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VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 21 @ 3:43 PM ET
The two players that were traded away, didn't change the team much. Maybe as individual talent goes but they sure as heck weren't making their line mates better or defensive partners.
- manvanfan


I agree but we downgraded a slight amount and the team is still no further ahead.

Even though I am not a fan of Motte trading for a fourth with this new group to me is like trading for a player we will never see in the NHL with that fourth round pick. It is the equivalence of letting him walk.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Mar 21 @ 3:45 PM ET
Your first time since 2016?
- manvanfan


Not true. I was pretty optimistic in the summer when they moved Schmidt, and was okay with the OEL acquisition, although I hate giving up 1st round picks, but it all changed when they re-signed Green.
The stink of Benning has to be removed, all of it.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 21 @ 3:48 PM ET
Not true. I was pretty optimistic in the summer when they moved Schmidt, and was okay with the OEL acquisition, although I hate giving up 1st round picks, but it all changed when they re-signed Green.
The stink of Benning has to be removed, all of it.

- Reubenkincade


I said a few times it is fine to move on from Benning as long as the team is not taking a step backwards or starting all over again. Said that for years and I am not sure we didn't take a step backwards. Still early. These last two days for me has really shown the inexperience of the new group. It is like going back 8 years ago.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Mar 21 @ 3:49 PM ET
When it comes down to posters opinions on here many have good ideas & not so good. Overall though there is a very good basis as a group of what is needed to be done. Cast aside the whining & histrionics & the picture becomes more clear.

WE ALL AGREE D NEEDS A TOP 3-4 RHD man.

DEMKO IS A STUD.

After that we all waffle on semantics but the ideas are have merit. Lets just support management & the team & be optimistic.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Mar 21 @ 3:49 PM ET
shooting way above your capabilities and misjudging the market competition is something that this franchise had done for the last 8 years lol.


its sort of nice for a change that they aren't buyers and are not pretending to be something they aren't.

The whole philosophy of "you never know what happens in the playoffs" is such a garbage statement. The only reference is STL and LAK, the sample size is insanely low and both of those teams AT LEAST had size/grit, the Canucks are soft.

- Codes1087

Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Mar 21 @ 3:49 PM ET
I said a few times it is fine to move on from Benning as long as the team is not taking a step backwards or starting all over again. Said that for years and I am not sure we didn't take a step backwards. Still early. These last two days for me has really shown the inexperience of the new group. It is like going back 8 years ago.
- VANTEL


We’ll see this summer but so far it’s all pretty meh
Load Management
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Billings Spit, BC
Joined: 09.22.2019

Mar 21 @ 3:50 PM ET
I agree but we downgraded a slight amount and the team is still no further ahead.

Even though I am not a fan of Motte trading for a fourth with this new group to me is like trading for a player we will never see in the NHL with that fourth round pick. It is the equivalence of letting him walk.

- VANTEL


So, let me get this straight. You're pissed when we trade an unpopular player for a 3rd rounder, then trade the 3rd rounder for a cheaper, more likeable comparable player.

You are also pissed when we trade a player for a 4th because that's the equivalent of letting him walk.

Give me a fucking break man.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 21 @ 3:51 PM ET
We’ll see this summer but so far it’s all pretty meh
- Nucker101


Still early but do you see a team wanting to trade for Myers OEL Boeser? I don't . Teams want our good contracts like Schenn Garland Hoglander .
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Mar 21 @ 3:52 PM ET
Those aren’t even good examples. ST.L was the best team in the league from the new year on. LA, also dominated from the TDL on.
- 1970vintage

We were the hottest team going into the ‘82 PO’s.

Just sayin…
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Mar 21 @ 3:52 PM ET
I said a few times it is fine to move on from Benning as long as the team is not taking a step backwards or starting all over again. Said that for years and I am not sure we didn't take a step backwards. Still early. These last two days for me has really shown the inexperience of the new group. It is like going back 8 years ago.
- VANTEL


Motte got what I expected, which is slightly more than the 5th, Hamonic gone is just a bonus and they got a 25 year old defenseman that is liked by a couple of media people that I respect and value the opinion of.
No complaints here.
I would have liked to have seen Boeser and Garland gone this tdl, but we shall see what happens there.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Mar 21 @ 3:54 PM ET
Still early but do you see a team wanting to trade for Myers OEL Boeser? I don't . Teams want our good contracts like Schenn Garland Hoglander .
- VANTEL


Garland is not a good contract for a 3rd liner.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Mar 21 @ 3:54 PM ET
When it comes down to posters opinions on here many have good ideas & not so good. Overall though there is a very good basis as a group of what is needed to be done. Cast aside the whining & histrionics & the picture becomes more clear.

WE ALL AGREE D NEEDS A TOP 3-4 RHD man.

DEMKO IS A STUD.

After that we all waffle on semantics but the ideas are have merit. Lets just support management & the team & be optimistic.

- Nighthawk

This is the fucking problem, if you keep supporting this crap you will get fed an endless supply of crap.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Mar 21 @ 3:54 PM ET
Those aren’t even good examples. ST.L was the best team in the league from the new year on. LA, also dominated from the TDL on.
- 1970vintage


I agree, they are the only examples that keep getting over used when it comes to the "anything can happen once in the playoffs" crowd.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 21 @ 3:55 PM ET
So, let me get this straight. You're pissed when we trade an unpopular player for a 3rd rounder, then trade the 3rd rounder for a cheaper, more likeable comparable player.

You are also pissed when we trade a player for a 4th because that's the equivalent of letting him walk.

Give me a fucking break man.

- Load Management


I am not pissed at the Motte trade . It is a trade that does SFA. It is as if nothing happened but not pissed. In fact I am saying it was a pretty unimportant move.

Give yourself some time , it wont be long before people here don't like Dermott and are screaming at the trade.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Mar 21 @ 3:55 PM ET
I agree but we downgraded a slight amount and the team is still no further ahead.

Even though I am not a fan of Motte trading for a fourth with this new group to me is like trading for a player we will never see in the NHL with that fourth round pick. It is the equivalence of letting him walk.

- VANTEL

You don’t KNOW this. You are saying no gems can be unearthed in later rounds. Showing off your negativity. Doom & gloom. You also are short sighted not seeing that picks & players can change hands before then. You also ignore on draft day picks can be used to trade up or down.

Narrative busted.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Mar 21 @ 3:56 PM ET
I agree but we downgraded a slight amount and the team is still no further ahead.

Even though I am not a fan of Motte trading for a fourth with this new group to me is like trading for a player we will never see in the NHL with that fourth round pick. It is the equivalence of letting him walk.

- VANTEL

It's something for nothing. I will take a 4th round pick. I think the fact that he wasn't going for a 3rd or a 2nd, shows what type of value that player has to other teams.

Low percentage chance but Jim left behind a bunch of good scouts.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Mar 21 @ 3:57 PM ET
Not true. I was pretty optimistic in the summer when they moved Schmidt, and was okay with the OEL acquisition, although I hate giving up 1st round picks, but it all changed when they re-signed Green.
The stink of Benning has to be removed, all of it.

- Reubenkincade

JR & company will put their own mark on the team like every new regime does.

Are you looking forward to it?
Sayros
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canada, AB
Joined: 07.01.2007

Mar 21 @ 3:57 PM ET
I actually think you have some of the best insight on what is real.

FA doesn't give a rats ass about the 25 regular posters on here and he is making money hand over fist. As long as the money keeps rolling in he is a happy guy.

- VANTEL


But how do we build out from our 4th line now? I thought that was the strategy ... get the 4th line figured out and the rest will follow suit.

That was obviously the main issue before when we couldn't get the 4th figured out with Roussel, Beagle, Ferkland, Eriksson, Gaudette, etc.

Oh well, back to the ole drawing board.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Mar 21 @ 3:57 PM ET
Domi to the Canes.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 21 @ 3:58 PM ET
It's something for nothing. I will take a 4th round pick. I think the fact that he wasn't going for a 3rd or a 2nd, shows what type of value that player has to other teams.

Low percentage chance but Jim left behind a bunch of good scouts.

- manvanfan


If that was true Dermott would not be on our roster.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Mar 21 @ 3:58 PM ET
So, let me get this straight. You're pissed when we trade an unpopular player for a 3rd rounder, then trade the 3rd rounder for a cheaper, more likeable comparable player.

You are also pissed when we trade a player for a 4th because that's the equivalent of letting him walk.

Give me a fucking break man.

- Load Management

Insufferable isn’t it? 😂
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Mar 21 @ 4:00 PM ET
We’ll see this summer but so far it’s all pretty meh
- Nucker101

Got to make the right moves and not rash moves.
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Mar 21 @ 4:02 PM ET
I am not pissed at the Motte trade . It is a trade that does SFA. It is as if nothing happened but not pissed. In fact I am saying it was a pretty unimportant move.

Give yourself some time , it wont be long before people here don't like Dermott and are screaming at the trade.

- VANTEL


Bruh, I've been here a day and you sound like some of the guys in the Toronto blog. That is that you wouldn't be happy even if Canucks won a cup....
Load Management
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Billings Spit, BC
Joined: 09.22.2019

Mar 21 @ 4:02 PM ET
I am not pissed at the Motte trade . It is a trade that does SFA. It is as if nothing happened but not pissed. In fact I am saying it was a pretty unimportant move.

Give yourself some time , it wont be long before people here don't like Dermott and are screaming at the trade.

- VANTEL


I don't think the expectations are really that high for him. 1 year at 1.5 mil is the exactly the kind of time and money I'm willing to give.

We don't have the defensive depth to trade any Dman straight up for picks right now. That's the reality I'm trying to bring you to.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Mar 21 @ 4:03 PM ET
Garland is not a good contract for a 3rd liner.
- Reubenkincade

I agree but he’s cast there while others get more TOI they don’t deserve. This offseason something has to give. As of now he out produces Boeser & he’s cheaper. He drives play BB doesn’t. He’s feisty & goes into the dirty areas BB doesn’t. He’s a pesky agitator well BB isn’t. Just my thoughts.
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