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corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Mar 22 @ 1:42 PM ET
Flyers have pretty much a full roster.

Tippett and Frost are RFA. Wouldnt really expect any raise for them.

Need 2 4th line wingers

3rd pair RD

Backup G

Replacement for Giroux.

JVR and Konecny likely on their way out 7mill+5.5mill.

Cap space shouldnt be an issue.

- xShoot4WarAmpsx


Nate Thompson would be a good fit
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 22 @ 1:48 PM ET
Maybe Owen Tippett should... you know... like play more than one game... or maybe even score a single point... before we declare he's a replacement for anybody?

Same thing with Allison... how about if we see if he can stay healthy for more than 5 secs before writing his name in permanent marker?

- Tomahawk


You think!
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Mar 22 @ 1:51 PM ET
Maybe Owen Tippett should... you know... like play more than one game... or maybe even score a single point... before we declare he's a replacement for anybody?

Same thing with Allison... how about if we see if he can stay healthy for more than 5 secs before writing his name in permanent marker?

- Tomahawk


Hogwash! Allison is a Yandle like fixture in next years lineup. 🤣
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Mar 22 @ 1:55 PM ET
You think!

- MJL


I swear, some of the stuff I read on this site... an 8-year old could poke holes thru these arguments.
iamscore2day
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Alexandria, VA
Joined: 03.23.2021

Mar 22 @ 1:59 PM ET
LOL. Please share this inside information that you have here. Do you know what a fallacy is?
- MJL

He has plainly been to XXX movies. C'mon man.
THE BLACK HAND
Joined: 06.09.2021

Mar 22 @ 1:59 PM ET
I heard they're going to try pyramid power next
- Scoob

THE BLACK HAND
Joined: 06.09.2021

Mar 22 @ 2:00 PM ET
Lol, I totally just got an image of Ellis on the training table covered in healing crystals, with incense burning in the corner.
- Tomahawk

iamscore2day
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Alexandria, VA
Joined: 03.23.2021

Mar 22 @ 2:01 PM ET
Oh wait, I found a post mocking me, where the guy completely missed the point. Oh how torn up am I?
- SuperSchennBros

Actually, I was agreeing with you.
iamscore2day
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Alexandria, VA
Joined: 03.23.2021

Mar 22 @ 2:04 PM ET
The point is I challenge anyone to show me that Sanheim's and Risto's metrics are really that different. I just quickly ran by the last 3 games which I know is not a good sample size to illustrates a point.
- jd250

Didn't Appleyard have a metric showing that RR was 237 out of 240 NHL defensemen for a period lasting several years? Quick question: is that shorter or longer than a 3-game dataset?
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Mar 22 @ 2:05 PM ET
Maybe Owen Tippett should... you know... like play more than one game... or maybe even score a single point... before we declare he's a replacement for anybody?

Same thing with Allison... how about if we see if he can stay healthy for more than 5 secs before writing his name in permanent marker?

- Tomahawk


Him and Frost are 23 right now. They need to be on the roster at this point. Both are unlikely to be NHL players if they cant play the 3rd line at 24 years old. We are also talking 3rd line production. If Tippet scores 20 on the 3rd line in a season, thats a great year. It has been one game but you can tell by the way he plays he has the skills to be an NHL player.

Konecny is a luxury at this point. He's too much for the 3rd line and we got too many guys for the top 6. Go with the a young 3rd line and let them figure it out. Its crazy seeing the same people crying about frost not being on the team are the same people saying Tippett shouldnt. They are the same age and both in the same situation.
bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Mar 22 @ 2:05 PM ET
It's about being righter.
- atibus


my meaning of right could be different than yours
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Mar 22 @ 2:07 PM ET
Apparently Vegas deal is going to be voided. Flyers could take advantage of this if PHI isnt on Dadanov's No trade list. Vegas needs that cap space. Dadanov wouldnt be eligible to play this season which is my understanding but we could get a pick
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Mar 22 @ 2:12 PM ET
Apparently Vegas deal is going to be voided. Flyers could take advantage of this if PHI isnt on Dadanov's No trade list. Vegas needs that cap space. Dadanov wouldnt be eligible to play this season which is my understanding but we could get a pick
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

What picks does Florida even have left lol

Also, just a guess but if he doesn’t want to go to Vegas I’m guessing he doesn’t want to come here either.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Mar 22 @ 2:18 PM ET
What picks does Florida even have left lol

Also, just a guess but if he doesn’t want to go to Vegas I’m guessing he doesn’t want to come here either.

- hereticpride

Florida? He’s currently on Vegas.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Mar 22 @ 2:21 PM ET
What picks does Florida even have left lol

Also, just a guess but if he doesn’t want to go to Vegas I’m guessing he doesn’t want to come here either.

- hereticpride


He was on Vegas and traded to Anaheim which was on his no trade list.
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Mar 22 @ 2:23 PM ET
Him and Frost are 23 right now. They need to be on the roster at this point. Both are unlikely to be NHL players if they cant play the 3rd line at 24 years old. We are also talking 3rd line production. If Tippet scores 20 on the 3rd line in a season, thats a great year. It has been one game but you can tell by the way he plays he has the skills to be an NHL player.

Konecny is a luxury at this point. He's too much for the 3rd line and we got too many guys for the top 6. Go with the a young 3rd line and let them figure it out. Its crazy seeing the same people crying about frost not being on the team are the same people saying Tippett shouldnt. They are the same age and both in the same situation.

- xShoot4WarAmpsx


Again, you're talking about this guy scoring 20-goals on the 3rd-line and he hasn't scored a single goal yet. And you're talking about a guy with multiple 20-goals seasons under his belt being a "luxury" to a team that has trouble scoring goals. The logic just doesn't work out.

Yes, Tippett should be in the lineup. Yes, he should be playing as much as possible, as high up in the lineup as possible. But no, that does not mean TK should be the odd man out.
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Mar 22 @ 2:23 PM ET
Apparently Vegas deal is going to be voided. Flyers could take advantage of this if PHI isnt on Dadanov's No trade list. Vegas needs that cap space. Dadanov wouldnt be eligible to play this season which is my understanding but we could get a pick
- xShoot4WarAmpsx


The Flyers could and should if it earns them an asset. Dadonov just can't play in the POs if he's traded after the deadline. He could still suit up for the final x number of regular season games, tho.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 22 @ 2:24 PM ET


Konecny is a luxury at this point. He's too much for the 3rd line and we got too many guys for the top 6. Go with the a young 3rd line and let them figure it out. Its crazy seeing the same people crying about frost not being on the team are the same people saying Tippett shouldnt. They are the same age and both in the same situation.

- xShoot4WarAmpsx



This qualifies under the category that Tomahawk just posted about 8th grade poking holes. One of the worst teams in the league, if not the worst team has a player that is a luxury and too many guys for the top 6. One of the more comical posts I've read on HB.
Where did Tomahawk say that Tippet shouldn't be on the team?
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Mar 22 @ 2:24 PM ET
He was on Vegas and traded to Anaheim which was on his no trade list.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Ah gotcha. Idk why I though he was dealt back to Florida
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Mar 22 @ 2:25 PM ET
What picks does Florida even have left lol

Also, just a guess but if he doesn’t want to go to Vegas I’m guessing he doesn’t want to come here either.

- hereticpride


He's got a 10-team no trade list he submitted to Ottawa that everybody knew about (it's listed plainly on Capfriendly) but Vegas just forgot about it after they traded for him lol. If it's only 10-teams, I doubt the Flyers are on it. But who knows.
iamscore2day
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Alexandria, VA
Joined: 03.23.2021

Mar 22 @ 2:27 PM ET
This qualifies under the category that Tomahawk just posted about 8th grade poking holes. One of the worst teams in the league, if not the worst team has a player that is a luxury and too many guys for the top 6. One of the more comical posts I've read on HB.
Where did Tomahawk say that Tippet shouldn't be on the team?

- MJL

Getting rid of Konecny? That would be smart. He would love to get away, I am sure. But we do not exactly have a surfeit of fast, stickhandling players with high skills. In Carolina or Florida, he is a 30+ goal scorer a year. Put this idea in the "careful, you might get what you ask for category.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Mar 22 @ 2:29 PM ET
Again, you're talking about this guy scoring 20-goals on the 3rd-line and he hasn't scored a single goal yet. And you're talking about a guy with multiple 20-goals seasons under his belt being a "luxury" to a team that has trouble scoring goals. The logic just doesn't work out.

Yes, Tippett should be in the lineup. Yes, he should be playing as much as possible, as high up in the lineup as possible. But no, that does not mean TK should be the odd man out.

- Tomahawk


I didnt say he would score 20. I said if he did it would be fantastic. 10-15 would be good.

Logic is fine. We struggle to score goals because we are missing big pieces to our team. Couturier is a huge loss offensively. Hayes has missed half the season. Part of the reason we struggle to score goals is BECAUSE Konecny isnt scoring goals. he has a whopping 10 goals which isnt good enough for a guy expected to pot 20-25.

The rest comes down to having rostered an AHL team most of this year.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Mar 22 @ 2:34 PM ET
Apparently Vegas deal is going to be voided. Flyers could take advantage of this if PHI isnt on Dadanov's No trade list. Vegas needs that cap space. Dadanov wouldnt be eligible to play this season which is my understanding but we could get a pick
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

we should 100% take advantage of the situation it's not like dadanov is a slug
hockeylover
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: There's always next year., NT
Joined: 08.03.2006

Mar 22 @ 2:37 PM ET
Hogwash! Allison is a Yandle like fixture in next years lineup. 🤣
- PLindbergh31



Totally disagree. That spot will be served by Moran.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Mar 22 @ 2:40 PM ET

Re: Dadonov

Wow! Just looked it up. What do they do now?

https://www.knightsonice....-trade-clause-per-reports
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