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Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Mar 20 @ 5:49 PM ET
Benning uses a second for Toffoli . HB posters scream

Rutherford gives up a third for heathy scratch Dermott . HB posters elated

- VANTEL

Benning needed to hire more AGM’s
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Mar 20 @ 5:51 PM ET
So much for not being pessimistic. The old guy in here will find any way to spin it but fooling nobody.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Mar 20 @ 5:52 PM ET
Benning needed to hire more AGM’s
- Nucker101

Also a better analytics team
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Mar 20 @ 5:53 PM ET
Frank Seravalli
@frank_seravalli
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38m
Confirming #LeafsForever are sending two 2nd round picks and a 3rd round pick #SeaKraken in exchange for Mark Giordano and Colin Blackwell.

#SeaKraken retains 50% on Giordano, whose preference was to go home to play for TOR.

The two teams that were supposedly in on Tyler Motte have now traded for Hagel and Blackwell instead.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Mar 20 @ 5:53 PM ET
Also a better analytics team
- manvanfan

A better pro scouting department as well. It's a long list.
Load Management
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Billings Spit, BC
Joined: 09.22.2019

Mar 20 @ 5:53 PM ET
Benning uses a second for Toffoli . HB posters scream

Rutherford gives up a third for heathy scratch Dermott . HB posters elated

- VANTEL


I still like the move. Dermott isn't nearly as bad as you're making him out to be. Hamonic needed to be moved. He was at a decent gain. End of story.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 20 @ 5:54 PM ET
I don't see the Canucks D being worse. The quality of player they brought in is probably equal to the one they sent out but different. For 1.5M less. It just doesn't solve the Canucks actual defensive problem.
- manvanfan


This is pretty much the point . All the hoopla of doing SFA. It is still the same D with a bit of a downgrade but they just spent an extra 1.5 mil needlessly and traded a draft pick ( that many here cherish) to acquire a player that is equivalent to Poolman or Burroughs.

Very Jim Benning like move.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Mar 20 @ 5:54 PM ET
For the life of me idk why JR hired a GM & the AGM’s & analytics ppl when he’s the man & trades on his own.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Mar 20 @ 5:54 PM ET
This is pretty much the point . All the hoopla of doing SFA. It is still the same D with a bit of a downgrade but they just spent an extra 1.5 mil needlessly and traded a draft pick ( that many here cherish) to acquire a player that is equivalent to Poolman or Burroughs.

Very Jim Benning like move.

- VANTEL

Yup, people would be shredding Benning if he made these exact moves
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 20 @ 5:55 PM ET
The two teams that were supposedly in on Tyler Motte have now traded for Hagel and Blackwell instead.
- manvanfan


4 x 2.25 for Motte ?
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Mar 20 @ 5:56 PM ET
Yup, people would be shredding Benning if he made these exact moves
- Nucker101

Good thing for him he stood pat every TDL.
Fidel
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Twitter
Joined: 08.11.2006

Mar 20 @ 5:56 PM ET
This is pretty much the point . All the hoopla of doing SFA. It is still the same D with a bit of a downgrade but they just spent an extra 1.5 mil needlessly and traded a draft pick ( that many here cherish) to acquire a player that is equivalent to Poolman or Burroughs.

Very Jim Benning like move.

- VANTEL


The 1.5m extra will be used on a major trade incoming. Lets wait and trust the jim president
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Mar 20 @ 5:56 PM ET
This is pretty much the point . All the hoopla of doing SFA. It is still the same D with a bit of a downgrade but they just spent an extra 1.5 mil needlessly and traded a draft pick ( that many here cherish) to acquire a player that is equivalent to Poolman or Burroughs.

Very Jim Benning like move.

- VANTEL

Grass is always greener.

Probably could have picked Dermott off waivers next October.

Edit: not to mention that Troy Stecher probably close to level of Dermott went for a 7th even though he is an UFA at the end of the year, which is probably a better thing.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Mar 20 @ 5:56 PM ET
Yup, people would be shredding Benning if he made these exact moves
- Nucker101

Or revisionist history for many months to come. Just cannot let it go lol
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Mar 20 @ 5:59 PM ET
4 x 2.25 for Motte ?
- VANTEL

I said I add about 800K to every contract I see now a days, so that would somewhat align with the 1.6 I would prefer to pay him.

Nucker said 3M for 3rd liners are the going rate now though so 2.2 I guess isn't bad for a 4th liner.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 20 @ 6:00 PM ET
Yup, people would be shredding Benning if he made these exact moves
- Nucker101


I haven't seen anything different from this new group that I seen with the old one. I think again people were so desperate for change the would be happy with any type of change.


1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Mar 20 @ 6:01 PM ET
Thanks Carol!

I’d say Schenn is untouchable. I’d rather have him on the team next year than having an extra 5th round pick or whatever. I guess if it was a pick in the top 50 you’d have to consider it, but he’s more valuable next year than that.

Move:
Myers
Hamonic
OEL
Poolman
Richardinson
Highmore
Motte
Pearson
Halak

If the deal is good:
Boeser
Horvat
Miller
Pettersson
Höglander
Podkolzin
Garland

If the deal is really good:
Demko

Did I miss anyone?
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Mar 20 @ 6:01 PM ET
I haven't seen anything different from this new group that I seen with the old one. I think again people were so desperate for change the would be happy with any type of change.
- VANTEL

100%
Load Management
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Billings Spit, BC
Joined: 09.22.2019

Mar 20 @ 6:01 PM ET
This is pretty much the point . All the hoopla of doing SFA. It is still the same D with a bit of a downgrade but they just spent an extra 1.5 mil needlessly and traded a draft pick ( that many here cherish) to acquire a player that is equivalent to Poolman or Burroughs.

Very Jim Benning like move.

- VANTEL


Burroughs is 26 and has 41 NHL games under his belt. Poolman was overpaid by Benning. Of the 3 I'll happily take Dermott at 1.5.

Now please explain to me where you move out a 3 mil guy for a 1.5 mil guy and you're spending worse than Benning?

Fuck.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Mar 20 @ 6:03 PM ET
100%
- Nucker101

https://twitter.com/scott...tatus/1442658662749720586

Oh, that's a OHL player doing that to him
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Mar 20 @ 6:05 PM ET
I thought you didn't read Dhaliwal?
- Marwood


VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 20 @ 6:05 PM ET
Grass is always greener.

Probably could have picked Dermott off waivers next October.

Edit: not to mention that Troy Stecher probably close to level of Dermott went for a 7th even though he is an UFA at the end of the year, which is probably a better thing.

- manvanfan


Stecher got traded to LA today I think ?

I would have left Burroughs to play the year or Poolman . Keep the three mil cap and the draft pick.

I know Burroughs is injured . Juulsen could have played a few games until Poolman is at full availability .
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Mar 20 @ 6:05 PM ET
Burroughs is 26 and has 41 NHL games under his belt. Poolman was overpaid by Benning. Of the 3 I'll happily take Dermott at 1.5.

Now please explain to me where you move out a 3 mil guy for a 1.5 mil guy and you're spending worse than Benning?

Fuck.

- Load Management

I might just have to an early pregame Guiness with ‘all the hoopla’ going on in here 😂😂

After all it costed us 1.5m.

Just wait for a significant move to happen & watch the poop fly lol
Jkuzzi
Joined: 12.14.2016

Mar 20 @ 6:05 PM ET
Benning would have brought in the older, more expensive guy

Hopefully Dermott just needs a change of scenery. The cap savings help.

- NewYorkNuck


That's a great deal. We have a bottom 6 dman at half price from what we traded. We just paid for Halak. Next move let's go
Fidel
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Twitter
Joined: 08.11.2006

Mar 20 @ 6:06 PM ET
Pls send the link of the Dermont highlights
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