There's a better chance Price gets hurt and retires


I'd be careful about retaining money on Price, it's a large number with lots of term, handcuff yourself doing that
- OB

agreed, they shouldn't be retaining more than 3 or 4M, which gives a bit of room to the team acquiring him... not saying the odds of that happening are high but it could, he's basically one of the only goalies that would be available that can play at the same level as a Vasilevskiy

WAY to early in his contract to think of buyout and/or buy out. It would eat up too much cap and the buyout would drag on for 8 years.

Hope that he gets hurt, retires or LTIR. Only way it can help the Habs. Him playing, will NOT help us in any way where we are right now with the new direction.
- Snots33_77

I agree

Because of the maximum 3 contracts and 15% of the cap in retention, Price would be to risky

Sure.... but they have to give a reason where it violates something
- OB

Nah actually they can just say it's cap circumvention when they feel like it

agreed, they shouldn't be retaining more than 3 or 4M, which gives a bit of room to the team acquiring him... not saying the odds of that happening are high but it could, he's basically one of the only goalies that would be available that can play at the same level as a Vasilevskiy
- Pat1993

4 million is roughly 6-7% of the cap? Kinda risky, especially if it's for 4 years

WAY to early in his contract to think of buyout and/or buy out. It would eat up too much cap and the buyout would drag on for 8 years.

Hope that he gets hurt, retires or LTIR. Only way it can help the Habs. Him playing, will NOT help us in any way where we are right now with the new direction.
- Snots33_77

meh, I disagree, if he plays and he's healthy (I know that's a big IF lol) he can make any team competitive. the habs already have a bunch of young players coming up, wouldn't be a complete catastrophe to have them develop in a competitive/winning environment.

4 million is roughly 7-8% of the cap? Kinda risky, especially if it's for 4 years
- OB

yeah, it's a lot isn't it lol... (frank)ing salary cap, if only it would've went up a bit.

meh, I disagree, if he plays and he's healthy (I know that's a big IF lol) he can make any team competitive. the habs already have a bunch of young players coming up, wouldn't be a complete catastrophe to have them develop in a competitive/winning environment.
- Pat1993

I agree to a certain extent. I just think it's in the Habs best interest NOT to be too competitive in year 1.5 of a reset/rebuild/restructure. They need to suck next year and take their time.

Look at their roster right now. Not a good idea to finish 8th and keep the same cycle going under the new management.

Just my $0.02

Nah actually they can just say it's cap circumvention when they feel like it
- Fredo

Habs would want to know what makes this transaction any different than the 2 dead contracts they allowed to move on the same day

I agree to a certain extent. I just think it's in the Habs best interest NOT to be too competitive in year 1.5 of a reset/rebuild/restructure. They need to suck next year and take their time.

Look at their roster right now. Not a good idea to finish 8th and keep the same cycle going under the new management.

Just my $0.02
- Snots33_77

yeah I'm confident that the new management team would deal with that situation differently, if Price does come back and plays well. I'm not 100% sure they're crossing their fingers that he stays hurt, they might be actually hoping he does come back.

Habs would want to know what makes this transaction any different than the 2 dead contracts they allowed to move on the same day
- OB

What made the Kovalchuk contract different than all the other front loaded contracts? At one point they draw a line in the sand

yeah I'm confident that the new management team would deal with that situation differently, if Price does come back and plays well. I'm not 100% sure they're crossing their fingers that he stays hurt, they might be actually hoping he does come back.
- Pat1993

Well I don't think they wish him any ill-will, and for the record, neither do I. I'm sure they'd like him to come back and play well for trade purposes as I don't believe his salary is aligned with their expectations or cap plan. The way MB has built this team seems to contradict everything that Hughes and Gorton stand for business-wise.

New management seems to want to build from a big, fast mobile defense with a strong centre-line first. Not build from the crease out like the Habs from 1907-2021.

Well I don't think they wish him any ill-will, and for the record, neither do I. I'm sure they'd like him to come back and play well for trade purposes as I don't believe his salary is aligned with their expectations or cap plan. The way MB has built this team seems to contradict everything that Hughes and Gorton stand for business-wise.

New management seems to want to build from a big, fast mobile defense with a strong centre-line first. Not build from the crease out like the Habs from 1907-2021.
- Snots33_77

but what happens if he plays well but they aren't able to move him? they'd have to deal with that context one way or another... one thing is for sure is that they most likely wouldn't be dishing out contracts to veteran players across the league to be in "win now" mode lol

but what happens if he plays well but they aren't able to move him? they'd have to deal with that context one way or another... one thing is for sure is that they most likely wouldn't be dishing out contracts to veteran players across the league to be in "win now" mode lol
- Pat1993

Worst case scenario in the immediate future for sure. It's not an ideal situation, to say the least.

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- BashCH

I mean, if your options are this or Poilievre I’d take this thanks. Even if fiscally I should vote conservative, that man is rotten and I’d never vote for him.

Worst case scenario in the immediate future for sure. It's not an ideal situation, to say the least.
- Snots33_77

I dunno, I think there are some positives around that... is it better to be developing young defensemen with a guy like Montembeault in net?

I mean, if your options are this or Poilievre I’d take this thanks. Even if fiscally I should vote conservative, that man is rotten and I’d never vote for him.
- Habsolute009

But i like pepper.......







*runs*

I dunno, I think there are some positives around that... is it better to be developing young defensemen with a guy like Montembeault in net?
- Pat1993

I honestly don't know what the ideal situation is surrounding Price. Would be a WAY easier discussion if he wasn't making $10.5 million a season. I wouldn't entertain moving him if his cap hit was remotely reasonable. That contract (frank)s the entire organization and their ability to progress into the modern era.

But i like pepper.......







*runs*
- Snots33_77

well played.

I honestly don't know what the ideal situation is surrounding Price. Would be a WAY easier discussion if he wasn't making $10.5 million a season. I wouldn't entertain moving him if his cap hit was remotely reasonable. That contract (frank)s the entire organization and their ability to progress into the modern era.
- Snots33_77

agreed on that contract, it's definitely an anchor considering the god damn salary cap isn't going up... oh well, we'll see where this goes soon enough. at least the team is in better hands now, and moves have already been made in the right direction.

well played.
- Habsolute009

agreed on that contract, it's definitely an anchor considering the god damn salary cap isn't going up... oh well, we'll see where this goes soon enough. at least the team is in better hands now, and moves have already been made in the right direction.
- Pat1993

Absolutely, and if the cap would have increased as it was year over year prior......this contract, although bad, isn't AS bad as it is against a flat cap.

The bad contract was handed out with the expectation of a rising cap. When it didn't, the contract turned into a absolutely terrible contract.

Great player, horrible contract, horrible timing with the cap being flattened.

What made the Kovalchuk contract different than all the other front loaded contracts? At one point they draw a line in the sand
- Fredo

So you're saying Arizona is the problem? They went to the well too often?

Absolutely, and if the cap would have increased as it was year over year prior......this contract, although bad, isn't AS bad as it is against a flat cap.

The bad contract was handed out with the expectation of a rising cap. When it didn't, the contract turned into a absolutely terrible contract.

Great player, horrible contract, horrible timing with the cap being flattened.
- Snots33_77

yup, and the horrible health/injury history doesn't help either.

So you're saying Arizona is the problem? They went to the well too often?
- OB

Good thing they're not called the Arizona Camels then......




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