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Forums :: Blog World :: Carol Schram: With playoff hopes dimming, Canucks' management has big decisions to make
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Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Mar 21 @ 5:30 PM ET
Klingberg is pretty shaky defensively from what I've read and seen
- Nucker101

He’s ok but brings some offense & size. It’s the price/term that will matter. Age is an issue but there isn’t much of an option out there for RHD. Never is lol.

So don’t make a play him we are back to square one. Leaves us with trading for a good young RHD prospect that won’t come cheap. LAK come to mind & they need scoring from the wing. Boeser hopefully.
Faber or Grans but they still add.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 21 @ 5:30 PM ET
𝗖𝗵𝗿𝗶𝘀 Faber 🔥🎙
@ChrisFaber39
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53m
Allvin confirms that Vasily Podkolzin has been papered down to the AHL and can join them for an AHL playoff run.
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Tank
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Mar 21 @ 5:32 PM ET
yeah because he is another new GM with no reach or depth. All he has been doing is cashing checks and riding Benning's team with a new coach. He will probably give Demko the C in the off season....
- TJTD

Ya im sure an experienced GM like Rutherford doesnt help at all. They all just cashing checks
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Mar 21 @ 5:32 PM ET
He’s ok but brings some offense & size. It’s the price/term that will matter. Age is an issue but there isn’t much of an option out there for RHD. Never is lol.

So don’t make a play him we are back to square one. Leaves us with trading for a good young RHD prospect that won’t come cheap. LAK come to mind & they need scoring from the wing. Boeser hopefully.
Faber or Grans but they still add.

- Nighthawk


This team needs a guy who can babysit Hughes effectively first. Klingberg isn't it and wouldn't get PP1 time here
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Mar 21 @ 5:33 PM ET
Ya im sure an experienced GM like Rutherford doesnt help at all. They all just cashing checks
- neem55



our GM is a rookie GM, not JR
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Mar 21 @ 5:34 PM ET
This team needs a guy who can babysit Hughes effectively first. Klingberg isn't it and wouldn't get PP1 time here
- Nucker101

Yes I’ve actually gone luke warm on Klingberg. The focus might have to be on the top 9 & a full camp under BB.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Mar 21 @ 5:35 PM ET
Still sounds like they are evaluating their players and prospects and are trying to offload before they start assembling. Also sounds like they have been paying close attention to lockwood and Rathbone and said they will see time with canucks
- Codes1087

I'm just listening to the full interview right now.

Right now
Mentions getting younger and creating more cap space,

"Would you have liked to have ducked or created more flexibility in an ideal world? "

His response.

"It's just not only to create cap space, you want to make sure you are looking at the bigger picture, how you want to build the team and what you want to accomplish."

"You can do both things there, looking in every way to improve the hockey club"
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Mar 21 @ 5:35 PM ET
our GM is a rookie GM, not JR
- Nucker101

Right and his boss was a GM for years and has the reach and depth of experience he was referring too. Its pretty clear who is running the show imo.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 21 @ 5:35 PM ET
our GM is a rookie GM, not JR
- Nucker101


It gets confusing in here when you ask who is running the team. It changes daily.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Mar 21 @ 5:35 PM ET
𝗖𝗵𝗿𝗶𝘀 Faber 🔥🎙
@ChrisFaber39
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53m
Allvin confirms that Vasily Podkolzin has been papered down to the AHL and can join them for an AHL playoff run.
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Tank

- VANTEL

Papered not sent
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Mar 21 @ 5:36 PM ET
I see as no panic & building a market for potential trades. Still in the assessment phase nearing its end. Dermot is a subtle change that has some nice potential. Cap management is still a priority & will lead to how some changes go down
- Nighthawk


I think its less about not panicking and more that this management group is still very new. I imagine they don't have as much information on players from top to bottom that they would like. I think summer time is a more suitable time to make moves given how recently the turnover was
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 21 @ 5:36 PM ET
Right and his boss was a GM for years and has the reach and depth of experience he was referring too. Its pretty clear who is running the show imo.
- neem55


Is it?
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Mar 21 @ 5:37 PM ET
Right and his boss was a GM for years and has the reach and depth of experience he was referring too. Its pretty clear who is running the show imo.
- neem55

JR is guiding the ship while he delegates to ppl whilst mentoring them. A process that has the time given where the team is at.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 21 @ 5:37 PM ET
Papered not sent
- manvanfan


Yes I know . It makes him available for Abbys playoffs. Also a pretty clear message that the new Mgmt doesn't think Canucks are a playoff team.

Paperwork needed to be done very soon for him to qualify.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Mar 21 @ 5:39 PM ET
Is it?
- VANTEL

Yeah we have a President of Hockey Operations
TJTD
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 02.06.2007

Mar 21 @ 5:40 PM ET
Right and his boss was a GM for years and has the reach and depth of experience he was referring too. Its pretty clear who is running the show imo.
- neem55

proof is in the pudding. If the roster was "bad" then they would have traded the pieces. Benning needed Rutherford, but Benning is gone. Canucks needed Bruce, but Rutherford didn't hire Bruce. The Canucks didn't need Allvin, but we got him....


LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Mar 21 @ 5:41 PM ET
Can use it for Jake , Holtby buyout 2.4 mil

- VANTEL

Benning
DariusKnight
Vancouver Canucks
Location: "The Alien has landed in Vancouver!"
Joined: 03.09.2006

Mar 21 @ 5:41 PM ET
I don't see the team going full rebuild . Going to the game a couple of weeks ago was an eye opener of what it is like in the real world outside HB. They are making outrageous money , having a great time . Selling merch , drinking expensive beer , eating bad food for big bucks and a general party. Aquillini is not tearing this down and going full rebuild for Beddard.
- VANTEL


A bump due to restrictions on seating and masks being lifted is not going to last very long. I don't see FA willing to see empty seats once the team mediocres it's way to complete irrelevancy once the Boudreau Effect ends (if it hasn't already)
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 21 @ 5:42 PM ET
Yeah we have a President of Hockey Operations
- neem55


I heard . Whilst he mentors . Old guy is going to be pretty tired.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Mar 21 @ 5:42 PM ET
I helped Loady out a bit last week. 5-7. It seems my scoring falls off only when I match up against the 4 ahead of me. If not then goalies shat da bed. My team is solid but a bubble team like our Nucks but I WILL make the PO’s.
- Nighthawk

I have a feeling he will pass me next week as he's playing one of the dead accounts at the bottom of the standings
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Mar 21 @ 5:44 PM ET
I'm just listening to the full interview right now.

Right now
Mentions getting younger and creating more cap space,

"Would you have liked to have ducked or created more flexibility in an ideal world? "

His response.

"It's just not only to create cap space, you want to make sure you are looking at the bigger picture, how you want to build the team and what you want to accomplish."

"You can do both things there, looking in every way to improve the hockey club"

- manvanfan


sxqhfeh
Joined: 10.18.2016

Mar 21 @ 5:45 PM ET
Hansen once again with a great take:

"What needs to happen with Tyler Motte?"

Jannik Hansen: "It doesn't matter. He's a 4th liner. These are fringe moves. The changes this team needs are way more expensive than the Tyler Motte's"
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Mar 21 @ 5:45 PM ET
Yes I know . It makes him available for Abbys playoffs. Also a pretty clear message that the new Mgmt doesn't think Canucks are a playoff team.

Paperwork needed to be done very soon for him to qualify.

- VANTEL

Why would you waste the opportunity for a younger player to get valuable experience if he can?

Allvin said he hopes they continue the push for the playoffs.

Management not thinking the team is worthy of the playoffs and papering down a player have no correlation at all.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Mar 21 @ 5:45 PM ET
I think its less about not panicking and more that this management group is still very new. I imagine they don't have as much information on players from top to bottom that they would like. I think summer time is a more suitable time to make moves given how recently the turnover was
- Codes1087

Pretty much agree. Panic could also be read as knee jerk. I’m fine with letting the process take place. I’m not on Confusion Island with how or who runs the team. Until a very significant move has been made I’m cool with how things have gone so far with the new regime.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 21 @ 5:46 PM ET
A bump due to restrictions on seating and masks being lifted is not going to last very long. I don't see FA willing to see empty seats once the team mediocres it's way to complete irrelevancy once the Boudreau Effect ends (if it hasn't already)
- DariusKnight


I don't know if Boudreau Effect is correct . They looked burnt out. They have been trying to catch up for 30 games now .


The masks and restricted occupancy is not a sure thing so no use getting concerned about it yet .
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