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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 22 @ 6:37 PM ET
Lindblom has no business in the top 6 IMO, and Tippet should be in the top 6 for sure. But no matter how you slice it, this group of forwards is no where good enough. There is no high end talent in this group. My hope is the Flyers get such a player picking high in this draft and maybe that with a player from their system like Foerster they can get closer.
- jd250


So Lindblom, who is an established NHL player has no business in the top 6 but Tippett, who is not an established NHL player should be? Can't make it up.
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Mar 22 @ 6:43 PM ET
Well actually Chuck Fletcher admitted to major things this season: 1. This team does not have the right personnel on the power play, no ability to score from the flank and 2. they lack high-end talent. These statements came from the GM himself, so that is pretty clear what Fletcher will be trying to obtain this off season.

TK is just not good enough. He skates around a lot, but can't finish a play. Farabee is a good complimentary player, but he is not a sniper or a true finisher. Atkinson can finish occasionally but he is not what I would consider a pure sniper either. We'll see what Tippet becomes and some of the kids coming up like Foerster and Brink. But right now I would say this is the number one area Fletcher has to address.

- jd250

And the soft wussyass philly media should’ve immediately asked fletch well if you don’t have the high end talent how you gonna get it being you’re capped out and signed coots risto trade for Ellis and using aggressive retool not gonna move players
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Mar 22 @ 6:45 PM ET
What line is Caufield playing on tonight? Oh wait, I forgot that Chucky thought that the Flyers already had too many scorers on their roster, so he'll be suiting up for the Habs.
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Mar 22 @ 6:51 PM ET
Fletcher” none of us anticipated us being here, we thought we had a good team”


Ummm k. I for one said you’d suck. How can you look at this roster and think it’s good. Even if healthy it’s average at best most likely below average bottom 10 team.

Do they not see the teams they play? Management neglect having these dinosaurs running team
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Mar 22 @ 6:53 PM ET
Hopefully he gets 100 goals and is +35 his first 4 years of that lumber of a deal.
- THE EVIL WITHIN



Nope hopefully he plays like poop stay away from drafting in that 10 range.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Mar 22 @ 6:57 PM ET
Fletcher” none of us anticipated us being here, we thought we had a good team”


Ummm k. I for one said you’d suck. How can you look at this roster and think it’s good. Even if healthy it’s average at best most likely below average bottom 10 team.

Do they not see the teams they play? Management neglect having these dinosaurs running team

- Stayin alive
How can you say this is a bottom 10 team if healthy? Are they a contender if totally healthy? Nope, but they are a playoff bubble team if totally healthy. Thanks!
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Mar 22 @ 6:58 PM ET
So Lindblom, who is an established NHL player has no business in the top 6 but Tippett, who is not an established NHL player should be? Can't make it up.
- MJL

I agree with him.

We know what Oscar HAS done. He’s a nice bottom 6 player that sure can fill in top 6 here and there for a bit. Nice player to have depending on contract of course.

You can substitute any player that is unknown with skill like Tippett to see what they do.

I don’t think he’s saying Tippett definitely is the answer or is even better than Oscar or actually deserve long term to be top 6.
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Mar 22 @ 6:59 PM ET
How can you say this is a bottom 10 team if healthy? Are they a contender if totally healthy? Nope, but they are a playoff bubble team if totally healthy. Thanks!
- Phillywhiteout

If healthy where would they be. Go check standings. Let me know. I’m very curious to who they’d be knocking down the standings
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Mar 22 @ 7:01 PM ET
If healthy where would they be. Go check standings. Let me know. I’m very curious to who they’d be knocking down the standings
- Stayin alive
They'd be right there with the Caps/Broooooooins IMO.
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Mar 22 @ 7:06 PM ET
You just don't get it Scotty. You don't.
- iamscore2day


he/her/she/them is to smart for us rubes
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Mar 22 @ 7:07 PM ET
Fletcher” none of us anticipated us being here, we thought we had a good team”


Ummm k. I for one said you’d suck. How can you look at this roster and think it’s good. Even if healthy it’s average at best most likely below average bottom 10 team.

Do they not see the teams they play? Management neglect having these dinosaurs running team

- Stayin alive


but the rYaB 3lL!s is hUrtZZZ
Don Nachbaur
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.01.2021

Mar 22 @ 7:08 PM ET
I made that statement and it is factually true. Also you should go back and read the statement. The statement was out of the Flyers regular defenseman. That does not include Connauton and Seeler. Out of the 5 regular Flyers defenseman, only Yandle is worse defensively that Ristolainen.

You have a bad habit of getting comments made by me incorrect.

- MJL


Sorry, I will admit that I do not have the time to fully analyze every post. Yours alone in one day would take me more time than I can spare. As for getting things incorrect, the only thing I recall being incorrect about (according to you) was our discussion about Stewart (my comment about him had nothing to do with you btw). I agree with all your other points about the Org and the team except Risto. They were horrible defensively last year, so they got Risto and Ellis in hopes that they would improve. It didn't work out as planned and it's unfortunate.
I am sorry I don't memorize every one of your posts but can you tell me what they should have done to address last seasons defense issues? Who would you have brought in for this year?
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Mar 22 @ 7:08 PM ET
They'd be right there with the Caps/Broooooooins IMO.
- Phillywhiteout

Hahahahaahahaaha

Bruins 83 points
Caps 80 points
poopty philly 51 points

You think if healthy they’d be 15 more wins on season better to make those points up? And that’s just to this point in season with still another quarter of season to go.

I don’t me to be a Richard but if you honestly believe that with all your heart and knowledge there’s no helping you. And I mean no offense at all by that.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Mar 22 @ 7:13 PM ET
Hahahahaahahaaha

Bruins 83 points
Caps 80 points
poopty philly 51 points

You think if healthy they’d be 15 more wins on season better to make those points up? And that’s just to this point in season with still another quarter of season to go.

I don’t me to be a Richard but if you honestly believe that with all your heart and knowledge there’s no helping you. And I mean no offense at all by that.

- Stayin alive
Maybe you need to observe more. The Flyers are 4th in man games lost due to injury. Hayes and Couts played many of the games that they did play in while injured, and were virtually ineffective in those games. They have lost 17 one goal games....not getting blown out most of the time. Ellis changes the whole dynamic with the defense. Got it? Good!!
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 22 @ 7:13 PM ET
Sorry, I will admit that I do not have the time to fully analyze every post. Yours alone in one day would take me more time than I can spare. As for getting things incorrect, the only thing I recall being incorrect about (according to you) was our discussion about Stewart (my comment about him had nothing to do with you btw). I agree with all your other points about the Org and the team except Risto. They were horrible defensively last year, so they got Risto and Ellis in hopes that they would improve. It didn't work out as planned and it's unfortunate.
I am sorry I don't memorize every one of your posts but can you tell me what they should have done to address last seasons defense issues? Who would you have brought in for this year?

- Don Nachbaur


You recently accused me of not criticizing any other defenseman except for Ristolainen. You posted that shortly after I had just made a post criticizing Sanheim for making two errors on the game tying goal in the Montreal game.
So maybe refrain from accusing someone of something if you don't know the facts.
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Mar 22 @ 7:21 PM ET
Hahahahaahahaaha

Bruins 83 points
Caps 80 points
poopty philly 51 points

You think if healthy they’d be 15 more wins on season better to make those points up? And that’s just to this point in season with still another quarter of season to go.

I don’t me to be a Richard but if you honestly believe that with all your heart and knowledge there’s no helping you. And I mean no offense at all by that.

- Stayin alive

I’ll also add this point… look at standings not on our division or conference but the whole league. Look at the teams around us and just above us.

Obviously we are not even remotely close to the really good teams and teams that are still just good like Florida Carolina tb Calgary avs etc look around. They teams around us and just above us most have young elite talent or very high end young talent. Aren’t capped out with aging long term deals. Ottawa buffalo detroit Anaheim devils Vancouver just on and on light years ahead of us and gonna be force in near future. Or at minimum have the chance and good chance for that


We rolling with some old coots cam players like risto tk Oscar etc.
Dahlin
Cozens
Zegras
Hughes
Hughes
Heiskanen
Larkin
Raymond
Seider
Thachuk
Chabot
Stutzle
Petterson
I mean just too many to even list.

Thinking we’re more than bottom 10 at best with this roster is ridiculous actually
Hart
Bee
York
Tippett?
Forester?
O’Brien?
Brink?

We have some chances at maybe some good players
THE EVIL WITHIN
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Mar 22 @ 7:22 PM ET
Grant scored 2 last night. ( I always liked him better than Lame Thompson) just 3 goals behind 7mill JVR. And now another dumped guy on TV Justin Williams
black_francis
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: hockeybuzz superfan, QC
Joined: 01.10.2015

Mar 22 @ 7:26 PM ET
You recently accused me of not criticizing any other defenseman except for Ristolainen. You posted that shortly after I had just made a post criticizing Sanheim for making two errors on the game tying goal in the Montreal game.
So maybe refrain from accusing someone of something if you don't know the facts.

- MJL


You’re avoiding the question, per usual. Who that was available would you have brought in? If you don’t have an answer then you should probably stop flinging sh!t at other posters’ responses
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Mar 22 @ 7:27 PM ET


ngl, he looks kinda spiffy in red.
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Mar 22 @ 7:31 PM ET
Maybe you need to observe more. The Flyers are 4th in man games lost due to injury. Hayes and Couts played many of the games that they did play in while injured, and were virtually ineffective in those games. They have lost 17 one goal games....not getting blown out most of the time. Ellis changes the whole dynamic with the defense. Got it? Good!!
- Phillywhiteout

Ellis ???
Are we talking Ryan Ellis?
Maybe you should turn another game on. He’s a nice decent top pair 1b dman.
He’s not Weber. He’s not Josi. Or Hughes or makar or Hamilton or Carlson or many other.

How many of those 1 goal games you were watching did you notice clearly far superior team taking night off? Turn Carolina tb on tonight. I bet you whatever you want Carolina doesn’t play and look like they when they played us a few weeks ago. If you think because philly lost a bunch 1 goal games means much don’t know what to tell you. Watching most of those games teams played backup goalies against us and played down.

And you think these other teams don’t have injuries? Pacs out stone out kuch out marner out on and on

Our average players being out means little very little
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Mar 22 @ 7:34 PM ET
Ellis ???
Are we talking Ryan Ellis?
Maybe you should turn another game on. He’s a nice decent top pair 1b dman.
He’s not Weber. He’s not Josi. Or Hughes or makar or Hamilton or Carlson or many other.

How many of those 1 goal games you were watching did you notice clearly far superior team taking night off? Turn Carolina tb on tonight. I bet you whatever you want Carolina doesn’t play and look like they when they played us a few weeks ago. If you think because philly lost a bunch 1 goal games means much don’t know what to tell you. Watching most of those games teams played backup goalies against us and played down.

And you think these other teams don’t have injuries? Pacs out stone out kuch out marner out on and on

Our average players being out means little very little

- Stayin alive
Thanks for making my point. Look at how Vegas has been playing since their top players went out. Again, talking about Ellis changing the dynamic of the defense. They looked good in the 3 games he played and he makes Provorov much better. Why do you keep saying OUR when you are obviously a Penwhines fan in disguise?
mikeyo27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2014

Mar 22 @ 7:35 PM ET
Let’s go Comcast Flyers! Thank you for the aggressive retool so far Comcast Chuckie!
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Mar 22 @ 7:39 PM ET
Maybe you need to observe more. The Flyers are 4th in man games lost due to injury. Hayes and Couts played many of the games that they did play in while injured, and were virtually ineffective in those games. They have lost 17 one goal games....not getting blown out most of the time. Ellis changes the whole dynamic with the defense. Got it? Good!!
- Phillywhiteout

Observe Raymond/seider tonight/Larkin tonight. Then think how our injured players would make this miracle earth shattering difference.
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Mar 22 @ 7:41 PM ET
Observe Raymond/seider tonight/Larkin tonight. Then think how our injured players would make this miracle earth shattering difference.
- Stayin alive

Not to mention bertuzzi Zambia hronek fabbri etc
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Mar 22 @ 7:41 PM ET
Not to mention bertuzzi Zambia hronek fabbri etc
- Stayin alive

Not to mention they have a real gm
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