MJL
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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I don't have to share anything, everything is there for you to read if you actually cared to. Whether you know it or not, you are in the complete minority in terms of your view of Risto compared to the rest of the hockey community. - jd250
Speaking of embarrassing.
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xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Hamilton, ON Joined: 06.25.2010
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https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/flyers
So as things stand today flyers with little over 8 million in cap space for next season. With 13 players signed. If I am reading that correctly. - hello it's me 2050
Flyers have pretty much a full roster.
Tippett and Frost are RFA. Wouldnt really expect any raise for them.
Need 2 4th line wingers
3rd pair RD
Backup G
Replacement for Giroux.
JVR and Konecny likely on their way out 7mill+5.5mill.
Cap space shouldnt be an issue.
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corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT Joined: 12.09.2006
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A cap strapped league bottom feeder with inept management. Exactly where you want to be. - PLindbergh31
You saw his plan as well!! |
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jd250
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Joined: 01.12.2018
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Part of doing that basic research is knowing and understanding what sample size means. - MJL
The point is I challenge anyone to show me that Sanheim's and Risto's metrics are really that different. I just quickly ran by the last 3 games which I know is not a good sample size to illustrates a point. |
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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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If you truly believe what you say about Risto, then everyone else who actually has a job in the NHL is completely wrong and really have no idea how to evaluate, develop and coach players. Because apparently, only some people on this forum and the entire free analytics community think Risto is a bad player and a loser. - jd250
You have no self awareness. Now you're trying to float this fantasy fallacy that the hockey community thinks differently of Ristolainen.
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jd250
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Joined: 01.12.2018
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Flyers have pretty much a full roster.
Tippett and Frost are RFA. Wouldnt really expect any raise for them.
Need 2 4th line wingers
3rd pair RD
Backup G
Replacement for Giroux.
JVR and Konecny likely on their way out 7mill+5.5mill.
Cap space shouldnt be an issue. - xShoot4WarAmpsx
I think the Flyers also need 1 more top 6 winger with high end talent.
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jd250
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Joined: 01.12.2018
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You have no self awareness. Now you're trying to float this fantasy fallacy that the hockey community thinks differently of Ristolainen. - MJL
They do! The only fantasy here is people like yourself who just don't want to look at things objectively. |
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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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Flyers have pretty much a full roster.
Tippett and Frost are RFA. Wouldnt really expect any raise for them.
Need 2 4th line wingers
3rd pair RD
Backup G
Replacement for Giroux.
JVR and Konecny likely on their way out 7mill+5.5mill.
Cap space shouldnt be an issue. - xShoot4WarAmpsx
So you think that the Flyers will not have to retain salary or take any salaries back in a potential trade of JVR or Konecny?
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If it doesn't turn around significantly next season Fletcher will be fired, so who are you looking at as the next GM of this team? - jd250
Is this a trick question?
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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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They do! The only fantasy here is people like yourself who just don't want to look at things objectively. - jd250
Okay, give me one outside non Flyer legitimate source who speaks differently of Ristolainen. |
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If you truly believe what you say about Risto, then everyone else who actually has a job in the NHL is completely wrong and really have no idea how to evaluate, develop and coach players. Because apparently, only some people on this forum and the entire free analytics community think Risto is a bad player and a loser. - jd250
Are you aware at all in anyway how RR is viewed around the league? Schit didn't dinosaur Brian Burke even say he was bad? Someone posted a link few weeks back.
I believe he is a bottom pairing dman who can step once in a while into a 2nd pair role. He has value as bottom pair guy making say 3 million per. He does not have value at 5.1 playing over 20 minutes a night. |
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ClaudeFather
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Location: west haven, CT Joined: 08.14.2015
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Yes, I wanted the Flyers to make a deal for Newhook or Lundell, because these players have the potential to be top centers for years to come. I wanted multiple teams bidding, I wanted G to extend with the teams and I wanted the Flyers to throw in other players to make the deal happen, for example one proposal was to trade both G and Risto to Colorado for Newhook. I never, ever posted that I expected the Flyers to get either player for just G as a rental. Its just more fraudulent banter from you creating false narratives about other posters. How small and insignificant you are ... - jd250
Please stop posting |
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ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: west haven, CT Joined: 08.14.2015
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The point is I challenge anyone to show me that Sanheim's and Risto's metrics are really that different. I just quickly ran by the last 3 games which I know is not a good sample size to illustrates a point. - jd250
So go back and do your homework, why in the world would you go and look at 3 games knowing it’s not a good sample size? |
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xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Hamilton, ON Joined: 06.25.2010
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If this were true, then how do you account for Sanheim having terrific numbers while being on the same pair w/ Risto?
How about Dahlin having good numbers despite playing behind the same sad sack Buffalo teams? - Tomahawk
Eye test shows Sanheim is not doing as well as the "numbers" suggest. Many times Sanheim is the culprit of a turnover especially when a play is up close and outmuscles him.
Both Sanheim and Ristolainen have shown improvements over the last couple weeks
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Flyers have pretty much a full roster.
Tippett and Frost are RFA. Wouldnt really expect any raise for them.
Need 2 4th line wingers
3rd pair RD
Backup G
Replacement for Giroux.
JVR and Konecny likely on their way out 7mill+5.5mill.
Cap space shouldnt be an issue. - xShoot4WarAmpsx
The flyers love fans like you.
How is the cap not an issue when you need to bring in top end talent?
Frost and Tippet will get a raise even if small as isn't that part of the arbitration/qualifying them process?
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mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers |
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Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ Joined: 02.28.2009
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Flyers have pretty much a full roster.
Tippett and Frost are RFA. Wouldnt really expect any raise for them.
Need 2 4th line wingers
3rd pair RD
Backup G
Replacement for Giroux.
JVR and Konecny likely on their way out 7mill+5.5mill.
Cap space shouldnt be an issue. - xShoot4WarAmpsx
Could be but shouldn't be. There are some significant holes that need to be filled.
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black_francis
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: hockeybuzz superfan, QC Joined: 01.10.2015
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So you are agreeing with someone by telling them they are wrong and that you are right.
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it's the MJL special!
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it's the MJL special! - black_francis
It's about being righter.
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corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT Joined: 12.09.2006
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The point is I challenge anyone to show me that Sanheim's and Risto's metrics are really that different. I just quickly ran by the last 3 games which I know is not a good sample size to illustrates a point. - jd250
rr -season
xGF xGA E+/-
42.5 46.4 -3.9
Career
383.5 457.0 -73.6
ts - season
50.9 48.1 2.8
career
229.4 214.2 15.2
larger sample size proves that the sample you provided is crap
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xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Hamilton, ON Joined: 06.25.2010
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So you think that the Flyers will not have to retain salary or take any salaries back in a potential trade of JVR or Konecny? - MJL
JVR maybe. Konecny no.
Doesnt matter. What do you think the Flyers are spending to replace these guys?
Frost and Tippet probably 850k
Two 4th line players and a RHD at 750k
Backup G 2 mill
Thats 5.95 mill/8 = 2mill approx space left over
Konecny is a young player signed at a reasonable price. No reason to to take cap or Contract back unless he's a piece of a bigger add.
JVR you probably need to retain 3 mill. Thats still 4 mill of free space + 5.5 mill from Konecny.
That would leave us with approx 11 mill of space to work with assuming we didnt package for a top line player
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mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers |
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Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ Joined: 02.28.2009
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Eye test shows Sanheim is not doing as well as the "numbers" suggest. Many times Sanheim is the culprit of a turnover especially when a play is up close and outmuscles him.
Both Sanheim and Ristolainen have shown improvements over the last couple weeks - xShoot4WarAmpsx
Sanheim is quite the conundrum because he overperforms based on what he's paid whilst simultaneously underperforms based on his known skill level.
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Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: love is love Joined: 06.29.2006
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... I read all the articles and reports about the potential trading of G and NOT one of them stated Florida was the only team involved, not a single one! - jd250
Obviously we never heard/read anything official. Anything I read/heard talked about Florida or Colorado as being the likely destination, with the return being basically what did happen.
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Obviously we never heard/read anything official. Anything I read/heard talked about Florida or Colorado as being the likely destination, with the return being basically what did happen. - Scoob
fcs
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StepfordSam
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Philadelphia, PA Joined: 02.06.2017
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JVR maybe. Konecny no.
Doesnt matter. What do you think the Flyers are spending to replace these guys?
Frost and Tippet probably 850k
Two 4th line players and a RHD at 750k
Backup G 2 mill
Thats 5.95 mill/8 = 2mill approx space left over
Konecny is a young player signed at a reasonable price. No reason to to take cap or Contract back unless he's a piece of a bigger add.
JVR you probably need to retain 3 mill. Thats still 4 mill of free space + 5.5 mill from Konecny.
That would leave us with approx 11 mill of space to work with assuming we didnt package for a top line player - xShoot4WarAmpsx
Fletcher is going to have to bend over to unload JVR on another team. Eating salary and attaching picks is the start. He will probably do something dumb like buy him out.
Also why trade Konecny? Who are you replacing him with at that cap hit?
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JVR maybe. Konecny no.
Doesnt matter. What do you think the Flyers are spending to replace these guys?
Frost and Tippet probably 850k
Two 4th line players and a RHD at 750k
Backup G 2 mill
Thats 5.95 mill/8 = 2mill approx space left over
Konecny is a young player signed at a reasonable price. No reason to to take cap or Contract back unless he's a piece of a bigger add.
JVR you probably need to retain 3 mill. Thats still 4 mill of free space + 5.5 mill from Konecny.
That would leave us with approx 11 mill of space to work with assuming we didnt package for a top line player - xShoot4WarAmpsx
that wont likely happen. Wade and Tanner who have a good shot to be on the roster are over 900k and will likely get a small raise to qualify them; unless they sign for less. Any of the potential college guys will also be over 900k.
If TK is traded they are getting player back. Or do you think he is traded for picks?
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