cap restraints.

Either way the Flyers fan base is going to be upset. Fletcher needs to get fair value for helping another team (that's why the price has always been high for rentals) or keep his captain for the season. Fletcher only fails if he trades him for a bad return.

These are all just unconfirmed rumors. Speculation. “Insiders” and “sources” have a motive to leak things whether true or not. So while it’s hard, we can remain hopeful that it works out well, and as Flyers fans, until the ink is dry on the agreement, we will all most likely fear the worst. Welcome to Comcast Country!

Giroux wont be on the team Monday at 3pm so he wont be holding the bag. The question is the return and those who have been talking about a haul for a long time are going to be disappointed.
- hfc355

Like I said in my original post, there are a handful of moves that could be made. There is no doubt G will be moved, and like you said, we can all debate the return. Whatever so called assets we have at this point, Fletch should try to maximize his return on all of them. Lord knows we need it.

Like I said in my original post, there are a handful of moves that could be made. There is no doubt G will be moved, and like you said, we can all debate the return. Whatever so called assets we have at this point, Fletch should try to maximize his return on all of them. Lord knows we need it.
- Laceemup88

I wouldn't expect many trades from the Flyers, other than maybe a Giroux trade. The days of every non-playoff team trading most of their soon to be UFAs are over with the salary cap.

With so few teams giroux is willing to go to and other trans deciding to be sellers we may not trade him

A deal should have ahead been in the work and formally announced

Not impressed by chuckie

I wouldn't expect many trades from the Flyers, other than maybe a Giroux trade. The days of every non-playoff team trading most of their soon to be UFAs are over with the salary cap.
- Glak18

Anaheim and black hawks Montreal making it like bandits meanwhile our incompetent gm has done nothing this team is going to suck for a long time

I think Ek got a finger whooping for posting too much information and was forced to remove it. Do not trust his rumors but there is a cliche about revealing too much privileged information.

And what does Fletcher gain by holding on to him if deal is not great???
- hfc355

What’s worse losing him for nothing or losing him for a bag of pucks

As you know there is a world of difference between being able to fly around the ice in a speed competition then flying carrying a puck and avoiding hits and making hockey moves. Frost has shown very little of that so called speed in a game. Looks extremely timid
- hfc355

I guess if I was coach I’d have rustic leveling him in practice

I would have more respect for Fletcher if he held on to Giroux for the season then trade him away for "just something". The team trading for players are the ones getting the most benefit, so there is no need to help them out just so the team gets "at least something is better than nothing" bs.

Giroux holds all the cards in the offseason. He can pick his destination and how much he wants, but right now Fletcher has to do what is best for the Flyers without helping other teams because he is suppose to.
- Glak18

This is absolutely incorrect and poor asset management. Doing what is best for the Flyers is getting something for a player that is not in the future plans of the team.

The market dictates the return and it has nothing to do with “helping another team.” That should not factor in to Fletcher’s thinking at all.

Fans are going to be angry and disappointed at the return for Giroux, but at the end of the day this team has far greater problems. This trade isn’t going to make or break the team like some on here think it will.

As you know there is a world of difference between being able to fly around the ice in a speed competition then flying carrying a puck and avoiding hits and making hockey moves. Frost has shown very little of that so called speed in a game. Looks extremely timid
- hfc355

Rewatch the game against MTL where Frost was freed up to leave the D zone just a tad earlier. He was the Flyers' fastest forward. He was always able to slow down or play from a standstill in the OHL (but he'd be off the races if he sniffed out a shorthanded chance -- and has done the same for the Phantoms). He either needs to play with guys who force him to play at their pace or to adjust to it more consistently on his own. That's a lot of unlearning and relearning.

Watch the Phantoms recent game against Providence that Frost played in. That is the player the organization envisions -- fast, creative, confident, engaged over the full ice surface, wanting the puck-- and needs to see more often.

It's in there.

I’m confused why he would give Chuck a list of teams if it’s really one place he intended to be all along. Doesn’t make any sense.
- hereticpride

Needs to go to a place where he can be comfortable can’t strain himself

Anaheim and black hawks Montreal making it like bandits meanwhile our incompetent gm has done nothing this team is going to suck for a long time
- 2Real

Anaheim got a fair deal....

Montreal got more than what Chiarot is really worth....

Blackhawks got the best bang, trading a depth guy for a legit star price...

Maybe the incompetent gms are the ones willing to pay so much for lower end depth.

…and don’t forget there is pressure in places like Florida and Colorado to make a huge splash and bring a Cup home and many likely think Giroux is the final piece. So there are always two (perhaps more) sides to every trade. You think Zito wants to get thrashed because his team didn’t get past Tampa in a close series for not giving up that extra kid that’s never played in the NHL? Prospects are unknown

Anaheim got a fair deal....

Montreal got more than what Chiarot is really worth....

Blackhawks got the best bang, trading a depth guy for a legit star price...

Maybe the incompetent gms are the ones willing to pay so much for lower end depth.
- Glak18

Anaheim is higher in the standings and could have had a good win streak to get in. They’re selling to get assets and we’re losing out on opportunities

This is absolutely incorrect and poor asset management. Doing what is best for the Flyers is getting something for a player that is not in the future plans of the team.

The market dictates the return and it has nothing to do with “helping another team.” That should not factor in to Fletcher’s thinking at all.

Fans are going to be angry and disappointed at the return for Giroux, but at the end of the day this team has far greater problems. This trade isn’t going to make or break the team like some on here think it will.
- StepfordSam

Poor asset management is trading your captain for empty assets while showing other gms you have low expectations for future dealings.

Poor asset management is trading your captain for empty assets while showing other gms you have low expectations for future dealings.
- Glak18

He isn’t the captain anymore. This season is over and he isn’t signed to play here next year.

The return has everything to do with Giroux having all the power in the situation, not the GM’s perceived low expectations by other GMs.

The only mistake Fletcher can really make is not trading him and letting him walk for nothing this off-season.

He isn’t the captain anymore. This season is over and he isn’t signed to play here next year.

The return has everything to do with Giroux having all the power in the situation, not the GM’s perceived low expectations by other GMs.

The only mistake Fletcher can really make is not trying him and letting him walk for nothing this off-season.
- StepfordSam

Ok so if Fletcher trades him for a 2nd round pick all Flyer fans have to accept that he did his job and has to be given the credit he is due.

I'm saying what I said: Gagne didn't owe the Flyers anything in terms of waiving and going to Boston or elsewhere when he was set on Tampa. Mats Sundin didn't owe the Leafs anything. John Tavares didn't owe the Islanders anything when they held him til he was a UFA.

Giroux has the same right, if that's in fact how he views this.
- bmeltzer

Thanks Bill. Wasn’t sure if you were hinting that’s where he was at or explaining why he might feel that way