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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 19 @ 6:27 PM ET
So to some he is a sure fire thing if he’s treated well. Can’t wait to see those folks criticize Tippett when he’s been a better point producer in the AHL and is more NHL ready than Frost
- ClaudeFather



Why would someone criticize Tippet for being better that Frost?
black_francis
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: hockeybuzz superfan, QC
Joined: 01.10.2015

Mar 19 @ 6:27 PM ET
Has nothing to do with Fletcher at all. At the end of the Day G controls where he wants to go. FLA was the #1 choice, Chuck's only going to get what FLA is willing to offer and the Flyers cant just walk away or look elsewhere
- xShoot4WarAmpsx


This. Dude played 1000 games for this team and they are going to do right by him. Some here don't think that's a good business decision. But NOT doing that is what's going to make the Flyers a laughing stock. If you don't do right by Giroux then you should never expect any decent UFA or star player ever wanting to come here/stay here long term.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Mar 19 @ 6:28 PM ET
Myers played for years coming up as a player with not a word about low hockey IQ. He must of caught it like a virus. I dub it the O & B virus.
- MJL

He aint very good Cliff. Accept it.

Didn't even last a full year with a team that is supposed to be the one of the best in identifying dman and developing dman.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Mar 19 @ 6:28 PM ET
Myers played for years coming up as a player with not a word about low hockey IQ. He must of caught it like a virus. I dub it the O & B virus.
- MJL
I only go by what I saw at the NHL level. He appeared to really not understand the basic logistics of the game.
Lawless18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.30.2014

Mar 19 @ 6:28 PM ET
FREE AT LAST! FREEE AT LAST!!!!!
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Mar 19 @ 6:28 PM ET
They started questioning him during a bad season team wise. A player doesn't have a good hockey IQ and then develop a bad hockey IQ. A low hockey IQ is not Myers issue.
- MJL

Who ever said he had good hockey IQ? He came up as a raw* player that had the tools (size and mobility) to be a good player. Where was this good IQ talked about?
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Mar 19 @ 6:29 PM ET
Tippet cannot be the center piece of the deal, he simply is not close to good enough, not a top 6 forward even.
- jd250

Well looks like your God Chuck didn't get what you insisted he needed to get.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Mar 19 @ 6:29 PM ET
Why would someone criticize Tippet for being better that Frost?
- MJL

Contradicting themselves when criticizing Fletcher for the trade
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Mar 19 @ 6:30 PM ET
Nashville wasn't impressed with that size and mobility. What good is it if you can't play?

Yes you can absolutely find a #6th dman for less than 2.5. See Justin Braun as 1 example.

Ivan Sanheim RR York (will exclude Ellis). Why on earth do you want to add Myers to that average at best group of 4 if your looking to improve??

- hello it's me 2050


Nashville has an over abundance of home grown dmen and they're winning, so they don't (frank) with the lineup.

Braun cost the Flyers two top-90 picks to acquire. And he extended before ever coming close to UFA. Not exactly what I'm talking about.

I'd rather have Myers than the next Connaughton, Seeler or Yandle that Chucky fishes out of the dregs.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Mar 19 @ 6:30 PM ET
They started questioning him during a bad season team wise. A player doesn't have a good hockey IQ and then develop a bad hockey IQ. A low hockey IQ is not Myers issue.
- MJL

Then what is the issue? He just isnt very good overall?
black_francis
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: hockeybuzz superfan, QC
Joined: 01.10.2015

Mar 19 @ 6:30 PM ET
They started questioning him during a bad season team wise. A player doesn't have a good hockey IQ and then develop a bad hockey IQ. A low hockey IQ is not Myers issue.
- MJL


or perhaps his hockey IQ just wasn't enough to stay in the NHL.

what NHL team was he playing for so well before the Flyers? Oh right no one. So he's 0/2 at the NHL level. But yeah let's sign him.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Mar 19 @ 6:30 PM ET
Chuck is not a good GM. Many things to rip him for, this deal however isnt one of them. His hands were clearly tied.
Sinisalo4vr
Location: Dont f with the Jesus, PA
Joined: 06.24.2016

Mar 19 @ 6:30 PM ET
You beat me to it. Literally the worst prospect linked to a trade for G. Hoping there is a lot more, but Fletch is a clown so there may not be. Although, G probably didn’t want to go out west and it may have limited the gm.
- darkerens

What prospects were linked to a Giroux trade other than Baron from Colorado, a team Giroux wouldn’t approve a trade to and Tippet from the only team Giroux would approve a trade to?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 19 @ 6:31 PM ET
I only go by what I saw at the NHL level. He appeared to really not understand the basic logistics of the game.
- Phillywhiteout


Didn't seem to have any issue understanding the game from 2017 through 2020.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Mar 19 @ 6:32 PM ET
Not likely.
- MJL

Why do you say that. Look what Chicago and Anaheim are getting, how can G not return a really good haul? Don't tell me you are going to the reply with "Fletcher is incompetent ..."
arichardson22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Mar 19 @ 6:32 PM ET
Apparently we got Tippett and 2024 1st (so far)
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Mar 19 @ 6:33 PM ET
Nashville has an over abundance of home grown dmen and they're winning, so they don't (frank) with the lineup.

Braun cost the Flyers two top-90 picks to acquire. And he extended before ever coming close to UFA. Not exactly what I'm talking about.

- Tomahawk

I do not care what Braun cost to acquire 3 years ago.

All that matter sis currently he is a bottom pairing dman. That is what he was signed for. He was a free agent and resigned. Either way there are dman who you can get chepaer than 2.5 to play on the bottom pair.


Stop with the Nashville excuse why they waived him. They waived him because they dont think he can play. With the playoffs coming up you think they would want him for depth at worst. Nope bye bye
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Mar 19 @ 6:33 PM ET
What prospects were linked to a Giroux trade other than Baron from Colorado, a team Giroux wouldn’t approve a trade to and Tippet from the only team Giroux would approve a trade to?
- Sinisalo4vr

I read somewhere Martin Kaut was part of the package.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 19 @ 6:33 PM ET
Nashville has an over abundance of home grown dmen and they're winning, so they don't (frank) with the lineup.

Braun cost the Flyers two top-90 picks to acquire. And he extended before ever coming close to UFA. Not exactly what I'm talking about.

I'd rather have Myers than the next Connaughton, Seeler or Yandle that Chucky fishes out of the dregs.

- Tomahawk


The Flyers don't have much of a RH shot defensive prospect base. The Flyers should be looking to amass young talent. They aren't going to do that though. They're likely going to move youth in a effort to win now.
darkerens
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.24.2017

Mar 19 @ 6:33 PM ET
What prospects were linked to a Giroux trade other than Baron from Colorado, a team Giroux wouldn’t approve a trade to and Tippet from the only team Giroux would approve a trade to?
- Sinisalo4vr


Can you link to the article where G’s approved teams are because i didn’t see one and you seem to know?
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Mar 19 @ 6:34 PM ET
Didn't seem to have any issue understanding the game from 2017 through 2020.
- MJL

Think your Dad will put in a claim?
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Mar 19 @ 6:34 PM ET
Why do you say that. Look what Chicago and Anaheim are getting, how can G not return a really good haul? Don't tell me you are going to the reply with "Fletcher is incompetent ..."
- jd250

You really can’t wrap your head around this can you? The fact that you are questioning this trade and were in favor of Fletchers off-season this past summer is the cherry on top of your idiotic posts
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 19 @ 6:34 PM ET
Why do you say that. Look what Chicago and Anaheim are getting, how can G not return a really good haul? Don't tell me you are going to the reply with "Fletcher is incompetent ..."
- jd250


Lindholm doesn't have a NMC. I'm going to reply that I have to explain everything to you.
black_francis
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: hockeybuzz superfan, QC
Joined: 01.10.2015

Mar 19 @ 6:34 PM ET
Why do you say that. Look what Chicago and Anaheim are getting, how can G not return a really good haul? Don't tell me you are going to the reply with "Fletcher is incompetent ..."
- jd250


because the team is going to do right by G and send him where he wants to go. he can also say he wants to finish the year with the Flyers. Florida is only going to give up what they absolutely have to - they aren't in a bidding war.

how do you not get that?
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Mar 19 @ 6:35 PM ET
The Flyers don't have much of a RH shot defensive prospect base. The Flyers should be looking to amass young talent. They aren't going to do that though. They're likely going to move youth in a effort to win now.
- MJL

If Fletcher trades his 2022 1st round pick, which should be in the top 3, then I will agree with you. Otherwise based on what he gets back from the G trade and if he uses the pick, then its clear he is not going that route.
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